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CC1 06-06-2008 10:48 AM

Confession
 
Have you ever violated your own principles on this or another forum and felt quilty about it even though you may have not violated a specific rule?

I have always had this thing about the forum being honest discourse. I personally find the idea of creating a new screen name and pretending to be a new poster, someone who you are not, to be just lying.

Now I am not confessing to having done that because to the best of my recollection (as a famous ex and now dead President once said) I have never done that.

However along the lines of having honest discourse I do have one moment of shame.

Some time ago, I believe it was on NFCF, things had gotten pretty boring for a few days. An ultra con elder highly respected PM'd me and suggested we get a good fight going. I was a little reluctant but on a whim went for it.

He and I went at it with no holds barred. It was really funny because we got as close to the line in insults, etc that you could get without getting banned. All the while we were laughing our heads off behiind the scenes in PM's.

The guilt set in when several of my friends and even posters who did not know me well were offended by the other man's remarks and strongly took to my defense both on the thread with posts and in private PM's.

I felt terrible, like a liar and a total heel. I probably should have confessed but I didn't as I didn't want my confession to affect the other poster.

I guess the bottom line is that messing with the truth, even when it is a joke, affects other people and could damage your credibility.

AmazingGrace 06-06-2008 10:52 AM

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Yes I have a huge issue with it!

My husband has a screen name... he rarely gets on. One time there was a poll that I felt strongly about and so I signed in on his too and voted. Then felt like dirt for a week because even though it was "just a forum" these folk are my friends and I had lied! Yes it is a big deal to me and I will say that altho I thought the poster who had his alter exposed llast night was someone else. I never liked that alter nic because of the fact it was lying... and I am that way with any alter nic... because I lose an amount of trust with that person because I feel they are lying!

Jack Shephard 06-06-2008 10:55 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AmazingGrace (Post 486878)
Yes I have a huge issue with it!

My husband has a screen name... he rarely gets on. One time there was a poll that I felt strongly about and so I signed in on his too and voted. Then felt like dirt for a week because even though it was "just a forum" these folk are my friends and I had lied! Yes it is a big deal to me and I will say that altho I thought the poster who had his alter exposed llast night was someone else. I never liked that alter nic because of the fact it was lying... and I am that way with any alter nic... because I lose an amount of trust with that person because I feel they are lying!

Sinner.

AmazingGrace 06-06-2008 10:58 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JTULLOCK (Post 486888)
Sinner.

Dont make it worse Brat!!!!!!!!!!:reaction:blah:blah

StillStanding 06-06-2008 11:01 AM

Re: Confession
 
Jimmy Yohe had knock-down drag-out fights with himself on FCF! :D

CC1 06-06-2008 11:02 AM

Re: Confession
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pianoman (Post 486904)
Jimmy Yohe had knock-down drag-out fights with himself on FCF! :D

Yup. I think that was part of his start up plan to make it interesting and garner interest.

StillStanding 06-06-2008 11:04 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 486906)
Yup. I think that was part of his start up plan to make it interesting and garner interest.

Well then, think of yourself as making the forum a little more interesting that day! That's a good thing! :)

dizzyde 06-06-2008 11:08 AM

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Well, I just don't have the creativity or the time. I don't really have the time that I put into this screen-name.

And also, one of the reasons I enjoy this forum is for the friendships I have formed, hiding behind another name kind of defeats that purpose.

The main thing that I have guilt about regarding this forum is the time that it sucks, I am trying to work on that!!

Rico 06-06-2008 11:10 AM

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It's called integrity, CC1.

I get upset when I find out I have been posting to a figment of someone's imagination, or a screen name someone made up just to play games with people. Yes, I have had other screen names in the past myself. Churchlady was one of them. However, I never hid the fact that it was actually me behind any screen name I've used. Don't know that I could hide it for very long even if I wanted to.

HeavenlyOne 06-06-2008 11:18 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pianoman (Post 486904)
Jimmy Yohe had knock-down drag-out fights with himself on FCF! :D

I remember when he banned himself......hahaha!

Tawanda 06-06-2008 11:19 AM

Re: Confession
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 486874)
A thread prompted me to create this thread. Have you ever violated your own principles on this or another forum and felt quilty about it even though you may have not violated a specific rule?

Why dont you sit down and shut up short boy.

Rico 06-06-2008 11:20 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne (Post 486923)
I remember when he banned himself......hahaha!

I've heard about when that happened, but don't remember it. Brother Flemming told me JY asked him to ban one of his own screen names for going too far.

AmazingGrace 06-06-2008 11:28 AM

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I was an admin on Bro Rutledges pal talk room years ago and I banned myself there. It was an accident but it was the most hysterical thing!

1Corinth2v4 06-06-2008 11:39 AM

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I confess I have embezzled 36 million dollars and transfered the money to offshore accounts.


:tissue

CC1 06-06-2008 11:46 AM

Re: Confession
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1Corinth2v4 (Post 486968)
I confess I have embezzled 36 million dollars and transfered the money to offshore accounts.


:tissue

You will be forgiven if you split the loot equally among your AFF brothers and sisters!:bliss

DividedThigh 06-06-2008 11:47 AM

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to jail with him and all his democrat cronies, lol,dt

DividedThigh 06-06-2008 11:47 AM

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after i take the evidence for safe keeping of course, lol

Rico 06-06-2008 11:49 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1Corinth2v4 (Post 486968)
I confess I have embezzled 36 million dollars and transfered the money to offshore accounts.


:tissue

Share the wealth or I am turning you in!!! :D I not greedy, I promise.

HeavenlyOne 06-06-2008 11:50 AM

Re: Confession
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AmazingGrace (Post 486947)
I was an admin on Bro Rutledges pal talk room years ago and I banned myself there. It was an accident but it was the most hysterical thing!

What was your username there?

James Griffin 06-06-2008 12:02 PM

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I confess that...

Wait a mintute the statute of limitations has not run on that one yet.

Er nevermind.

(backing out of thread)

:aaa

1Corinth2v4 06-06-2008 12:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by James Griffin (Post 486998)
I confess that...

Wait a mintute the statute of limitations has not run on that one yet.

Er nevermind.

(backing out of thread)

:aaa

What can be worse than mine? CHICKEN!

James Griffin 06-06-2008 12:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1Corinth2v4 (Post 487002)
What can be worse than mine? CHICKEN!

See that's where legal training comes in.

Statute of limitations runs.

No charges have been filed.

You get away with it.

The Mrs 06-06-2008 12:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by James Griffin (Post 487009)
See that's where legal training comes in.

Statute of limitations runs.

No charges have been filed.

You get away with it.

Now see? Any good student of the law would have caught that.

:lol

1Corinth2v4 06-06-2008 12:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by James Griffin (Post 487009)
See that's where legal training comes in.

Statute of limitations runs.

No charges have been filed.

You get away with it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Mrs (Post 487010)
Now see? Any good student of the law would have caught that.

:lol




All posted here is hearsay, so you're safe! :D

James Griffin 06-06-2008 12:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1Corinth2v4 (Post 487011)
All posted here is heresay, so you're safe! :D


Hearsay has several exceptions, the one to be used here would be "statement against penal interests"

Part of the reason there are so few unsolved "perfect" crimes is because so few have the resolve to keep their mouth shut about it. Lost track of the number of cases "solved" by scorned girlfriends etc. LOL

Baron1710 06-06-2008 12:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by James Griffin (Post 487013)
Hearsay has several exceptions, the one to be used here would be "statement against penal interests"

Part of the reason there are so few unsolved "perfect" crimes is because so few have the resolve to keep their mouth shut about it. Lost track of the number of cases "solved" by scorned girlfriends etc. LOL

I believe the exceptions have now swallowed the rule.

Rico 06-06-2008 12:19 PM

Re: Confession
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by James Griffin (Post 486998)
I confess that...

Wait a mintute the statute of limitations has not run on that one yet.

Er nevermind.

(backing out of thread)

:aaa

Brother, I see a long and lengthy investigation in your future. Ha! Thus saith the good lookin fat guy! :D

James Griffin 06-06-2008 12:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Baron1710 (Post 487014)
I believe the exceptions have now swallowed the rule.

When doing defense work there were a few things I kept out.

But yes a GOOD attorney knows how to get the "information" in anyway without breaking the rules.

LOL

Baron1710 06-06-2008 12:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by James Griffin (Post 487021)
When doing defense work there were a few things I kept out.

But yes a GOOD attorney knows how to get the "information" in anyway without breaking the rules.

LOL

but your honor its not being given to prove the truth of the matter asserted...

1Corinth2v4 06-06-2008 12:28 PM

Re: Confession
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by James Griffin (Post 487013)
Hearsay has several exceptions, the one to be used here would be "statement against penal interests"

Part of the reason there are so few unsolved "perfect" crimes is because so few have the resolve to keep their mouth shut about it. Lost track of the number of cases "solved" by scorned girlfriends etc. LOL

Ah......Williamson v. United States....eh?

James Griffin 06-06-2008 12:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rico (Post 487015)
Brother, I see a long and lengthy investigation in your future. Ha! Thus saith the good lookin fat guy! :D

Thank you. Oh, you meant the OTHER good lookin fat guy....

The Mrs 06-06-2008 12:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1Corinth2v4 (Post 487026)
Ah......Williamson v. United States....eh?

Ah......Yahoo! Search.....eh?

Baron1710 06-06-2008 12:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The Mrs (Post 487030)
Ah......Yahoo! Search.....eh?

No. Google. lol

1Corinth2v4 06-06-2008 12:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The Mrs (Post 487030)
Ah......Yahoo! Search.....eh?

I'm sure it's there if you search, it was a fiasco!

ForeverBlessed 06-06-2008 12:54 PM

Re: Confession
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rico (Post 486927)
I've heard about when that happened, but don't remember it. Brother Flemming told me JY asked him to ban one of his own screen names for going too far.

outoftheblue?? I don't remember... something with blue in it I think...slept a lot since then. I was sitting here trying to remember the screen name he used to argue with himself.

He most certainly did argue/debated himself and then banned himself. His name had gotten out of line and it was the honorable thing to do ya know.. lol He always kept webby and I informed as to what he was doing. He was an interesting fella.

The Mrs 06-06-2008 12:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1Corinth2v4 (Post 487033)
I'm sure it's there if you search, it was a fiasco!

Yeah...I'm sure you remember it well.

btw...just what were you doing in 1994? Just graduating from High School???

:laffatu

MissBrattified 06-06-2008 01:00 PM

Re: Confession
 
I created an alternate username once on FCF, but I think I only posted to it once or twice. It was too much work. :D I think I did it to express a view that I felt I couldn't under the username I had, since several people knew my real identity. Can't say for sure, though--it's been too long.

I think the advantage is that if your "real" identity is known behind a certain username, you can gain back your anonymity by creating a second username.

Sometimes folks do it just to have fun. But overall, for the sake of conversation, it's a lot easier if there's just one of each person. Considering the fact that most of us don't use our RL names, I don't consider it necessarily dishonest, except when used as a means to manipulate the conversation in one's favor.

I do remember an issue with a person called Xerf...I thought THAT was a heinous use of internet anonymity and a gross underestimation of the virtual relationships that are formed, even among anonymous users.

I also think that when a person is banned for bad behavior, it is immature to keep popping back up under another name, like a child that can't sit in the corner for 10 minutes.

rrford 06-06-2008 01:20 PM

Re: Confession
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 486874)
Have you ever violated your own principles on this or another forum and felt quilty about it even though you may have not violated a specific rule?

I have always had this thing about the forum being honest discourse. I personally find the idea of creating a new screen name and pretending to be a new poster, someone who you are not, to be just lying.

Now I am not confessing to having done that because to the best of my recollection (as a famous ex and now dead President once said) I have never done that.

However along the lines of having honest discourse I do have one moment of shame.

Some time ago, I believe it was on NFCF, things had gotten pretty boring for a few days. An ultra con elder highly respected PM'd me and suggested we get a good fight going. I was a little reluctant but on a whim went for it.

He and I went at it with no holds barred. It was really funny because we got as close to the line in insults, etc that you could get without getting banned. All the while we were laughing our heads off behiind the scenes in PM's.

The guilt set in when several of my friends and even posters who did not know me well were offended by the other man's remarks and strongly took to my defense both on the thread with posts and in private PM's.

I felt terrible, like a liar and a total heel. I probably should have confessed but I didn't as I didn't want my confession to affect the other poster.

I guess the bottom line is that messing with the truth, even when it is a joke, affects other people and could damage your credibility.


Hey, it was fun. And to add insult to injury you told a lie in the above post. Will you never learn? :gaga

The Mrs 06-06-2008 01:21 PM

Re: Confession
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rrford (Post 487053)
Hey, it was fun. And to add insult to injury you told a lie in the above post. Will you never learn? :gaga

Was it the 'elder' part??? :gaga

rrford 06-06-2008 01:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The Mrs (Post 487054)
Was it the 'elder' part??? :gaga

Hey!!! How did I miss that. He actually told 2 lies. Figures.


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