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Consapostolic1 06-06-2008 02:45 PM

Have You Been to WWPF Lately?
 
Has anyone visited the worldwide pentecostal fellowship website recently? They've updated the layout which looks pretty cool and they now have the photos from Stronger Together posted. Their is also a link to the information regarding PEAK(the national WWPF youth conference), which will be preached by Bro. Jason Calhoun and Evg. Cody Marks?

1Corinth2v4 06-09-2008 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Consapostolic1 (Post 487214)
Has anyone visited the worldwide pentecostal fellowship website recently? They've updated the layout which looks pretty cool and they now have the photos from Stronger Together posted. Their is also a link to the information regarding PEAK(the national WWPF youth conference), which will be preached by Bro. Jason Calhoun and Evg. Cody Marks?

No, let me take a peek.

CC1 06-09-2008 06:34 PM

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ContipatedApostolic,

Thanks for the update. I will check it out!

Consapostolic1 06-11-2008 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 490112)
ContipatedApostolic,

Thanks for the update. I will check it out!

hehehe...uhmmm No, not funny

StillStanding 06-11-2008 02:43 PM

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Is the WWPF still around? :tic

Baron1710 06-11-2008 02:56 PM

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Is it too much to ask to have them put up a video or two from that Branson meeting?

CC1 06-11-2008 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Baron1710 (Post 492319)
Is it too much to ask to have them put up a video or two from that Branson meeting?

ROFL!!!! Don't you know that most of those folks probably think a video camera pointed at you steals your soul????!!!!! (just like the natives in Africa).

Baron1710 06-11-2008 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 492515)
ROFL!!!! Don't you know that most of those folks probably think a video camera pointed at you steals your soul????!!!!! (just like the natives in Africa).

This picture is on their website from the Branson meeting, not sure what’s going on but my guess is they are about to get booted for those red dresses.

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/l...mage_00119.jpg

chosenbyone 06-11-2008 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Baron1710 (Post 492520)
This picture is on their website from the Branson meeting, not sure what’s going on but my guess is they are about to get booted for those red dresses.

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/l...mage_00119.jpg

:toofunny

Happy looking group! :TulsaNO:

CC1 06-11-2008 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Baron1710 (Post 492520)
This picture is on their website from the Branson meeting, not sure what’s going on but my guess is they are about to get booted for those red dresses.

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/l...mage_00119.jpg

LOL!!!! I wonder if the audio that went with them standing went something like "We would like any women wearing that jezebel color of red to please stand up and wait to be escorted from he building!"

Brother Price 06-12-2008 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Baron1710 (Post 492520)
This picture is on their website from the Branson meeting, not sure what’s going on but my guess is they are about to get booted for those red dresses.

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/l...mage_00119.jpg

Where are the smiles??? Anyone smiling??? Anybody??? Hello?

Pennycostul 06-12-2008 06:37 AM

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Honestly I dont think I would want that pic on my front page of pics as they dont look happy at all. In fact, No one in that pic has a very good look on there face.

Some friends of mine went and they are great people.The are thinking about pulling from the UPC and joining WWPF They are smilin people so maybe they should have been placed on the site LOL:happydance.

MissBrattified 06-12-2008 06:45 AM

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1. There's nothing wrong with a serious moment. LOL!!! Ya'll are nitpicking, and I think you know it.

2. There are quite a few pictures on that site with smiles and laughter.

Let's not get carried away trying to find fault. It isn't anymore attractive on a liberal than on a conservative.

Obviously those are candid photos. My goodness, here awhile back our drama dept. did a little presentation, and in every photo, I have some kind of scrunched up, weird facial expression (different in every one, but none of them pleasant). I'm not sure how that happened, but the photographer just happened to catch me at some "intense" moments.

Doesn't mean I'm not a happy person! :) Or that I never look pleasant for that matter. Kind of like getting caught on film shoveling in a mouthful of food doesn't mean you're a glutton.

Baron1710 06-12-2008 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by MissBrattified (Post 492996)
1. There's nothing wrong with a serious moment. LOL!!! Ya'll are nitpicking, and I think you know it.

2. There are quite a few pictures on that site with smiles and laughter.

Let's not get carried away trying to find fault. It isn't anymore attractive on a liberal than on a conservative.

Obviously those are candid photos. My goodness, here awhile back our drama dept. did a little presentation, and in every photo, I have some kind of scrunched up, weird facial expression (different in every one, but none of them pleasant). I'm not sure how that happened, but the photographer just happened to catch me at some "intense" moments.

Doesn't mean I'm not a happy person! :) Or that I never look pleasant for that matter. Kind of like getting caught on film shoveling in a mouthful of food doesn't mean you're a glutton.


I did notice the unhappy faces but what struck me was the only two ladies standing were in red. I just couldn't resist, it was too perfect. You see what happens when you leave the UPC? You begin to let those standards go. They haven’t been gone no time and already dressing like harlots. :tic

MissBrattified 06-12-2008 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Baron1710 (Post 493000)
I did notice the unhappy faces but what struck me was the only two ladies standing were in red. I just couldn't resist, it was too perfect. You see what happens when you leave the UPC? You begin to let those standards go. They haven’t been gone no time and already dressing like harlots. :tic



LOL!!! Hey, I understand...my sisters and my Dad were singing at an AMF event(or church) years ago, and my Dad couldn't understand why no one was responding to the music. The whole crowd was sitting like statues, no response.

My Dad had just bought my older sister (it was PJ, CC1) a beautiful red dress, which she was wearing on the platform. So, inny waze...my Dad turns around to the pastor and (quietly) asks what the problem is, to which the pastor replied, "We believe only whores wear red."

My Dad was REALLY mad about that...LOL!!!!!

But...I don't think the red dress thing was ever in the UPC...was it? I thought that was a purely AMF/ultra-con thing.

Baron1710 06-12-2008 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by MissBrattified (Post 493001)
LOL!!! Hey, I understand...my sisters and my Dad were singing at an AMF event(or church) years ago, and my Dad couldn't understand why no one was responding to the music. The whole crowd was sitting like statues, no response.

My Dad had just bought my older sister (it was PJ, CC1) a beautiful red dress, which she was wearing on the platform. So, inny waze...my Dad turns around to the pastor and (quietly) asks what the problem is, to which the pastor replied, "We believe only whores wear red."

My Dad was REALLY mad about that...LOL!!!!!

But...I don't think the red dress thing was ever in the UPC...was it? I thought that was a purely AMF/ultra-con thing.

It was there at some point because my parents were aware of it and the UPC was all they knew, (other than my mom's family is AG). I was shocked the first time I heard it. piggy backing on another thread I will text her and ask her, but she is on the West Coast so it may be awhile before she responds.

CC1 06-12-2008 07:25 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MissBrattified (Post 492996)
1. There's nothing wrong with a serious moment. LOL!!! Ya'll are nitpicking, and I think you know it.

2. There are quite a few pictures on that site with smiles and laughter.

Let's not get carried away trying to find fault. It isn't anymore attractive on a liberal than on a conservative.

Obviously those are candid photos. My goodness, here awhile back our drama dept. did a little presentation, and in every photo, I have some kind of scrunched up, weird facial expression (different in every one, but none of them pleasant). I'm not sure how that happened, but the photographer just happened to catch me at some "intense" moments.

Doesn't mean I'm not a happy person! :) Or that I never look pleasant for that matter. Kind of like getting caught on film shoveling in a mouthful of food doesn't mean you're a glutton.


I don't think we were nitpicking. Just having a little fun with a pic. Those ladies could have been standing in remremberance of loved ones who died for all we know so the sad faces could be entirely appropriate.

It was more the sad faces combined with the co-incidence of them both wearing red dresses that made the imagination run wild with possible captions about these women in red at an ultra con meeting!

Rico 06-12-2008 07:32 AM

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LOL! Y'all ain't right! I couldn't help but notice the half poof thing the one lady has. Whazzzup wit dat? :D

Pennycostul 06-12-2008 10:03 AM

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Oh come on Miss Brattfield lighten up a little. I maybe one of the people in that pic Im chuckling about.

Sept5SavedTeen 06-17-2008 02:10 PM

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ConApo,

Has your assembly's pastor joined the WPF?
Does anyone know if Bro. Smith from Brewer, ME joined? I was at his church's conference, Heritage, last month- did I go to a WPF conference and not know it?! lol

GOD BLESS!
Bro. Alex

Consapostolic1 06-17-2008 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Sept5SavedTeen (Post 499679)
ConApo,

Has your assembly's pastor joined the WPF?
Does anyone know if Bro. Smith from Brewer, ME joined? I was at his church's conference, Heritage, last month- did I go to a WPF conference and not know it?! lol

GOD BLESS!
Bro. Alex

I recently switched to a UPC church but my former pastor did join the WPF and happens to be on line to speak at the AMC conf. next year.

tstew 06-17-2008 03:23 PM

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I was struck by the lack of diversity in the many pics I saw. I am not just talking about ethnic diversity, but in every way there seems to be a very narrow demographic...age, race, etc.

Sept5SavedTeen 06-17-2008 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Consapostolic1 (Post 499814)
I recently switched to a UPC church but my former pastor did join the WPF and happens to be on line to speak at the AMC conf. next year.

AMC, a WPFer, wow? Who was your pastor? Did you move or just decide to go UPC?

GOD BLESS!
Bro. Alex

Sept5SavedTeen 06-17-2008 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by tstew (Post 499860)
I was struck by the lack of diversity in the many pics I saw. I am not just talking about ethnic diversity, but in every way there seems to be a very narrow demographic...age, race, etc.

White skin, gray heads- I said the obvious. Bro. Solomon and his wife from Ethiopia were there, though, I saw them at Heritage. Was Eld. Ballestero at Stronger Together too?

GOD BLESS!
Bro. Alex

Tim Rutledge 06-18-2008 06:57 AM

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Hello, this is my first time ever posting anything. I was at the conference in Branson. I believe the fellowship goes by WPF not WWPF. We've recently pulled out of the UPC, my home Church is in Buchanan MI. I was looking something up online and came across this Apostolic Friends Fellowship and it looked interesting. Then I saw Elder Steve Epley leaves post here so I decided to register. I highly respect this elder. The meeting in Branson MO. was very balanced. I guess by most peoples standards I'm considered far to the right on about all issues. Its very easy to dwell on negatives.. and I know I can find fault with anything or anyone if I'm looking for it. The Executive council of the WPF is top notch. I question anyones integrity or intelligence who would criticize these Elders. Unless of course you've done more for the Kingdom then they have. Lord willing I'll be at the confernce in '09. And hopefully I can make it to the AMC conference in Nashville also.

Sept5SavedTeen 06-18-2008 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Tim Rutledge (Post 500289)
Hello, this is my first time ever posting anything. I was at the conference in Branson. I believe the fellowship goes by WPF not WWPF. We've recently pulled out of the UPC, my home Church is in Buchanan MI. I was looking something up online and came across this Apostolic Friends Fellowship and it looked interesting. Then I saw Elder Steve Epley leaves post here so I decided to register. I highly respect this elder. The meeting in Branson MO. was very balanced. I guess by most peoples standards I'm considered far to the right on about all issues. Its very easy to dwell on negatives.. and I know I can find fault with anything or anyone if I'm looking for it. The Executive council of the WPF is top notch. I question anyones integrity or intelligence who would criticize these Elders. Unless of course you've done more for the Kingdom then they have. Lord willing I'll be at the confernce in '09. And hopefully I can make it to the AMC conference in Nashville also.

Tim Rutledge? The Tim Rutledge? Did you pastor in CT for some time?

GOD BLESS!
Bro. Alex

Tim Rutledge 06-18-2008 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Sept5SavedTeen (Post 500300)
Tim Rutledge? The Tim Rutledge? Did you pastor in CT for some time?

GOD BLESS!
Bro. Alex

Hi Bro. Alex,
I've never Pastored. I am the Tim Rutledge..just probably not the TR you have heard of. I guess the youth Pastor in Alexandria LA. and I have the same name.

tstew 06-18-2008 01:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Rutledge (Post 500289)
Hello, this is my first time ever posting anything. I was at the conference in Branson. I believe the fellowship goes by WPF not WWPF. We've recently pulled out of the UPC, my home Church is in Buchanan MI. I was looking something up online and came across this Apostolic Friends Fellowship and it looked interesting. Then I saw Elder Steve Epley leaves post here so I decided to register. I highly respect this elder. The meeting in Branson MO. was very balanced. I guess by most peoples standards I'm considered far to the right on about all issues. Its very easy to dwell on negatives.. and I know I can find fault with anything or anyone if I'm looking for it. The Executive council of the WPF is top notch. I question anyones integrity or intelligence who would criticize these Elders. Unless of course you've done more for the Kingdom then they have. Lord willing I'll be at the confernce in '09. And hopefully I can make it to the AMC conference in Nashville also.

Bro Rutledge, I'm glad you decided to join the forum. But let me say that my criticism and the criticism of many people around the country and in this forum is in how this was done.... I guess there is a fair amount of head scratching on why it was done (the inconsistency of a stance that embraces the internet but shuns television to the extent that it is worth leaving the org...but that's another story).
Either way the massive letter writing campaign to the ministers of the organization using the UPC mailing list is unethical no matter who does it. If it were done to any of these individual pastors on the local level where some of their leaders left and used the church mailing list to inform the members unbeknowst to the pastor, I would imagine they would see the ethical issues there.
Everyone is free to join whatever organization they want. I have issue when in leaving, you cast aspersions on the organization as if we are turning back on the "preferred Apostolic way". Especially when the basis for this is something as perplexing as the embracing of the internet and the absolute horror at the thought of advertising on television. I would be a bit more impressed if they just went Amish with it.

Tim Rutledge 06-18-2008 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by tstew (Post 500908)
Bro Rutledge, I'm glad you decided to join the forum. But let me say that my criticism and the criticism of many people around the country and in this forum is in how this was done.... I guess there is a fair amount of head scratching on why it was done (the inconsistency of a stance that embraces the internet but shuns television to the extent that it is worth leaving the org...but that's another story).
Either way the massive letter writing campaign to the ministers of the organization using the UPC mailing list is unethical no matter who does it. If it were done to any of these individual pastors on the local level where some of their leaders left and used the church mailing list to inform the members unbeknowst to the pastor, I would imagine they would see the ethical issues there.
Everyone is free to join whatever organization they want. I have issue when in leaving, you cast aspersions on the organization as if we are turning back on the "preferred Apostolic way". Especially when the basis for this is something as perplexing as the embracing of the internet and the absolute horror at the thought of advertising on television. I would be a bit more impressed if they just went Amish with it.

Hello tstew,
I believe the men on the Executive Council are true Men of God. I do understand where your coming from. When the UPC was formed and or merged or when any other oneness organization has beed started I'm not sure if it could be done without upsetting people. I do not believe the WPF was started all because of the tv issue. The tv issue was just like the straw (brick) that broke the camels back. The WPF is just holding the standard where it has been (trying to go by the bilble and the upc manual) for years. I think we have to keep television out of the Church and its been proven that you cannot do that and use it for advertising and broadcasting. As far as going amish.. I'd rather by associated with the amish than the charismatics.
God Bless.
TR

Blaylock 06-18-2008 04:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Rutledge (Post 500986)
Hello tstew,
I believe the men on the Executive Council are true Men of God. I do understand where your coming from. When the UPC was formed and or merged or when any other oneness organization has beed started I'm not sure if it could be done without upsetting people. I do not believe the WPF was started all because of the tv issue. The tv issue was just like the straw (brick) that broke the camels back. The WPF is just holding the standard where it has been (trying to go by the bilble and the upc manual) for years. I think we have to keep television out of the Church and its been proven that you cannot do that and use it for advertising and broadcasting. As far as going amish.. I'd rather by associated with the amish than the charismatics.
God Bless.
TR

Dear Elder Rutledge.

Are you saying that the men left in the UPCI are not true men of God? Please tell me this isn't true, for if this is what you are saying then you are in a boat load of trouble in life.

Many churches have used TV as a mode of evangelism and are not Charismatic even before the res #4 vote. I would recommend taking your head out from the sand.

And if this is how you feel about the UPCI and want to lump everyone in this category let me tell you friend then even the Amish wouldn't want to fellowship with you.

Tim Rutledge 06-18-2008 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Blaylock (Post 501348)
Dear Elder Rutledge.

Are you saying that the men left in the UPCI are not true men of God? Please tell me this isn't true, for if this is what you are saying then you are in a boat load of trouble in life.

Many churches have used TV as a mode of evangelism and are not Charismatic even before the res #4 vote. I would recommend taking your head out from the sand.

And if this is how you feel about the UPCI and want to lump everyone in this category let me tell you friend then even the Amish wouldn't want to fellowship with you.


Hello Blaylock, I made no reference to ministers who stayed in the UPC. I know God can still work in a United Pentecostal Church. I have friends and minister friends whom I believe to be "right with God" in the UPC.

I don't think my head is in the sand. I percieve you and I are very different in what we've been taught. I have no problem with people belonging to the upc.. I just do not care for the direction they seem to be heading. The most important thing I have is my soul and I will be very careful what I fellowship. Forgive me if I came across harsh or judgemental, that was not my intent. God bless.
TR

timlan2057 06-18-2008 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim Rutledge (Post 500289)
I question anyones integrity or intelligence who would criticize these Elders. .


I stopped reading right here.

Sister Alvear 06-18-2008 07:30 PM

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Tim, put your shirt and tie on! ha...

tstew 06-18-2008 09:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Rutledge (Post 500986)
Hello tstew,
I believe the men on the Executive Council are true Men of God. I do understand where your coming from. When the UPC was formed and or merged or when any other oneness organization has beed started I'm not sure if it could be done without upsetting people. I do not believe the WPF was started all because of the tv issue. The tv issue was just like the straw (brick) that broke the camels back. The WPF is just holding the standard where it has been (trying to go by the bilble and the upc manual) for years. I think we have to keep television out of the Church and its been proven that you cannot do that and use it for advertising and broadcasting. As far as going amish.. I'd rather by associated with the amish than the charismatics.
God Bless.
TR

Bro Tim, if you wouldn't mind, I would like to hear your personal argument for banning advertisement on television while embracing almost unlimited utilization of the internet...including youtube broadcasts that are similar to TV in everyway except that it is on a computer monitor. And also do you know if the business owners involved in the WPF shun television advertising for their businesses as well. Also is there a stance against phones and other forms of technology that can receive television signals since even the definition of television that existed years ago is virtually obsolete.

Tim Rutledge 06-18-2008 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by tstew (Post 501661)
Bro Tim, if you wouldn't mind, I would like to hear your personal argument for banning advertisement on television while embracing almost unlimited utilization of the internet...including youtube broadcasts that are similar to TV in everyway except that it is on a computer monitor. And also do you know if the business owners involved in the WPF shun television advertising for their businesses as well. Also is there a stance against phones and other forms of technology that can receive television signals since even the definition of television that existed years ago is virtually obsolete.

Hi Br. Stewart, I in no way have all the answers, no one does. Technology is out pacing us. To me TV equals hollywood, and its all about making money. To me internet does not equal hollywood. I see internet as a tool. I was on-line for a couple years in the 90's, but I saw the confusion it caused and I didn't want to be a stumbling block for anyone, so I did not have internet for over 8 years. My wife and I recently decided to get on-line with some business opportunities were trying to make work. Internet is not going away, and I feel somewhat a responsibilty to my children, to try to learn, and teach them the right way to educate and be educated via the tools we have available to us. As I said I don't have all the answers. Niether do you, or anyone else on this subject. Internet should have blocks and you should be accountable for everything you do on-line. I do understand internet has the capabilty to be much worse then tv. But to me tv (hollywood) is always wrong and internet is not always wrong. Clear as mud huh??
Your UPC?

Tim Rutledge 06-18-2008 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear (Post 501567)
Tim, put your shirt and tie on! ha...

Shirt and Tie?? I Don't understand. Can I wear pants too??

Jonathan Alvear is one of the greatest preachers of all time. Any relation? He's in Sulpher LA.

Tim Rutledge 06-18-2008 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by timlan2057 (Post 501562)
I stopped reading right here.

Oh come on.. I bet you kept on reading.

I will lay my head on my pillow tonight hoping for God's mercy.

Theresa 06-18-2008 10:19 PM

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whats their website address? I havent been around in so long I dont remember

Theresa 06-18-2008 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim Rutledge (Post 501806)
Oh come on.. I bet you kept on reading.

I will lay my head on my pillow tonight hoping for God's mercy.

wont we all?

Tim Rutledge 06-18-2008 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Theresa (Post 501808)
whats their website address? I havent been around in so long I dont remember

Here you go
http://www.worldwidepf.com/page.php


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