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StMark 06-08-2008 02:22 AM

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Few Churchgoers Tithe, Study Says

05-30-08

Linda Pateo of Gardendale, Ala., says she and her husband, Robert, try to give 5 percent of their income to their church and 5 percent to Christian charities, but it's difficult with three children in college.

"I have strong feelings that God expects first fruits," Pateo said. "Sometimes we fall short. It's something we are all called to do."

A recent poll by pollster George Barna shows that only 5 percent of Americans say they tithe, or give at least 10 percent of their income to religious congregations and charitable groups.

StMark 06-08-2008 02:24 AM

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complete article here


http://www.ethicsdaily.com/article_detail.cfm?AID=10547

StMark 06-08-2008 02:26 AM

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~ ~ ~ QUESTIONS ~ ~ ~

Is this just happening in the "other" churches as in denominational churches or is this trend happening in Pentecost too ???


Do you still pay tithe?? If not, why ?


I wonder with the enconomy and the gas crisis if it will have a big effect on churches financially

Oneness Man 06-08-2008 02:27 AM

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After studying the scriptures, I don't tithe anymore. Now, I believe that if people want to pay tithes, then there is nothing wrong with it at all.

StMark 06-08-2008 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Oneness Man (Post 488370)
After studying the scriptures, I don't tithe anymore. Now, I believe that if people want to pay tithes, then there is nothing wrong with it at all.



Boy o boy, It seems like the folks on this forum are just letting go of everything !

how are churches suppose to survive if everyone stops giving

Oneness Man 06-08-2008 03:06 AM

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Giving is biblical, but there are no scriptures that show the NT Church has to tithe.

BTW, I only let go of manmade doctrines that are preached and taught in Apostolic churches today.

Brother Price 06-08-2008 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Oneness Man (Post 488374)
Giving is biblical, but there are no scriptures that show the NT Church has to tithe.

BTW, I only let go of manmade doctrines that are preached and taught in Apostolic churches today.

Amen! Things that we have taken as orthodox for years, when we study the scriptures, are not biblical. The tithe is among the biggest lie around.

If one desires to give 10% of their income freely, willfully, and cheerfully, then that is biblical and accepted of the Lord. If one does because they 'have to', then that is none of His. And many pastors, when confronted on this issue, do a good dance, but can never ever back up this false doctrine.

I will never forget when I was kicked off of another forum because of this issue. I was accused of 'disrespecting' an elder when I challenged the tithe doctrine. But, one pastor told me, when I finally showed the doctrine a lie, he said, "You're not a pastor. You would not understand." This was the nail in my coffin, because I said, as honestly as I could, that I would never have to lie to my people to keep the doors of the church open.

The tithe doctrine is a deception, a lie. We are called to give freely, willfully, and willingly. If it is of compulsion, it is not accepted of the Lord, plain and simple. And the pastors have the fault for this.

Sherri 06-08-2008 06:44 AM

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The majority of our church tithes, because we teach it very strongly. Anyone in leadership (platform, teaching, mentoring, etc.) is required to tithe. We believe it can either bring a blessing or a curse on your church, as well as yourself.

Titus2Mom 06-08-2008 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Brother Price (Post 488382)
Amen! Things that we have taken as orthodox for years, when we study the scriptures, are not biblical. The tithe is among the biggest lie around.

If one desires to give 10% of their income freely, willfully, and cheerfully, then that is biblical and accepted of the Lord. If one does because they 'have to', then that is none of His. And many pastors, when confronted on this issue, do a good dance, but can never ever back up this false doctrine.

I will never forget when I was kicked off of another forum because of this issue. I was accused of 'disrespecting' an elder when I challenged the tithe doctrine. But, one pastor told me, when I finally showed the doctrine a lie, he said, "You're not a pastor. You would not understand." This was the nail in my coffin, because I said, as honestly as I could, that I would never have to lie to my people to keep the doors of the church open.

The tithe doctrine is a deception, a lie. We are called to give freely, willfully, and willingly. If it is of compulsion, it is not accepted of the Lord, plain and simple. And the pastors have the fault for this.

:iagree

jaxfam6 06-08-2008 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Sherri (Post 488395)
The majority of our church tithes, because we teach it very strongly. Anyone in leadership (platform, teaching, mentoring, etc.) is required to tithe. We believe it can either bring a blessing or a curse on your church, as well as yourself.

I have to say I am in the same boat as you all.

Besides if you want a place to gather and worship with like minded people you really need to tithe and give offerings.

I watched as my mother who made $80.00 a week for about 3 years paid her tithes faithfully. God met all of our needs and then some.
It may not show as a NT commandment but it certainly is a principle that is taught and stressed strongly throughout the Bible. My suggestion, stop robbing yourself of a blessing and follow the Patriarch Abraham's example and tithe.
Some people choke on a gnat and swallow a camel.
A Biblical principle should not have to be taught as a command and should not be fought against as oppression.

Tina 06-08-2008 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by StMark (Post 488371)
Boy o boy, It seems like the folks on this forum are just letting go of everything !

how are churches suppose to survive if everyone stops giving

Not all of us are letting go of everything Mark. Some of us just don't get into these threads. ;)

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Originally Posted by Sherri (Post 488395)
The majority of our church tithes, because we teach it very strongly. Anyone in leadership (platform, teaching, mentoring, etc.) is required to tithe. We believe it can either bring a blessing or a curse on your church, as well as yourself.


In our church, you can plainly see who gives and who doesn't.. because those who don't give are always having financial problems, having their electricity turned off, asking for financial help from others, etc.... Those who give, are blessed.

There have been times when we have given more than we really could afford to give for a special need...because God told us to give that amount.... Then the following week, I'd have 10X or more given back to me. You just can't outgive God.

ForeverBlessed 06-08-2008 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by jaxfam6 (Post 488437)
I have to say I am in the same boat as you all.

Besides if you want a place to gather and worship with like minded people you really need to tithe and give offerings.

I watched as my mother who made $80.00 a week for about 3 years paid her tithes faithfully. God met all of our needs and then some.
It may not show as a NT commandment but it certainly is a principle that is taught and stressed strongly throughout the Bible. My suggestion, stop robbing yourself of a blessing and follow the Patriarch Abraham's example and tithe.
Some people choke on a gnat and swallow a camel.
A Biblical principle should not have to be taught as a command and should not be fought against as oppression.


amen, and it is a biblical principle before the law... we should actually desire to give all that we can to the work of God or those who are in need.

I saw this video once... a man had a pie that God gave him... he opens the pie up and gives everything/one from cars,entertainment, kids, education a slice of pie to eat but never gives God a piece and God brought the pie in the first place. Kinda humorous, but true... everything we have is his to begin with.. and we can't give some of it back?

Sherri 06-08-2008 09:42 AM

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Tithing is all about TRUST.

ForeverBlessed 06-08-2008 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Sherri (Post 488454)
Tithing is all about TRUST.

I agree...

Ron 06-08-2008 10:55 AM

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I get's a good tax deduction when I tithe!:bliss

marthaolivia 06-08-2008 12:00 PM

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I am thankful that I am blessed and able to give my tithes. God has been more than good to me.

Cindy 06-08-2008 12:16 PM

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One thing I can remember about my FIL, when he was dying and couldn't go to church he made sure his tithes were paid, and that was carried out by my MIL after his death. My husband tithes on the gross. We have been down but never out. I remember once we were struggling raising 6 kids, a church friend brought us a hundred pounds of potatoes. And now we don't just tithe money, we also tithe what we produce in our garden and eggs from our chickens. And it is not cheap to tend a garden and feed chickens, chicken feed ain't chicken feed anymore (lol). Of course I guess it's easier to just give to the government, then you can complain about how bad the economy is, but you can't blame it on God. I figure maybe God doesn't want everyone's tithes anyway. If someone begrudges giving to Him he more than likely doesn't need it anyway. I am in no way condemning anyone that does not believe in paying tithes as that is between you and Him.

Blubayou 06-08-2008 12:17 PM

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We give 10% of our income to the church, but we do not call it tithes, as we do not believe that it is a New Testament principle. Of course we believe in supporting our church with our funds- that is a New Testament principle- and 10% is a good measure to start with.

Nahum 06-08-2008 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by StMark (Post 488367)
Few Churchgoers Tithe, Study Says

05-30-08

Linda Pateo of Gardendale, Ala., says she and her husband, Robert, try to give 5 percent of their income to their church and 5 percent to Christian charities, but it's difficult with three children in college.

"I have strong feelings that God expects first fruits," Pateo said. "Sometimes we fall short. It's something we are all called to do."

A recent poll by pollster George Barna shows that only 5 percent of Americans say they tithe, or give at least 10 percent of their income to religious congregations and charitable groups.

Kinda shoots holes in that whole "pastors are evil money-grubbing thieves" theory that some AFFers love to spout.:happydance

Rico 06-08-2008 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Blubayou (Post 488506)
We give 10% of our income to the church, but we do not call it tithes, as we do not believe that it is a New Testament principle. Of course we believe in supporting our church with our funds- that is a New Testament principle- and 10% is a good measure to start with.

Sister, if you are giving 10% then it's a tithe, by definition. :)

Mrs. LPW 06-08-2008 01:14 PM

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I'm with Sherri

Sherri 06-08-2008 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Rico (Post 488554)
Sister, if you are giving 10% then it's a tithe, by definition. :)

Right - the word "tithe" just means "tenth".

Rico 06-08-2008 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster (Post 488549)
Kinda shoots holes in that whole "pastors are evil money-grubbing thieves" theory that some AFFers love to spout.:happydance

Who said that? Name some names, point to some posts, or quit making unfounded accusations against the good people of AFF! :bubble

Cindy 06-08-2008 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Rico (Post 488558)
Who said that? Name some names, point to some posts, or quit making unfounded accusations against the good people of AFF! :bubble

The name game? I love that game.
Rico, rico, bo bico banana fana fo fico, fee fie mo mico, Rico.

Rico 06-08-2008 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by cneasttx (Post 488573)
The name game? I love that game.
Rico, rico, bo bico banana fana fo fico, fee fie mo mico, Rico.

Brother PP is on my list right now. He's a Wonder Woman hater. Think I should start a "list" thread, like Thad used to? :D

DanielR 06-08-2008 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by cneasttx (Post 488573)
The name game? I love that game.
Rico, rico, bo bico banana fana fo fico, fee fie mo mico, Rico.

ROFL:killinme:slaphappy:ursofunny

Rico 06-08-2008 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DanielR (Post 488576)
ROFL:killinme:slaphappy:ursofunny

Good thing my screen name isn't Bucko. She'd be in TROUBLE!!!! :lol

Cindy 06-08-2008 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Rico (Post 488575)
Brother PP is on my list right now. He's a Wonder Woman hater. Think I should start a "list" thread, like Thad used to? :D

I ain't in that. I am practicing keeping my mouth shut in a lot of threads.:oops
:ignore

DanielR 06-08-2008 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Rico (Post 488578)
Good thing my screen name isn't Bucko. She'd be in TROUBLE!!!! :lol

You just ain't right!

And all this time I thought I was off my rocker,

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

Cindy 06-08-2008 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Rico (Post 488578)
Good thing my screen name isn't Bucko. She'd be in TROUBLE!!!! :lol

That just ain't right Charles.:reaction

Cindy 06-08-2008 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DanielR (Post 488580)
You just ain't right!

And all this time I thought I was off my rocker,

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

Amen brudder.:girlytantrum

Rico 06-08-2008 01:43 PM

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I sorry. :kickcan

Cindy 06-08-2008 01:49 PM

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iz a'right.:friend


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