Barack vows to disarm America
 

How anyone can vote for this man....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7o84PE871BE

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Hey The Russians, Chinese, and Muslims should really like him!

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Well he does say he is about "change". I just think most American don't have a clue at to what "change" he is going to bring about or they are too stupid or out of touch with current events in the world to care.

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We really need a "Bullcorn Translator" for his speeches like this. Fortunately, I have one handy...

"I will diarm America and welcome the Middle Eastern terrorist groups as brothers in a goal to end freedom, democracy, and national sovereignty. I will degrage our military, and make us a third world country, so that I may be welcomed as what I truly am, a brother in Islam. I will work to disarm the citizen and the military, open the borders, and tax the fire out of those who dare to work, and promote a dependance upon the government."

Vote Baldwin '08!

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It is mind boggling that the American public is so shallow and intellectually deficit that they are taken in by a great orator who in fact represents extreme far left positoins that previously would have been unthinkable for America.

My hope is that he and the Dems will over reach and America will wake up. When some of the Dem leaders this week called for the Nationalization of oil refinaries I think they made a serioius mistake and a few more suggestions like that could finally make America wake up to the fact that the 21st century Dem party is socialist.

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Well, this is what the Liberals want - even folk from AFF

there's even a "charismatic" delegation supporting him now!

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what does barak say on the youtube video? I have dialup and can't watch.

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So, seeking a ban on nuclear weapons, a global ban on fissile material and negotiating with Russia to take ICBMs off hair-trigger alert would be bad, right?
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From one side of his mouth he talks about how great this country is and from the other side of his mouth he talks about changing the country.

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WHy doesn't anyone point out when Obama says "I opposed THIS war from the beginning" he is speaking of the war WITH Iraq? That war is long over. We are in Nation building mode now and that requires internal police action. If we leave there now Iraq will crumble into total anarchy and war. In fact I believe if that did happen Iran would put it's hand in on a larger scale and then Saudi Arabia may end up taking counter measures. The price of oil then would be higher than anything you have yet seen

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Apparently so. I guess the thousands upon thousands of nuclear weapon we already have aren't enough. I wonder how many times over we should be able to wipe out the whole earth before we realize we have enough nuclear weapons?

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The tragic consequences of our troops having to be involved in "nation building" (while our nation slips farther and farther into financial ruin) was that our attention and money has been shifted from capturing Osama Bin Laden (remember him) and the continued struggle in Afghanistan.

We have been losing ground and troops in Afghanistan because our resources have been primarily going toward Iraq where the majority of the public wants us to leave.

This "nation building" farce has cost our country around 10 billion dollars a month, which we have been primarily borrowing from China to fund. How much longer can our nation sustain this type of spending before collapse?

General Casey stated this week that the army needed at least five years to recover from the war in Iraq, which has lasted longer than both World Wars! But, we have McCain, Lieberman and Bush wanting to go to war with Iran with our troops stretched thin and not prepared! They estimate that Iran, if they had the materials (which they don't) to develop nuclear weapons, was at least five to six years away from having the capacity to develop a nuclear bomb! Yet, those who love war have been building a case of fear in order to justify more killing of innocent women and children.

Amazing!

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Rico,

It's one of those things that doesn't make any sense, except for people bent on power and destruction.

CB1

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I thought I was pretty much up to date, but I don't recall McCain, Lieberman or Bush ever stating that they wanted to go to war with Iran. But rather explaining the need for the UN (as in everyone) to deal with Iran diplomaticly. At any rate, I don't think Isreal will give the U.S. the oppertunity to go to war with Iran. It looks to me that a repeat of Isreal bombing Iran nuclear facilities is in the making. But that's is just speculation.

(I am not a Republican, nor do I play one on T.V.)

Actually, by the standard of our military presence providing security like we are doing in Iraq, we are still involved in WWII and South Korea because we still have a significant military presence in Germany and Korea, and to a lesser degree Japan. The Iraq "war" was over some years ago, but the security that we are providing as a new nation emerges may take several decades. I don't like it any better than the next guy, but I think it's time to bring the boys home from Germany and Korea before we complain too much about Iraq. The cold war has been over since the 80's, why are we still there?

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That is fine if that is the stated reason. Another farce is that we are in the same illegal war that Bush got us in....that is not what is happening.

Bush did not go into Iraq alone. He was backed by many Democrats and Republicans too. Not only that the Democrats that were on the same house committee that saw the same information Bush did and Colin Powell.

I would that we never had gone into Iraq. It was a financial and stratetic blunder IMO

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One just needs to read in the paper the plans for bombing Iran. Here is an interesting article regarding Olmert's visit to Washington recently where he discussed strategic plans on the response from an Iranian attack! Who actually believes that Iran has plans to attack Isreal or the US. It's just more saber-rattling from the officials who would rather go to war where countless innocent lives would be destroyed than to actually resolve the matter diplomatically. http://www.informationclearinghouse....ticle20140.htm

Here is an excerpt regarding the plans that the Bush administration started a while ago regarding attacking Iran and the details on the Kyl-Lieberman Amendment :

The George W Bush administration plans to launch an air strike against Iran within the next two months, an informed source tells Asia Times Online, echoing other reports that have surfaced in the media in the United States recently.

…The source, a retired US career diplomat and former assistant secretary of state still active in the foreign affairs community, speaking anonymously, said last week that that the US plans an air strike against the Iranian Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC). The air strike would target the headquarters of the IRGC’s elite Quds force.

…The source said the White House views the proposed air strike as a limited action to punish Iran for its involvement in Iraq. The source, an ambassador during the administration of president H W Bush, did not provide details on the types of weapons to be used in the attack, nor on the precise stage of planning at this time. It is not known whether the White House has already consulted with allies about the air strike, or if it plans to do so.

The Kyl-Lieberman Amendment passed last September, named for the other senator from Arizona and everyone’s favorite independent Democrat. The amendment declared the Iranian Revolutionary Guard a terrorist organization, and was meant as a clear signal to Bush that he could proceed with any strategy he saw fit. Iran: Bush’s Nuclear Option for a McCain Victory
Trish | May. 27, 2008

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I completely agree with you, Prax.

Though it may be true that we were no longer fighting the same "illegal war" in Iraq, it sure has felt like a continuation of war with so many people still dying.

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Translation: I will be the most left wing, socialistic president ever in the history of our great nation!

If this man gets voted president, it will be a sad day for America.

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From what I understand, his voting record is about the most liberal in Washington DC.

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Ditto and amen.

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not so. I am probably one of the most liberal folks here on AFF and I am terrified of the idea of Barak Obama being elected as our next president. Lord, spare us!

If ever there was a time for Americans to be on their knees interceding for our country, it is right now!

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I agree Sister Margie.

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Fact is the congress runs the country,the presdent can't do anything except go to war with out congress ok.No worry,he is going to change nothing except congress approves it.

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:blahI don't think you can believe anything the man (obama) has said now or while he was running against HRC. he is reaching for the ultimate welfare card get it and he will never have to work or write another book and will never have to worry about telling the truth again.

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Could you elaborate on that line? I'm not sure that I have ever heard the Presidency of the United States referred to as a welfare card.

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CB1,
Gallup polls are saying that 87% of Americans think the economy if getting worse. lol

The facts are:

With everything thrown at our economy - subprime housing collapse, subsequent credit crunch, skyrocketing oil prices and record fuel costs at the pump - it is still holding up much better than in other recessions.

During Jimmy Carter's Administration the unemployment was 7.5% and inflation was 14.4%.

The national jobless rate, today, is 5.5% and in some places between 4 and 5%. Inflation is at 4.2%.

Wall Street Economists are predicting 1 to 2% growth in the second quarter and 3% in the second half of the year.

Why? Because of the small businesses and flexible labor force, as well as, believing the current rebound and the heavy investments, made globally in recent years, will pay off.

57% to 41% are in favor of drilling. :thumbsup

We are not doing bad. The media wants the American people to think we are.

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The ultimate welfare card. Isn't that special? Never have to work again? :lol What have you been smokin?

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It isn't really like that in the "real" world of our nuclear arsenal.

We do have the ability to deploy thousands of nukes, however since the break up of the Soviet Union we have pulled more stuff out of the "ready to use" inventory than we have left in.

As an example, the nukes deployed around the area I grew up were upgraded in the 1980's to carry the MX style multiple warhead payload. These have all been down graded to carry just a single warhead on each missile. The extras have been disassembled for storage and testing purposes.

We no longer manufacture nuclear weapons from scratch. The exact processes are a closely guarded secret, but according to www.fas.org (a bunch of "peaceniks" but still an excellent source of info) it appears that the US is mainly into recycling plutonium these days.

Also, if we were to "ban" the manufacture of weapons grade fissile material wouldn't that mean military action by us to enforce such a ban? That would mean war with Iran and North Korea right off the bat for an Obama administration. Is he really up to that?

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Not to worry.
Our country and our world are in BAD shape and Hussein Obama is the candidate of change. He will change all that. And as far as war, well, our new President will sit down and talk to these leaders face to face as equals and they will come to a peaceful settlement.

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Rico - apparently people don't realize that the power that we have developed has gone a long way to keeping peace throughout the world. It is because of that power that many WOULD BE NEW HITLERS have not risen, in fear of the power of the US might......and thus keeping the peace....[/I]Obama wants to throw it away with the hopes that it will encourage other nations to follow suit. Hogwash! If they see a chink in our armor they will be on us like a hen on a junebug.

The guy is nuts, but has a huge following of people who are deceived and led astray by his fancy rhetoric.

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Good morning, PO -

What you have stated above sounds great, but reality holds a much different outlook for our country! Now, I found an article by a former Assistant Secretary of the US for Ecomonic Policy who served in the Reagan Administration who exposes exactly where I country stands today....news you won't see on CNN or FOX. Check it out at http://www.informationclearinghouse....ticle18787.htm. Don't you love it that I was able to reference an article from someone who served in the Reagan administration, instead of the wacky far left liberal media? :happydance

God bless you this beautiful Sunday morning.

BTW, the joblless rate increased to 5.5% in May up fron 5.0 in April. Of course, that was a national average, but some states' jobless rates saw greater than 7% in May (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080620/...JtdXa2RV_qxQcB).

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Our strong military and our large nuclear arsenal is what kept the Soviet Empire at bay, contributed to the collapse of the USSR and Communist Eastern Europe, and has continued to keep us strong and secure to this day.

Too many people seem to not understand the concept of "peace through strength". Lack of knowledge is what's killing this country, and this dearth of knowledge and understanding is what will probably get this man Obama elected. God help America.

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Glad to see there is indeed a subject that we agree on!

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The problem is that strength relied on technology many of our enemies did not have. Enemies who now have that technology or are in the process of developing it.

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Good afternoon, CB1! lol

The higher jobless rate is reflecting graduates. Just saying..... lol

I've bookmarked your link and will read through it. Thanks!

God bless you this fine, hot, humid and dry Sunday afternoon! :D

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Someone needs to explain to me how making drastic cuts in the military and slowing the pace of military advancement meshes with this idiots goal of "protecting Americans."


once again Barak proposes change to failure and calls it progress.

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Preach that, Ferd!!! :thumbsup

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Paul Craig Roberts wanting to impeach Bush? lol - Nice! :toofunny
http://www.lewrockwell.com/roberts/roberts120.html

Here's his website. I did like what he said about Obama! :D :thumbsup