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Rico 06-23-2008 05:21 PM

Pre-Election Plans to Attack Iran
 
This week, Bill Kristol of the Weekly Standard insinuated that President Bush might launch an attack against Iran should Barack Obama be poised to win the presidency.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/huffpost/200...3_200806231159



Do y'all know anything about this?

Rico 06-23-2008 05:28 PM

Re: Pre-Election Plans to Attack Iran
 
Here's an article I found on it.

John Bolton, the former American ambassador to the United Nations, has predicted that Israel could attack Iran after the November presidential election but before George W Bush's successor is sworn in.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-predicts.html

chaotic_resolve 06-23-2008 07:31 PM

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I've heard and read reports that Dubya would attack Iran in the summer. I think it would really deepen resentment towards him.

After these past 7 years I wouldn't put anything past Dubya ... including creating a mess for the next President.

I'm beginning to question this "War on Terror" we've been waging ... but that's a whole 'nother thread.

Dedicated Mind 06-23-2008 07:40 PM

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I think the republican thinking is that America will vote conservative during wartime so Bush is timing the attack on Iran to influence the election.

Pressing-On 06-24-2008 07:29 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rico (Post 507063)
This week, Bill Kristol of the Weekly Standard insinuated that President Bush might launch an attack against Iran should Barack Obama be poised to win the presidency.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/huffpost/200...3_200806231159



Do y'all know anything about this?

Rico,
You have to go down to the 9th clip on the link.

Kristol discusses Bush and Iraq

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video_log/

TRFrance 06-24-2008 11:24 AM

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It's all silly speculation.

I remember in 2004, people were saying that maybe Bush knew where Osama Bin Laden was, and he was going to capture him right before the elections, to make himself look good in and improve his chances to defeat John Kerry. Now looking back at that we see it for what it was -- just idle election-year speculation.

augustianian 06-24-2008 11:29 AM

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I'm beginning to question this "War on Terror" we've been waging ... but that's a whole 'nother thread.
Are you beginning to question it because we haven't had a terrorist attack on these shores in 7 yrs.??

If that's the reason then there really is no reason to question something that's working, right??

Ferd 06-24-2008 12:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rico (Post 507063)
This week, Bill Kristol of the Weekly Standard insinuated that President Bush might launch an attack against Iran should Barack Obama be poised to win the presidency.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/huffpost/200...3_200806231159



Do y'all know anything about this?

While I believe John Bolton's theory is more accurate, I think everyone ought to read this article. Not because it tells you who nasty "Neoconservitives" are but because it gives a glimps into the mind of a moronic liberal whacko.

here is a quote for you
"The problem with the Islamic Republic of Iran is not its nuclear potential; or its already vast missile arsenal, or its support for anti-Israeli terrorist groups. Those are all symptoms of a greater ill. The real problem with the Islamic Republic is its isolation. And that is something that we, as Americans, have the power to change virtually overnight. "
this idiot thinks the answer to the problem in Iran isnt the radicals in control of its government. The answer is, America needs to be nice to them and become their friend.

TRFrance 06-24-2008 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by augustianian (Post 507899)
Are you beginning to question it because we haven't had a terrorist attack on these shores in 7 yrs.??

If that's the reason then there really is no reason to question something that's working, right??

Great question, and great point.
I guess if we'd been hit by a few more terrorist attacks after 9/11, nobody would be questioning the war on terror. But of course if we had been hit again, most of these same people would find fault with President Bush for not keeping America safe. Such irony.

BrotherEastman 06-24-2008 02:52 PM

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I love it! Btw, many Arabs are happy that Isreal is going to destroy Iran's nuke capabilities, even if they do not publickly say so.

Rico 06-24-2008 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BrotherEastman (Post 508319)
I love it! Btw, many Arabs are happy that Isreal is going to destroy Iran's nuke capabilities, even if they do not publickly say so.

You love it? What is it that you love, Bro.?

Sam 06-24-2008 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BrotherEastman (Post 508319)
I love it! Btw, many Arabs are happy that Isreal is going to destroy Iran's nuke capabilities, even if they do not publickly say so.

In my opinion, many are just waiting for Israel to go ahead and destroy the facility. They did that years ago in Iran and more recently in Syria. After it's done there will be condemnation from many but many will breathe a sigh of relief and be glad it's taken care of.

The U.S. is currently fighting Iranian trained and supported terrorists in Iraq. Americans are being killed because of Iran's support in Iraq.

Israel is also fighting Iranian trained and supported terrorists in their own country.

Sha'alu shalom Yerushalayim
(Pray for the Peace of Jerusalem):
they shall prosper that love thee.
Psalm 122:6 OJB

tstew 06-24-2008 09:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TRFrance (Post 507892)
It's all silly speculation.

I remember in 2004, people were saying that maybe Bush knew where Osama Bin Laden was, and he was going to capture him right before the elections, to make himself look good in and improve his chances to defeat John Kerry. Now looking back at that we see it for what it was -- just idle election-year speculation.

I've wondered for a while if Osama Bin Laden has actually been dead of natural causes for years now. He was a very sick man even before 9/11, and running through the mountains doesn't lend itself to the type of medical care he required. I find it strange that he hasn't released any videos in years. A video would be greatly beneficial to their cause. In the last video he released years ago, he looked very ill and was not using his dominant hand to gesture at all. I don't think he moved that side of his body at all.

BrotherEastman 06-25-2008 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Rico (Post 508324)
You love it? What is it that you love, Bro.?

I was being sarcastic within myself reading the more liberal view of how everyone hates the U.S. because of a possible attack on Iran when the truth is the fact that Isreal will do the job. That's why I said "I love it!".

bkstokes 06-25-2008 09:30 AM

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I am in the Air Guard and before this I was active duty AF. Frankly, I do not see how we could attack Iran. We already have so much on our plate. Over 75% of my Guard unit is activated. Where will they get the people to do an attack? I really couldn't see them starting the draft up again.

Rico 06-25-2008 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by bkstokes (Post 509109)
I am in the Air Guard and before this I was active duty AF. Frankly, I do not see how we could attack Iran. We already have so much on our plate. Over 75% of my Guard unit is activated. Where will they get the people to do an attack? I really couldn't see them starting the draft up again.

They could take out this nuclear plant with an air strike.

Ferd 06-25-2008 09:37 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bkstokes (Post 509109)
I am in the Air Guard and before this I was active duty AF. Frankly, I do not see how we could attack Iran. We already have so much on our plate. Over 75% of my Guard unit is activated. Where will they get the people to do an attack? I really couldn't see them starting the draft up again.

Bro. it is very likely that the US wont be involved in any attack on Iran.

Israel will likely do this. however, if there is U.S. involvement, it will be logistical assistance and possible fighter cover for their bombers.... if anything at all.

even if we did get involved, it would be a bombing campaign that would last a week or so and no invasion.

this isnt an Iraq redux.

chaotic_resolve 06-25-2008 11:19 AM

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If Israel attacks Iran, you can bet your sweet bippy the US will be heavily involved behind the scenes. Logistics, supplies, missles, support, finances ... Basically whatever Israel would need, the US would give them if they attacked Iran.

I think it would be a monumentously stupid move ... but this is the administration prone to monumentous blunders. Hopefully Dubya will allow the EU and other Arab states take the lead and work through a better process than what was done with Iraq.

If Dubya still had a few years left in office, I could easy see him launching a full-scale attack on Iran and implementing a draft.

Thankfully he's only in office seven more months ... and that will be the end of an error.

Ferd 06-25-2008 11:25 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chaotic_resolve (Post 509223)
If Israel attacks Iran, you can bet your sweet bippy the US will be heavily involved behind the scenes. Logistics, supplies, missles, support, finances ... Basically whatever Israel would need, the US would give them if they attacked Iran.

I think it would be a monumentously stupid move ... but this is the administration prone to monumentous blunders. Hopefully Dubya will allow the EU and other Arab states take the lead and work through a better process than what was done with Iraq.

If Dubya still had a few years left in office, I could easy see him launching a full-scale attack on Iran and implementing a draft.

Thankfully he's only in office seven more months ... and that will be the end of an error.

So my friend, what do you think the proper course of action should be to deal with Iran getting nuclear bombs? Considering that they have an official position of wiping Israel off the face of the earth... and have a proven track record of equiping terrorists that want to blow up America....

IF (and Godforbid) Barak Obama is elected, and IF (yea right) he were to support action against Iran, I would stand up and cheer and support him 100% for the act.

chaotic_resolve 06-25-2008 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 509232)
So my friend, what do you think the proper course of action should be to deal with Iran getting nuclear bombs? Considering that they have an official position of wiping Israel off the face of the earth... and have a proven track record of equiping terrorists that want to blow up America....

IF (and Godforbid) Barak Obama is elected, and IF (yea right) he were to support action against Iran, I would stand up and cheer and support him 100% for the act.

Ahmadinejad is just a puppet ... according to Iran's laws he has a boss. The real leader in Iran (and commander in chief of the military) is not Ahmadinejad - it's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. And while Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is completely against Israel and the US, it's doubtful he would seek to acquire, or use nuclear weapons against Israel.

It's already a done deal anyway. We and the EU are doing exactly what the US and England did to Japan before the attack on Pearl Harbor. We and other nations are now going to blockade Iran's ports and squeeze them to the point where Iran will have no choice but to attack. Then we'll say, "see, I told you so."

Just a matter of time.

Let negotiations continue. Forget about the puppet and appeal to Ayatollah Ali Khamenei and the real power of Iran - the people. Blockades and sanctions are only going to hurt the people of Iran, not Ahmadinejad. Negotiating with Iran isn't a sign of weakness, so long as there is no appeasement.

Remember: Negotiation does NOT equal Appeasement.

Ferd 06-25-2008 01:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chaotic_resolve (Post 509255)
Ahmadinejad is just a puppet ... according to Iran's laws he has a boss. The real leader in Iran (and commander in chief of the military) is not Ahmadinejad - it's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. And while Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is completely against Israel and the US, it's doubtful he would seek to acquire, or use nuclear weapons against Israel.

It's already a done deal anyway. We and the EU are doing exactly what the US and England did to Japan before the attack on Pearl Harbor. We and other nations are now going to blockade Iran's ports and squeeze them to the point where Iran will have no choice but to attack. Then we'll say, "see, I told you so."

Just a matter of time.

Let negotiations continue. Forget about the puppet and appeal to Ayatollah Ali Khamenei and the real power of Iran - the people. Blockades and sanctions are only going to hurt the people of Iran, not Ahmadinejad. Negotiating with Iran isn't a sign of weakness, so long as there is no appeasement.

Remember: Negotiation does NOT equal Appeasement.


We all know who the real power is in Iran. and we should all know that the president of Iran is the mouthpiece of the power there.

You assume a great deal when you say the ahatolla wont attack Israel. More than I am willing to.

You also are working with a revised history of WW2 my friend. One I dont recognize. Short of joining the Axis, America was always going to be a target for Japan.

Lets just roll with the understanding that we view this all very very differently.

chaotic_resolve 06-25-2008 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 509394)
You also are working with a revised history of WW2 my friend. One I dont recognize. Short of joining the Axis, America was always going to be a target for Japan.

Did we not enforce a blockade of Japan?

What would the US do if another country enforced a blockade of its borders?

We both know the answer to these.

Tyk 06-25-2008 04:25 PM

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Matthew 24:6And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.

Ferd 06-25-2008 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyk (Post 509642)
Matthew 24:6And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.

my friend I do appreciate your providing us with this scripture.

alas, if i were to find us a time machine and set it to go back in time a decade at a time, each stop would land us in a period where there were wars and rumors of war.... all the way back to the time of Christ.... yea even back to the day Cain killed Able.

Ferd 06-25-2008 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by chaotic_resolve (Post 509614)
Did we not enforce a blockade of Japan?

What would the US do if another country enforced a blockade of its borders?

We both know the answer to these.

so you suggest that the attack on Pearl Harbor was simply a result of our agression and part of a greater plan the Japanese had to dominate the pacific?

I think the evidence suggests otherwise.

Tyk 06-25-2008 04:39 PM

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Anyone who is in christ I love as a brother, and I long for us all the fulfill his will and please him! I didn't mean to offer a rebuke at all in this case. :) honest!

And my heart aches for those lost in sin and deceived by this wicked world. I wish I could save every-one for the glory of god and receive no credit at all! I love them too, but in a slightly different way :-)

God Bless.

Ferd 06-25-2008 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyk (Post 509657)
Anyone who is in christ I love as a brother, and I long for us all the fulfill his will and please him! I didn't mean to offer a rebuke at all in this case. :) honest!

And my heart aches for those lost in sin and deceived by this wicked world. I wish I could save every-one for the glory of god and receive no credit at all! I love them too, but in a slightly different way :-)

God Bless.

I surely didnt take it in a negative way. I do appreciate the reminder of our higher calling!

God Bless.

chaotic_resolve 06-25-2008 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 509648)
so you suggest that the attack on Pearl Harbor was simply a result of our agression and part of a greater plan the Japanese had to dominate the pacific?

I think the evidence suggests otherwise.

You didn't answer the question ...

We'll agree to disagree, friend. :thumbsup

Evang.Benincasa 01-04-2026 10:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rico (Post 507063)
This week, Bill Kristol of the Weekly Standard insinuated that President Bush might launch an attack against Iran should Barack Obama be poised to win the presidency.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/huffpost/200...3_200806231159



Do y'all know anything about this?

This thread was 2008!!!! George Bush was president!!! They wanted to attack Iran? Seriously? What are these guys placed on the hit list for every president? Good grief :heeheehee

Amanah 01-05-2026 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1620946)
This thread was 2008!!!! George Bush was president!!! They wanted to attack Iran? Seriously? What are these guys placed on the hit list for every president? Good grief :heeheehee

:heeheehee

Tithesmeister 01-07-2026 07:56 AM

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I hear that they are promising their citizens $7 per month to quell the unrest. I may just have to move to Iran!!!

Evang.Benincasa 01-07-2026 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Tithesmeister (Post 1620959)
I hear that they are promising their citizens $7 per month to quell the unrest. I may just have to move to Iran!!!

That’s not fair! We should bomb them for that! :happydance

Evang.Benincasa 01-17-2026 07:33 AM

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Israel and Arab Nations Ask Trump to Refrain From Attacking Iran
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel asked the president to postpone any planned attack. Israeli and Arab officials fear Iran could retaliate by striking their countries.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/15/u...israel-us.html

I remember back in the early 70s when Americans didn't even know Iran existed. How long has the politicians been threatening this this country?

They got Maduro, but can't seem to throw Hunter Biden in jail? Go figure?

Hillary and Bill Killton are laughing.

Edward Bernays would be proud. :lol


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