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StMark 06-24-2008 01:34 AM

Your Opinion on Wal Mart Please
 
I've read and heard stuff about how we shouldn't shop at Wal-Mart with various reasons why....

Here's some of the reasons I've heard about why I should not shop at Wal-Mart:

- they treat employees poorly
- they are responsible for poor working conditions and child labor/sweat shops in 3rd world and developing countries
- they have destroyed American towns and commerce (mom-n-pop shops)
- they represent everything that is ugly about America

What are your thoughts?

Do you shop at Wal mart??
Is there anything that would stop you from shopping there ?

hometown guy 06-24-2008 01:47 AM

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shhh stMark everyone is to sleep

pelathais 06-24-2008 06:48 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by StMark (Post 507688)
I've read and heard stuff about how we shouldn't shop at Wal-Mart with various reasons why....

Here's some of the reasons I've heard about why I should not shop at Wal-Mart:

- they treat employees poorly
- they are responsible for poor working conditions and child labor/sweat shops in 3rd world and developing countries
- they have destroyed American towns and commerce (mom-n-pop shops)
- they represent everything that is ugly about America

What are your thoughts?

Do you shop at Wal mart??
Is there anything that would stop you from shopping there ?

I understand that your gift registry will be at Wal-Mart when you get married. Is this true?

revrandy 06-24-2008 06:56 AM

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A Necessary Evil...

rgcraig 06-24-2008 07:06 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by StMark (Post 507688)
I've read and heard stuff about how we shouldn't shop at Wal-Mart with various reasons why....

Here's some of the reasons I've heard about why I should not shop at Wal-Mart:

- they treat employees poorly
- they are responsible for poor working conditions and child labor/sweat shops in 3rd world and developing countries
- they have destroyed American towns and commerce (mom-n-pop shops)
- they represent everything that is ugly about America

What are your thoughts?

Do you shop at Wal mart??
Is there anything that would stop you from shopping there ?

Now, that's not nice.....I've seen some nice looking people in Walmart.

bethola 06-24-2008 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by revrandy (Post 507717)
A Necessary Evil...

I dont' really "enjoy" shopping there, BUT, as a cake decorator the prices for my ingredients are much cheaper and when you are doing a wedding cake and groom's cake for 200 people......well 'nuff said.

rgcraig 06-24-2008 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by bethola (Post 507723)
I dont' really "enjoy" shopping there, BUT, as a cake decorator the prices for my ingredients are much cheaper and when you are doing a wedding cake and groom's cake for 200 people......well 'nuff said.

Do you shop at Sam's since you have to have it in bulk?

Cindy 06-24-2008 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 507718)
Now, that's not nice.....I've seen some nice looking people in Walmart.

:toofunny

Carpenter 06-24-2008 07:53 AM

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Most of the super walmarts I have been in have been dirty, trashy, stuff all over, cardboard boxes. I try not to go to Walmart just because I feel like I am in an open market in Mexico.

Once in a while they have a good orange or two, they sell fishing licenses, windshield washer fluid and deoderant...thats about it.

Pragmatist 06-24-2008 07:55 AM

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I shop there because it is significantly cheaper, especially for groceries. If I was independently wealthy, maybe I could shop and be socially conscious, but since I'm not, I go for the lowest price.

Ferd 06-24-2008 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 507718)
Now, that's not nice.....I've seen some nice looking people in Walmart.

Did you alert the authorities? or were these nice looking people taking a field trip?

Cindy 06-24-2008 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 507737)
Did you alert the authorities? or were these nice looking people taking a field trip?

:toofunny

Bro-Larry 06-24-2008 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Carpenter (Post 507735)
Most of the super walmarts I have been in have been dirty, trashy, stuff all over, cardboard boxes. I try not to go to Walmart just because I feel like I am in an open market in Mexico.

Once in a while they have a good orange or two, they sell fishing licenses, windshield washer fluid and deoderant...thats about it.

Have you seen the new upscale ones? They built the very first one here in Highland Village, Tx. They are super nice and clean.

rapunzelgirl 06-24-2008 08:08 AM

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Hate it! Our town already has two supercenters, and I was so proud when we fought back and rejected a third one.

I never go there unless it's absolutely unavoidable. I shop at Target and Kroger which shows that I'm not necessarily looking out for Mom&Pops, but I just hate the atmosphere in Wal-Mart. When I leave Target or Kroger I'm happy and pleased with my shopping experience, but when I leave Wal-Mart I usually want to shoot someone.

I think I did a blog post about Wal-Mart last December sometime, but I can't access blogger at work, so I can't put up a link.

ETA: StMark, could you PLEASE fix your typo in this thread title? It's driving me batty.

tbpew 06-24-2008 08:11 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by StMark (Post 507688)
I've read and heard stuff about how we shouldn't shop at Wal-Mart with various reasons why....

Here's some of the reasons I've heard about why I should not shop at Wal-Mart:

- they treat employees poorly
- they are responsible for poor working conditions and child labor/sweat shops in 3rd world and developing countries
- they have destroyed American towns and commerce (mom-n-pop shops)
- they represent everything that is ugly about America

What are your thoughts?

Do you shop at Wal mart??
Is there anything that would stop you from shopping there ?

my wife does shop in our local Walmarts. I shop there for camping supplies and occassionally for oil change or light automotive supplies.

I can not find agreement with any of the listed concerns. Walmart is one of the only 'under 12.00/hr' employers that have a benefits package and a real track for vertical movement from the employee ranks.

the one point I am greived by relates to:
- they are responsible for poor working conditions and child labor/sweat shops in 3rd world and developing countries

BY NO MEANS are they RESPONSIBLE, but they are a SIGNIFICANT ENABLER of the autrocities that the Chinese central government extorts from their weakest citizens. If our middle-class moms could be fully aware of the circumstances surrounding the workers who produce the products they consume, I think more of the economic boom funding the Chinese empire's expansion, would reach the families that do the work.

Is Walmart to blame for where they buy their merchandise? I do not think so. They have built an entire corporate mantra on "buy for less". I believe the corpporate buyers do have vast, untapped influence, but unitl the American conventional wisdom links the environment of the producers with the purchaser's decision-making, why would Walmart stir up contention?

It would be a foolish mode for a 'for-profit' corporation to find itself in....as moral crusaders where their own customers are fully disengaged.

SOUNWORTHY 06-24-2008 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 507718)
Now, that's not nice.....I've seen some nice looking people in Walmart.

One of my brother's in law supposedly said that only poor fat people shop at WalMart. I ain't poor nor am I fat but I do shop there on occasion but not one of my favorites.

SOUNWORTHY 06-24-2008 08:17 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by StMark (Post 507688)
I've read and heard stuff about how we shouldn't shop at Wal-Mart with various reasons why....

Here's some of the reasons I've heard about why I should not shop at Wal-Mart:

- they treat employees poorly
- they are responsible for poor working conditions and child labor/sweat shops in 3rd world and developing countries
- they have destroyed American towns and commerce (mom-n-pop shops)
- they represent everything that is ugly about America

What are your thoughts?

Do you shop at Wal mart??
Is there anything that would stop you from shopping there ?

Mark, some of your posts are very thought provoking and others are just down right provoking!! :toofunny

CC1 06-24-2008 08:33 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by StMark (Post 507688)
I've read and heard stuff about how we shouldn't shop at Wal-Mart with various reasons why....

Here's some of the reasons I've heard about why I should not shop at Wal-Mart:

- they treat employees poorly
- they are responsible for poor working conditions and child labor/sweat shops in 3rd world and developing countries
- they have destroyed American towns and commerce (mom-n-pop shops)
- they represent everything that is ugly about America

What are your thoughts?

Do you shop at Wal mart??
Is there anything that would stop you from shopping there ?


After my father died when I was 13 and my mom was 42 she went back to night school and got her GED. Later she went on to college and earned her Bachelors degree.

However she lived in a small Louisiana town without many job opportunties. She took a job at Wal Mart and absolutely loved it. She made many friends in the co-workers there and saw many people in the community she knew as they shopped.

Wal Mart was one of the few employers in that small town to offer comprehensive benefits. Great health care and an optional long term disability insurance package for just $15 per month which thankfully she took.

When my mom was about 59 she suffered a stroke while visiting me. Her Wal Mart health insurance was fabulous and took care of the finest care and rehab with no questions asked.

That long term disability insurance plan they had offered for just fifteen bucks a month also paid my mom what she would have earned working for the next six years until she was 65 and eligible for her Social Security retirement.

Contrast that with a few years later when her healthcare was medicare that she supplemented by signing up for an HMO. When she had a major stroke that left her almost completely paralyzed, unable to speak, and tube fed, this rotton HMO called the hospital multiple times a day trying to kick her out to a nursing home while they were still trying to get her stable.

Finally the HMO rep actually came to the hospital herself to check it out and after seeing my mom at least apologized to me for trying to say she was ready to go to a nursing home. It turned out right after the stroke my mom had gall stones and could not longer speak to communicate what was wrong. She had to have emergency gall bladder surgery. Oh what I would have given for her to have stlil been on that great Wal Mart health inusrance she had when she had her first stroke.

OnTheFritz 06-24-2008 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Bro-Larry (Post 507743)
Have you seen the new upscale ones? They built the very first one here in Highland Village, Tx. They are super nice and clean.

Hey, I used to live in Highland Village. Now I'm over in Fairview (near Allen). What church do you attend?

Pastor Keith 06-24-2008 08:41 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by StMark (Post 507688)
I've read and heard stuff about how we shouldn't shop at Wal-Mart with various reasons why....

Here's some of the reasons I've heard about why I should not shop at Wal-Mart:

- they treat employees poorly
- they are responsible for poor working conditions and child labor/sweat shops in 3rd world and developing countries
- they have destroyed American towns and commerce (mom-n-pop shops)
- they represent everything that is ugly about America

What are your thoughts?

Do you shop at Wal mart??
Is there anything that would stop you from shopping there ?

I like Walmart, sometimes I don't like the crowds, or the fact that in some English is rarely spoken.

But without Walmart there wouldnt be a strong middle class they have single handedly helped fuel the middle class in the US.

They keep other retailers honest, without a Walmart presence, HEB, Safeway, Kroger, Piggly Wiggly, whatever other corporate run Grocerer would raise prices 20% or more.

Yes they get a bad rap, but primarily from unions and their supporters.

Go WALMART!!!

Esther 06-24-2008 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 507737)
Did you alert the authorities? or were these nice looking people taking a field trip?

:toofunny:toofunny:toofunny

rgcraig 06-24-2008 09:36 AM

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You know Walmart is one place that you can run in to and grab that ONE thing you need and not worry about how you look.

Traci 06-24-2008 09:36 AM

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Wal-Mart & Piggly-Wiggly is our only choices in our little town so we usually go to Wal-Mart but we do try to buy things made somewhere else besides China even if we have to pay a few more dollars. I would shop at Target if we had one. And Kroger. I miss having a Kroger.

Steve Epley 06-24-2008 09:53 AM

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WalMart is great for the consumer. Most folks I have known who work there like it.

Baron1710 06-24-2008 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 507827)
You know Walmart is one place that you can run in to and grab that ONE thing you need and not worry about how you look.

If you run into Walmart for one thing you must have a lot of time on your hands. It seems like you are in line there forever. I avoid Walmart as much as possible. I hate waiting in line, and I despise their total lack of customer service.

I don’t care if they treat their employees well or not. If they don’t wanna work there, get another job.

vrblackwell 06-24-2008 09:59 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by StMark (Post 507688)
I've read and heard stuff about how we shouldn't shop at Wal-Mart with various reasons why....

Here's some of the reasons I've heard about why I should not shop at Wal-Mart:

- they treat employees poorly
- they are responsible for poor working conditions and child labor/sweat shops in 3rd world and developing countries
- they have destroyed American towns and commerce (mom-n-pop shops)
- they represent everything that is ugly about America

What are your thoughts?

Do you shop at Wal mart??
Is there anything that would stop you from shopping there ?

Thad, please stop reading liberal, socialistic material.

augustianian 06-24-2008 10:22 AM

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- they treat employees poorly
The employer has the right to distribute labor as he/she sees fit. The employee has the right to distribute his/her labor as he/she sees fit...like if he/she doesn't like the way he/she is treated then, get another job. (see Adam Smith). Besides, couldn't the same complaint be made about every employer at one time or another??

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- they are responsible for poor working conditions and child labor/sweat shops in 3rd world and developing countries
And yet this country was built on such labor practices. It's probably not a valuable nor charitable endeavour to take jobs, and money, away from 3rd world families because Western do-gooders don't like the fact that they and their children are sweating.

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- they have destroyed American towns and commerce (mom-n-pop shops)
Ahh small town America nostalgia...which is responsible for how many jobs?? I don't think it's right to make a family of four suffer because mom and pop want to keep selling their limited products for higher prices.

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- they represent everything that is ugly about America
So...it's not art...it's business.

Yeah...creating a new market, selling cheaper products, making convenience a business necessity for the customer, all the while turning a profit.

You're right...that is what's "ugly" about America.

It's called the free market...and you might think it's ugly, but it is the most American of ideas.

Do you realize that Wal-Mart is responsible for more production and profits than most countries?? Take that out of the American economy...do you think the mom and pop shops could fill that void??

CC1 06-24-2008 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Baron1710 (Post 507853)
If you run into Walmart for one thing you must have a lot of time on your hands. It seems like you are in line there forever. I avoid Walmart as much as possible. I hate waiting in line, and I despise their total lack of customer service.

I don’t care if they treat their employees well or not. If they don’t wanna work there, get another job.

Almost immediately after Sam Walton died the service went down a lot. I think he must have been the only force on the board insisting on good customer service.

For awhile I avoided Wal Mart because of the lines but the last few years they seem to have staffed back up to handle the crowds and I don't have any problems with the ones in my area.

rgcraig 06-24-2008 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 507895)
Almost immediately after Sam Walton died the service went down a lot. I think he must have been the only force on the board insisting on good customer service.

For awhile I avoided Wal Mart because of the lines but the last few years they seem to have staffed back up to handle the crowds and I don't have any problems with the ones in my area.

Some of the newer Walmart's have self check out and that's really nice!

Blubayou 06-24-2008 10:45 AM

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I shop Wal Mart most of the time because it is convenient and the prices are better. In our community it is the biggest "game" in town. But I do not buy meat there- the meat there is terrible. If I have a few groceries to purchase or buy meat I go to a local mom and pop grocery.

mama bear 06-24-2008 10:47 AM

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very simple...Go to Wal-Mart OR Don't go to Wal-Mart.
At least our government has still left us with this choice.

Pressing-On 06-24-2008 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by mama bear (Post 507925)
very simple...Go to Wal-Mart OR Don't go to Wal-Mart.
At least our government has still left us with this choice.

Good point! :toofunny

Baron1710 06-24-2008 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 507895)
Almost immediately after Sam Walton died the service went down a lot. I think he must have been the only force on the board insisting on good customer service.

For awhile I avoided Wal Mart because of the lines but the last few years they seem to have staffed back up to handle the crowds and I don't have any problems with the ones in my area.

Do you own Walmart stock? Sounds like you are trying to convert me. LOL

Pressing-On 06-24-2008 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Baron1710 (Post 507934)
Do you own Walmart stock? Sounds like you are trying to convert me. LOL

Our SIL does! :toofunny :toofunny

Scott Hutchinson 06-24-2008 10:58 AM

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I work for Wal-Mart is it perfect heavens no,do I agree with the company on everything certainly not. But it is the job the Lord has provided for me,so I am thankful to have a job.

rgcraig 06-24-2008 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Baron1710 (Post 507934)
Do you own Walmart stock? Sounds like you are trying to convert me. LOL

My dad DID......he sold it too early. Shoulda, coulda, woulda........:tissue

SOUNWORTHY 06-24-2008 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson (Post 507937)
I work for Wal-Mart is it perfect heavens no,do I agree with the company on everything certainly not. But it is the job the Lord has provided for me,so I am thankful to have a job.

Scott, you look like a Wal Mart greeter!!:bliss

DividedThigh 06-24-2008 12:12 PM

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my wife works for them so in our haste to judge let us not destroy all the good, she likes it there and has decent benes,dt

tbpew 06-24-2008 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DividedThigh (Post 508086)
my wife works for them so in our haste to judge let us not destroy all the good, she likes it there and has decent benes,dt

....it apears there may have only be ONE who has exhibited a "haste to judge":drama

Steve Epley 06-24-2008 12:21 PM

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My wife loves WalMart. Who cares what the left-wing media has to say about it.


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