Is divorce a sin if no one was unfaithful?
 

What if church folks divorce, without biblical cause...is this a sin for them? Or would it be a sin to remarry?

There is so much divorce in the church anyway, I wondered what your thoughts were on the matter...

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I find nowhere the bible allows for divorce and remarriage for any reason other than fornication/adultery.

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It allows for divorce if there can be no peace. The emphasis being on peace. Of course the scripture is speaking of a believer and non-believer.
1 Corinthians 7:14-16 (King James Version)

14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.

15 But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace. 16 For what knowest thou, O wife, whether thou shalt save thy husband? or how knowest thou, O man, whether thou shalt save thy wife?

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Till death do you part. Even if you picked badly. ;)

No, really, I am not for these no-fault divorces. If there's abuse going on, that's one thing, but just because folks can't get along or agree on how to wash the dishes or what color to paint the front hall???? Put your pride aside, and work at it!

At the most, separate until you have a cooler head, and then try to reconcile. Divorce? I don't think it's the right thing.

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I don't believe in divorce except for cases of unfaithfulness or fraud.

In the case of unfaithfulness, I think I would be more inclined to forgive than to divorce, but it would be a VERY difficult situation to handle.

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Biblically, yes.

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Moses allowed divorce to help save the lives of wives, because some men were so hard hearted, that, if they had no other way out, they would kill their wives.

But divorce is not God's original plan. Jesus said that not all men can receive this truth.
He that is able to receive it, let him receive it. (Matt 18:11-12)

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Ah, but the question added "remarriage" into the equation. That is the kicker, IMHO. I do not believe divorce is a sin at all. Otherwise God committed sin when he gave Israel a bill of divorcement (Isa 50:1).

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I believe divorce is allowed for any one of the three "A's".

1) Adultry= Unrepentant pornia (Acts 15:20). Includes all forms of sexual immorality.
2) Abuse= Violent psycological and violent physical abuse.
3) Abandonment= Failure of an able-bodied husband to provide companionship, food, shelter, clothing, physical protection for his wife and children.

If a woman leaves and he starts EXTREME stalking and EXTREME threatening her, she should take him seriously. If she has a dad then should take care of things. If she has none, then she should do what ever she has to do to prevent him from killing her, and her children.

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Have you been listening to Dr. Laura???? :coffee2 :D

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Not in many moons. :ursofunny Does she say that?

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Something similar, LOL!!!! I like her, but she can be pretty tough--too tough for me.

I think her 3 A's are Adultery, Abuse, or Addiction.

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I think there are reasons that are allowable for divorce. The Bible doesn't mention every little detail that we must follow, just like it doesn't mention every sin.

Sometimes mistakes are made. God forgives anyway.

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interesting answers...

I had never read those scriptures posted...interesting.

If a husband is not a provider, is not a spiritual leader and doesnt see to the needs of his family spiritually, I think the wife has every right to divorce him. He in essence divorced them already by not providing for them in all areas..IMO

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Do you have a time line in mind? If he is not working for one, three, six months, or more?

Or what if he wants to go to a non-denominational apostolic fellowship but her roots are planted firmly in the UPC?

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I enjoy listening to Dr.Laura! I've listened to her offf and on for years. She may be tough, but if people would actually take her advice...This would be a different world! LOL

but....some don't wanna listen to God, guess they won't listen to Dr.Laura! LOL

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Exactly... There are no limits if we can start fabricating reasons.

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She was really close to her mother.:whistle:aaa

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:ursofunny:ursofunny

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Now THAT was scary dysfunctional!!!!!

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The old woman was dead for days and no one knew it. That kinda finished me with her.

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Actually, it was longer than a few days!!!!

"...Dr. Laura received word of her mother's death from the Beverly Hills police. Her mother was found dead lying on the floor of her condo. She had been dead for about four months." www.cbn.com/700club


:aaa

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Maybe their bad relationship is the catalyst for Dr. Laura to harp on family values so much? Just a thought. That is awful, though.

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What? What happen? What did I miss? I know I am missing something here!

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Dr. Laura had a strained relationship with her mother, and at some point she and her mother stopped talking to one another. (Apparently her mother's choice? ...but only one side of the story.) Anyway, one of the mother's neighbors noticed she had been missing for a few weeks, and called the police. They found her badly decomposed body (apparently dead for around 4 months) in her apartment.

Google "Dr. Laura's mother", there are several articles about it online. (News and bio.)

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This says it all in a nutshell. Good post. There is no sin that is not forgiveable by Christ, up to and including divorce. If the divorce is forgiven and not held against one then the subsequent remarriage is recognized by God and faith community.

Blessings, Rhoni

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Bro. Epley,

This is a harsh statement as no one knows the particulars of the history of this family but they and God.

A person's ministry and life work can be formed by circumstances such as these.

If we applied your thought logic to Preachers and Pastors then we would have so few 'qualified' to be in that position. As a matter of fact, most Bible heroes would be not qualified for God to use:snapout

Blessings, Rhoni

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Part of the issue with divorce is that people think when they separate from the other person, they separate from their problems. But problems just follow them to other relationships. My advice to a family who is contemplating divorce number two right now is to be uncomfortable, go to counseling, and be patient (in their case there is no abuse or danger, just lots of stupidity!).
Because once you have you have decided to leave in your heart, it is almost always over.

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You are absolutely correct. For this reason it is necesary to resolve the issues you have had to this point in order to be able to have and maintain a healthy relationship. That is the purpose of Divorce Recovery Counseling. These issues must be resolved or it will sabotogue your next relationship.

You are also correct that when a person has decided to leave a marriage in their heart...it is always over unless God changes their heart because they are submissive to God.

Blessings, Rhoni

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You think she has every right to? But what does the bible say? I think that's what really matters.

If you're going by scripture as your guideline, you cant just say divorce under those other situations is fine because you think it would be ok. Scripture only gives two justifiable reasons for divorce: 1... adultery/sexual immorality (Mat 5:32,19:9), and 2.. the case of an unbelieving spouse departing from the marriage (1 cor 7:15).

I think we should be real careful about adding other reasons that the bible doesn't refer to.

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If two believer's are married and one commits adultery, are they still a believer?

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Depends.

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I have thought about this before, the first (lust of the heart) may be months or even years before the actual act occurs. Does all that time count or just the latter part?

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Since divorce is being discussed opinions on this case. A woman commits adultery in marriage. Then she gets saved. Are they considered now to be a new creation and its under the blood of Christ?

Or or they still accountable to the teaching of "whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery"?

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Maybe neither. I don't believe lust qualifies as a reason for divorce. Nor do I believe a Christian becomes an unbeliever by a single act. I have never had to deal with this situation but it seems to me that if a spouse does commit adultery that there should be room for forgiveness by God and the other spouse. When one chooses to turn from God and live a lifestyle of sin he becomes an unbeliever. If repentance an about face then so is becoming an unbeliever.

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i think this is a tough one, the church is full of divorce now, i agree with bro larrys 3 reasons, dont like divorce, never wanted one, but i have had to live thr two, i dont think others should judge, dt

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Oh my goodness. So a woman has a husband that physically abusing her. No adultery just physical abuse. According to your position she has to stay with him. I am a pastor and my doctrine can be summed up in one phrase: IF HE IS BEATING YOU: LEAVE HIM.


TRW

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it would be abuse to tell her to stay with that clod, dt

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Absolutely.

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agreed get out of there, protect your self and the kids, and in this twisted world it isnt just the men that are abusers, dt