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Ron 07-17-2008 01:18 PM

Canadian Soldiers In Afghanistan
 
These are Leopard Tanks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rab8c...eature=related

This is some of the clean ones I can post.
They have a bunch of them where they are fighting but the language is very graphic.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sL4nl78hB50
In this video a fallen soldier comes home.
We have lost almost 90 soldiers since we went into Afghanistan in '02.

There are about 2,500 troops in Afghanistan that is the largest contingent of NATO forces there.

We are carrying the load.

StillStanding 07-17-2008 01:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron (Post 533354)
There are about 2,500 troops in Afghanistan that is the largest contingent of NATO forces there.

We are carrying the load.

Thanks Canada for protecting the world! :)

Ron 07-17-2008 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Pianoman (Post 533362)
Thanks Canada for protecting the world! :)

Well in Afghanistan we are.
The US I hear is supposed to send more troops there.
The thing is, half our troops are overseas already, mostly in Peacekeeping roles
in Cyprus, Golan heights, Lebanon, stc.

tstew 07-17-2008 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron (Post 533372)
Well in Afghanistan we are.
The US I hear is supposed to send more troops there.
The thing is, half our troops are overseas already, mostly in Peacekeeping roles
in Cyprus, Golan heights, Lebanon, stc.

I do hope that we do focus on Afghanistan more too. Has there been really high Canadian casualties there recently like our casualties over there?

Ron 07-17-2008 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by tstew (Post 533377)
I do hope that we do focus on Afghanistan more too. Has there been really high Canadian casualties there recently like our casualties over there?

80 deaths compared to 2,500 troops there.

tstew 07-17-2008 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron (Post 533378)
80 deaths compared to 2,500 troops there.

I guess they just hate us more.

Baron1710 07-17-2008 01:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron (Post 533354)
There are about 2,500 troops in Afghanistan that is the largest contingent of NATO forces there.

We are carrying the load.

Congrats on sending less than 10% of the U.S. numbers.

Carrying the load??

The deployment will keep U.S. troop level at about 27,000

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapc...ops/index.html

Ron 07-17-2008 01:38 PM

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We should have a larger Armed Forces but after years of neglect under our worst Prime Minister ever Pierre Trudeau, we are slowly building them up.

We recently built a whole lot of frigates that are based in the Persian Gulf along with destroyers.

We just bought a bunch of those Hercules? heavy lift planes.
We bought some Leopard Tanks, armored personal carriers.
We are looking at getting some Amphibious troop carriers.

I personally think that we should double our personnel in the armed forces.
We should get some shortened version of the Aircraft Carriers like Britain & Australia have.

JMHO

Ron 07-17-2008 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by tstew (Post 533382)
I guess they just hate us more.

That & there is a much larger troop commitment in Iraq 150,000 plus.
So naturally your casualty list will be proportionately bigger.

tstew 07-17-2008 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron (Post 533387)
That & there is a much larger troop commitment in Iraq 150, 000 plus.

No, I believe I heard recntly that our losses in Afghanistan were now passing our losses in Iraq

Ron 07-17-2008 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Baron1710 (Post 533383)
Congrats on sending less than 10% of the U.S. numbers.

Carrying the load??

In Afghanistan we were, I understand the US is sending more.
In Afghanistan it was Canadians in the fighting zone, not the Brits, not the Aussies, the Dutch, or the Italians.



The deployment will keep U.S. troop level at about 27,000

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapc...ops/index.html

:whistle

Ron 07-17-2008 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by tstew (Post 533390)
No, I believe I heard recntly that our losses in Afghanistan were now passing our losses in Iraq

Really?
Where?

Baron1710 07-17-2008 01:46 PM

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As of July 12, 2008, there have been 811 coalition deaths in Afghanistan as part of ongoing coalition operations (Operation Enduring Freedom and International Security Assistance Force (ISAF)): 476 American, 110 British, 87 Canadian, 25 German, 23 Spanish, 16 Dutch, 14 Danish, 12 French, 12 Italian, 7 Romanian, 6 Australian, 5 Polish, 3 Czech, 3 Estonian, 3 Norwegian, 2 Hungarian, 2 Portuguese, 2 Swedish, 1 Finnish, 1 Lithuanian, 1 South Korean.

Ron 07-17-2008 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Baron1710 (Post 533396)
As of July 12, 2008, there have been 811 coalition deaths in Afghanistan as part of ongoing coalition operations (Operation Enduring Freedom and International Security Assistance Force (ISAF)): 476 American, 110 British, 87 Canadian, 25 German, 23 Spanish, 16 Dutch, 14 Danish, 12 French, 12 Italian, 7 Romanian, 6 Australian, 5 Polish, 3 Czech, 3 Estonian, 3 Norwegian, 2 Hungarian, 2 Portuguese, 2 Swedish, 1 Finnish, 1 Lithuanian, 1 South Korean.

Baron, I am not disputing those figures but where did you get them?

Baron1710 07-17-2008 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron (Post 533391)
:whistle

Ron we are keeping the number at 27,000 not increasing it to. The new troops are replacing those leaving.

tstew 07-17-2008 01:50 PM

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Since May, the deaths of U.S. and allied troops have far outpaced the toll in Iraq. On Thursday, the toll in Afghanistan was 21 compared to six in Iraq. The International Security Assistance Force did not provide the nationality of a soldier who died in Afghanistan on Thursday

tstew 07-17-2008 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by tstew (Post 533404)
Since May, the deaths of U.S. and allied troops have far outpaced the toll in Iraq. On Thursday, the toll in Afghanistan was 21 compared to six in Iraq. The International Security Assistance Force did not provide the nationality of a soldier who died in Afghanistan on Thursday

So far in July, there has been 15 killed in Afghanistan and 3 in Iraq

Baron1710 07-17-2008 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron (Post 533399)
Baron, I am not disputing those figures but where did you get them?

That was off of wikipedia, however they can be compared to this site which has them in tables.

http://www.icasualties.org/oef/
Country Total
Australia 6
Canada 87
Czech 3
Denmark 14
Estonia 3
Finland 1
France 12
Germany 25
Hungary 2
Italy 12
Lithuania 1
NATO 1
Netherlands 16
Norway 3
Poland 5
Portugal 2
Romania 7
South Korea 1
Spain 23
Sweden 2
UK 110
US 556
Total 892

Ron 07-17-2008 01:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tstew (Post 533404)
Since May, the deaths of U.S. and allied troops have far outpaced the toll in Iraq. On Thursday, the toll in Afghanistan was 21 compared to six in Iraq. The International Security Assistance Force did not provide the nationality of a soldier who died in Afghanistan on Thursday

It was a US Soldier from Fort Bragg killed today.

tstew 07-17-2008 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron (Post 533420)
It was a US Soldier from Fort Bragg killed today.

Oh, I had just copied that paragraph out of a recent article. I'm not sure how much of it I could have posted without getting in trouble.

Ron 07-17-2008 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Baron1710 (Post 533409)
That was off of wikipedia, however they can be compared to this site which has them in tables.

http://www.icasualties.org/oef/
Country Total
Australia 6
Canada 87
Czech 3
Denmark 14
Estonia 3
Finland 1
France 12
Germany 25
Hungary 2
Italy 12
Lithuania 1
NATO 1
Netherlands 16
Norway 3
Poland 5
Portugal 2
Romania 7
South Korea 1
Spain 23
Sweden 2
UK 110
US 556
Total 892

Thank you. I do not dispute those figures, the Canadian one is accurate.
I do dispute the source though, I have seen the UPC be called a cult at Wikapedia.

It doesn't have a lot of credibility in my eyes.

Ron 07-17-2008 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by tstew (Post 533423)
Oh, I had just copied that paragraph out of a recent article. I'm not sure how much of it I could have posted without getting in trouble.

No problem.
Thanks for the info.

Baron1710 07-17-2008 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron (Post 533426)
Thank you. I do not dispute those figures, the Canadian one is accurate.
I do dispute the source though, I have seen the UPC be called a cult at Wikapedia.

It doesn't have a lot of credibility in my eyes.

No wikipedia isn't a good source it was just easier to copy, since the numbers were close.

I didn't see if you caught that I added in another source.

http://www.icasualties.org/oef/

Ron 07-17-2008 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Baron1710 (Post 533435)
No wikipedia isn't a good source it was just easier to copy, since the numbers were close.

I didn't see if you caught that I added in another source.

http://www.icasualties.org/oef/

No I didn't see that.
Thanks.


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