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KimberlyS 07-18-2008 09:08 PM

Interesting Article from a Conservative Apostolic
 
Regarding Bro. Scott Graham:
http://concernedconservativeapostolic.blogspot.com/

SDG 07-18-2008 09:13 PM

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Pretty interesting ...

I know he's the darling right now at JP!!!

I don't think this exchange happened there considering his links to it ...

Must've been CAF or Wordshare ...

Could be wrong ...

That's par for the course when you preach those messages ...

The Holiness police come out and eat their own.

SDG 07-18-2008 09:15 PM

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More evidence that the anti-ministry bashing campaigns of some is false pretense.


rgcraig 07-18-2008 09:16 PM

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Sad.

And they say AFF is bad?

SDG 07-18-2008 09:17 PM

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This is what preachers post when there on the Mount ...

Quote:

Bro. Graham's family has problems. One of his sisters married Eddie Couples, now charismatic; another sister is also backslidden with her husband; his mom and dad attend Eddie Couples' church in TN. There are many other factors that I could catalogue, but this sampling should give some idea of where we have come from.”
Sickening. It's a glorified HEN HOUSE

rgcraig 07-18-2008 09:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 535342)
This is what preachers post when their on the Mount ...



Sickening.

They misspelled Cupples!

SDG 07-18-2008 09:19 PM

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These men wouldn't know Holiness if it slapped them upside the head.

Ron 07-18-2008 09:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 535342)
This is what preachers post when there on the Mount ...

Sickening. It's a glorified HEN HOUSE

Dan, now that is Hypocrisy of the worst sort & you should know it!
You do more to stir up things than any Conservative could.

RandyWayne 07-18-2008 09:20 PM

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Thanks for posting that link. It was quite entertaining. After all, all one can do is laugh at the antics of a bunch of old foggies who are trying to out-holiness each other.

Quote:

Bro. FRB (Kansas) “Hmmm, checked out the website, and the picture that greet me is a woman with something barely more than cap sleeves on...”

Bro. JP (Kansas) “The websight is very revealing. Thank you for posting it.”
My goodness, is this guy staring at the picture and measuring how much cleavage is showing??? Does the UPC have an official "breast inspector" now? I thought that was only something Homer Simpson and Al Bundy professed to do.....

Ron 07-18-2008 09:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 535346)
These men wouldn't know Holiness if it slapped them upside the head.

I know a few who would't know truth if it bit them in the nose.

SDG 07-18-2008 09:21 PM

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In summation, I leave you with the comments of Bro. KN (Missouri) to his fellow posters on this forum: “Brethren, there was no call for launching a personal attack on Bro. Scott Graham. Mockery is not holiness. Scorn is not holiness. Smearing a man who's not on here to defend him is not holiness. Does it do any harm that he preached holiness? Was anybody damaged by the message of holiness that was preached? Did he say anything that violated Scripture? Why do we feel compelled to discredit and destroy? I hope everyone who has been big enough to talk about him behind his back is big enough to apologize to his face. I don't believe the Lord is pleased.”

Yep.

rgcraig 07-18-2008 09:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron (Post 535347)
Dan, now that is Hypocrisy of the worst sort & you should know it!
You do more to stir up things than any Conservative could.

Ron, don't look now, but DA's on your side on this one.

Rico 07-18-2008 09:23 PM

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Isn't Eddie Cupples Sister Sherri's husband? Why is that kind of junk even being allowed to be posted here?

Ron 07-18-2008 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 535351)
Ron, don't look now, but DA's on your side on this one.

He is???

Then have him post something positive & uplifting & if he wants to post divisive issues, go to Syndifalos.

Isn't it enough that he has his own forum?

Cindy 07-18-2008 09:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KimberlyS (Post 535331)

I am very sad to read some of those comments.

SDG 07-18-2008 09:24 PM

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The agenda of these men has always been disfellowship.

You can't win ... you preach Holiness as they see it and it's still not enough.

It's why fragmentation will continue to occur.

I think it's hopeless.

SDG 07-18-2008 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ron (Post 535354)
he is???

Then have him post something positive & uplifting & if he wants to post divisive issues, go to syndifalos.

isn't it enough that he has his own forum?


What does this have to do w/ the price of chicken in Afghanistan????!!!!

I don't own Syna-D ... for the umpteenth time.

rgcraig 07-18-2008 09:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron (Post 535354)
He is???

Then have him post something positive & uplifting & if he wants to post divisive issues, go to Syndifalos.

Isn't it enough that he has his own forum?

So you think the link in the first post is okay?

DA is saying it's sickening - - it is - - did you even read it?

RandyWayne 07-18-2008 09:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 535357)
The agenda of these men has always been disfellowship.

You can't win ... you preach Holiness as they see it and it's still not enough.

It's why fragmentation will continue to occur.

I think it's hopeless.

You see to what extremes it is taken... Click on this link, then that, then that.... and there is a guy with a mustache. egads

Carpenter 07-18-2008 09:26 PM

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Nice Ron, you justify the spewing by calling out someone being just as bad? It makes you both wrong.

Sadly, I have sat directly in conversation with ultracons who have said pretty much this exact same thing just interchange the name of Mr. Graham (Notice he didn't say brother).

Men with the attitude below vomit then men gather around to eat the vomit and then vomit the vomit so they can eat it again...

Quote:

Bro. JP (Kansas): “Excuse me.....I never knew Mr. Graham to be conservative?????????????? Oh....I see.....he wasn't conservative in the old days; but, since the dresses got shorter, TV was allowed, and the queers have come out of the closet, he's all of a sudden conservative......MAKES ME WANT TO PUKE! Meow

SDG 07-18-2008 09:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 535359)
So you think the link in the first post is okay?

DA is saying it's sickening - - it is - - did you even read it?

No it's about Dan ... put away the tomatoes, Ron.

rrford 07-18-2008 09:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 535340)
Sad.

And they say AFF is bad?

Well now, that is an interesting question. Should we judge the answer by the responses given on this thread as it progresses? After all, slamming men that slam men still seems wrong scripturally to me. But hey, I am UPC...:whistle

SDG 07-18-2008 09:28 PM

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Queers out of the closet???

Sheesh.

SDG 07-18-2008 09:29 PM

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It's no wonder they want their own thing ...



Cindy 07-18-2008 09:29 PM

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I just really dislike those one post posters.

rgcraig 07-18-2008 09:29 PM

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Okay, let's just bury our heads in the sand and think everything is just hunky dory!

pelathais 07-18-2008 09:29 PM

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I almost want to say that Scott gets what he deserves here... but that isn't right either. I haven't heard the message so I can't really speak to its particulars. But that won't stop us from speaking in generalalities here.0

The good folks of the UPC need to be aware of the hypersensitivity to the "damage control" that those on the extreme are criticizing. Whenever they attempt to placate the extremists, the extremists will always bite them back. The answer should be - "Later" to the extremists.

Holiness is an essential part of the Christian life. It should be preached without compromise and without fear and waffling. But, IMHO, real Bible holiness has nothing to do with the sight of a woman's elbow that "greeted" me when I looked up Scott's church's web site. These CAF guys desperately need to get a life.

SDG 07-18-2008 09:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pelathais (Post 535371)
I almost want to say that Scott gets what he deserves here... but that isn't right either. I haven't heard the message so I can't really speak to its particulars. But that won't stop us from speaking in generalalities here.0

The good folks of the UPC need to be aware of the hypersensitivity to the "damage control" that those on the extreme are criticizing. Whenever they attempt to placate the extremists, the extremists will always bite them back. The answer should be - "Later" to the extremists.

Holiness is an essential part of the Christian life. It should be preached without compromise and without fear and waffling. But, IMHO, real Bible holiness has nothing to do with the sight of a woman's elbow that "greeted" me when I looked up Scott's church's web site. These CAF guys desperately need to get a life.

It's lose-lose w/ them ... no one ever measures up ... NO ONE.



pelathais 07-18-2008 09:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 535342)
This is what preachers post when there on the Mount ...

Sickening. It's a glorified HEN HOUSE

Ever see what hens do in their own drinking water? "Hen house" is an apt description for these guys.

RandyWayne 07-18-2008 09:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rrford (Post 535363)
Well now, that is an interesting question. Should we judge the answer by the responses given on this thread as it progresses? After all, slamming men that slam men still seems wrong scripturally to me. But hey, I am UPC...:whistle

Hey, I initially said it was just an entertaining article. LOL

A very tiny group of people thinking they are so much more relevant than they really are.... are devouring their own.

RandyWayne 07-18-2008 09:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pelathais (Post 535371)
I almost want to say that Scott gets what he deserves here... but that isn't right either. I haven't heard the message so I can't really speak to its particulars. But that won't stop us from speaking in generalalities here.0

The good folks of the UPC need to be aware of the hypersensitivity to the "damage control" that those on the extreme are criticizing. Whenever they attempt to placate the extremists, the extremists will always bite them back. The answer should be - "Later" to the extremists.

Holiness is an essential part of the Christian life. It should be preached without compromise and without fear and waffling. But, IMHO, real Bible holiness has nothing to do with the sight of a woman's elbow that "greeted" me when I looked up Scott's church's web site. These CAF guys desperately need to get a life.

Some good advice that Rush has been giving our President for the past 8 years concerning the Left in this country.

rrford 07-18-2008 09:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 535370)
Okay, let's just bury our heads in the sand and think everything is just hunky dory!

Ah, see? That is not what I meant at all. Go figure...

Understanding the reality of the wrong of men that lashed out in this case will never give me the right to do what I condemn them for. Is that really hard to understand or just unpalatable because it takes away the opportunity to criticize a conservative?

BTW, keep in mind that I am advocating mere Christianity on both sides of the fence. Obviously it was violated on that Forum. (Isn't there some kind of guideline here about posting things from other Forums? Just asking as I really cannot recall.)

Carpenter 07-18-2008 09:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rrford (Post 535363)
Well now, that is an interesting question. Should we judge the answer by the responses given on this thread as it progresses? After all, slamming men that slam men still seems wrong scripturally to me. But hey, I am UPC...:whistle

Wait a minute here, in this situation you cannot separate the man from the attitude. I will stand against attitudes but when those attitudes are spewed by small minded, foul mouthed so called Holy Ghost filled men, I will slam them because they are the embodiment of the attitude or spirit.

Cindy 07-18-2008 09:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rrford (Post 535363)
Well now, that is an interesting question. Should we judge the answer by the responses given on this thread as it progresses? After all, slamming men that slam men still seems wrong scripturally to me. But hey, I am UPC...:whistle


Boy, you just get right to it dontcha? :D

pelathais 07-18-2008 09:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rrford (Post 535363)
Well now, that is an interesting question. Should we judge the answer by the responses given on this thread as it progresses? After all, slamming men that slam men still seems wrong scripturally to me. But hey, I am UPC...:whistle

Your moral equivalence fails to work. Calling these guy's discussion a "hen house" isn't morally equivalent to their charges of "queers" and such.

rgcraig 07-18-2008 09:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Carpenter (Post 535381)
Wait a minute here, in this situation you cannot separate the man from the attitude. I will stand against attitudes but when those attitudes are spewed by small minded, foul mouthed so called Holy Ghost filled men, I will slam them because they are the embodiment of the attitude or spirit.

This is where I see the difference - the attitude.

rgcraig 07-18-2008 09:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rrford (Post 535380)
Ah, see? That is not what I meant at all. Go figure...

Understanding the reality of the wrong of men that lashed out in this case will never give me the right to do what I condemn them for. Is that really hard to understand or just unpalatable because it takes away the opportunity to criticize a conservative?

BTW, keep in mind that I am advocating mere Christianity on both sides of the fence. Obviously it was violated on that Forum. (Isn't there some kind of guideline here about posting things from other Forums? Just asking as I really cannot recall.)

Is that a closed forum?

rrford 07-18-2008 09:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Carpenter (Post 535381)
Wait a minute here, in this situation you cannot separate the man from the attitude. I will stand against attitudes but when those attitudes are spewed by small minded, foul mouthed so called Holy Ghost filled men, I will slam them because they are the embodiment of the attitude or spirit.

Hmmm, sorry. We will have to agree to disagree on that one. IMO true Christianity does not allow for that perspective. It does allow for the ones speaking such things to be confronted personally. Not via an internet Forum by people who are really not confronting them at all.

I say all of this in light of the fact that I regularly address issues, not individuals. A good practice in ForumLand, IMO.

Carpenter 07-18-2008 09:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rrford (Post 535380)
Ah, see? That is not what I meant at all. Go figure...

Understanding the reality of the wrong of men that lashed out in this case will never give me the right to do what I condemn them for. Is that really hard to understand or just unpalatable because it takes away the opportunity to criticize a conservative?

BTW, keep in mind that I am advocating mere Christianity on both sides of the fence. Obviously it was violated on that Forum. (Isn't there some kind of guideline here about posting things from other Forums? Just asking as I really cannot recall.)

I would be careful calling these individuals conservatives, for there are several conservative men of honor and dignity that I could never ever imagine them having this evil righteous indignation, I would call this conservanazism.

SDG 07-18-2008 09:37 PM

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One reaps what they sow ...

The worst comments came from his first cousin.


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