~Simon the Sorcerer & One-Steppers~
 

Acts 8


5) Then Philip went down to the city of Samaria, and preached Christ unto them.


12) But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.


13) Then Simon himself believed also: and when he was baptized, he continued with Philip, and wondered, beholding the miracles and signs which were done.



It's disturbing that Simon the Sorcerer (witch) understood salvation, yet a one-stepper can't comprehend it. Perhaps they would understand if they converted to a wicca? :snapout


The scripture reads Simon preached "Jesus" and "things concerning the kingdom of God", and then the crowds and Simon were baptized.

Water baptism is always accompanied when preaching "Jesus" and "things concerning the kingdom of God", just as it was plainly illustrated by Philip in Samaria.

kinda strange you one-steppers don't see baptism equally important as repentance. If baptism is qualified as "a thing" concerning the kingdom, and part of preaching "Jesus", you're two steps near salvation.


So much for just believing after repentance that you're saved! What a bunch of hogwash!

If you're preaching the same gospel Philip preached, Jesus name water baptism is always mandatory after the those hearing have believed.

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Wow, I guess you got me as well as the rest of the leaders in church history. You win. Thanks for this wonderful revelation.

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You're welcome.


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:ursofunny :ursofunny

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I knew all you are after is money!! :D

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Oh boy ... more ... you believe baptism is optional hogwash ...

The pattern is clear .... in Acts believers were baptized.

This type of posting is disingenuous.

Discussing things of the Kingdom include loving your neighbor but doing so doesnt cause salvation.

Try again.

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Another similar occurence......but it gets even better.

This is a must read for all one-steppers



35 Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus.

36) And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?

37) And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.

38) And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.

39) And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing.




Philip attached himself to the eunuch preached Jesus. The euunuch then states what does hinder me from being baptized? Of course eunuch learned about baptism while preaching Jesus.....but wait...it gets better....


Notice what Philip tells the Eunuch "If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest."


Philip told the Eunuch ONLY IF YOU BELIEVE WITH ALL YOUR HEART you can get baptized.

Well one-steppers, there goes your theology out the window. If you believe with all your heart, you must be baptized. Just believing wasn't enough!

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Daniel, if a man dies without Holy Ghost infilling, and is repentant and has been baptized in Jesus name, according to the scriptures, is he saved?

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I Cor,

If a man lies to large groups of people about his education and refuses to repent, is he saved?

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It's a shame I removed my disclaimer.

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To bad he didn't speak in tongues. I guess he went to hell anyway.

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The scripture doesn't say whether is spoke in tongues at that moment or later.

But I have enough faith that Philip preached the complete plan of salvation.


What's funny is you can quote any scripture stating your saved after only repentance, or can you?

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Isn't this what you try to nail other people over, assuming things that aren't in scripture?

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In both instances we find the following:

1) Baptism is concerning the kingdom of God
2) Baptism is mandatory when preaching Jesus
3) After believers heard the Gospel they were immediately baptized
4) Baptism is practiced when you believe with all your heart

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A person dying after they've repented in a plane crash and entering heaven isn't scriptural either, yet you one steppers love to use it.

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Which disclaimer is that? The nothing I say is trustworthy one?

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Baron, I'm still waiting for you to post scripture stating otherwise from what I posted.

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Nanana, I know you are, but what am I:tease

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The Scriptures you posted state other wise. You have enough faith to believe, whereas I simply read what it says.

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Give me one scripture that defends one-step theology.

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I'm still awaiting your answer. When you have enough courage to preach what you believe, I'll be waiting.

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ACTS 16:30-31
And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?

And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.


Romans 10:9
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

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Michael,

There's one word in both those scriptures that stand out, "Believe." What's involved in believing (remember the Eunuch, he had to believe too)?

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Go ahead and add to the scriptures, I kind of figured you would...........you asked for scripture, I posted them, word for word.

What next?

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Mark 16:16 (KJV)
16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned

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Now we have one scripture to support the 2-step theory.

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E Tu Brute?

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Michael...it's a logical question. What is it I must believe to be saved and please rmeember the Eunuch.


Please explain your scriptures.

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You've just admitted your one-step theory is wrong, thanks.

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Here are a few . . .

Acts 2:21And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.

Acts 16:31And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and
shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt
be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Acts 3:19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out,when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord.

Acts 11:18 When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.

2 Corinthians 7:10For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented
of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death.

Galatians 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no
flesh be justified.

Titus 2:11For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,

Acts 15:11But we believe that through the grace of the LORD Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.

Romans 3:24Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that
is in Christ Jesus:

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Delta,

Please answer what involves "believing." When answering, please remember the Eunuch had to also BELIEVE with all his heart to get baptized.

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That's easy, if one believes, they will do what the eunuch did because they have responded to the gospel that was preached.

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You are correct....ding....ding...ding....ding......

Bob, please tell Bro. Eastman what he has won !!!!!!!

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Somone was messing with my words and I could no longer correct them. So here's the correction in red!

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You have a serious issue of not taking responsibility for your posts. I suppose someone else claimed you had those degrees too?

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Give it a rest already! :snapout:crazy:whistle

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That's all you have, pure assumptions and insults. One day when you read the bible, maybe then you'll be able to answer my question.

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Blah.

Blah, blah

Blah, blah. blah.

Puke, vomit, regurgitate.


Whew!

I just posted more substance than anyone else on this thread.

lol

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You're a funny man! Have you thought about stand up comedy?

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:laffatu