America's last Days
 

America's Last Days

America now appears to be at a major crossroads in its history. according to this minister, Unless America deeply repents before God, the blessings
on America and the British-descended peoples will soon come to an end.

A presentation by Dr. Roderick C. Meredith and the Living
Church of God.

Part-1 http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=0VW_sMP- qz8

Part-2 http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=eoSxYGueNTs

Part-3 http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=1jAaMEYqU0Q



What do you think ?

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Where are the black copters????

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I was just outside and saw them leave the White House...

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Mark, that guy was ordained by Herbert W. Armstrong.
You've got way too much time on your hands...

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There is another guy with a book Gods final Witness by Ronal Weinland. He makes some arrogant claims to being THE prophet, and God is killing his enemies....

Is he an Armstrong person also? I really don't know his backgroud. When I read his demi-god-like statements I complely lost interest in reading anything else in the book.

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I agree with u Mark. If america donesn't get back to living for God, we'll have more hurricanes, tornados, fires, and more. Do u think God's wrath will only be on those of british decent, or will it be others? I'm only half british. :praying

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why would God single this country out? It's not like the U.S. was ordained by God to be a holy nation of priests and kings.:crazy


ARPH:doggyrun

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i beleive that we are in trouble, if we do not turn from our wicked ways and seek his face, i will tell you we better quit sleeping and awake children of God, and see what God has for us, good post mark

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bunch of huey is what I say.

America is more christian than any other nation. America is more moral than any developed nation.

Why hasnt God blased France of the map? or Belgium? or Germany? or any other country that allows nudity on its regular airwaves, and who are vastly more open to sinfullness than the USA?

God's judgement has always been when the "cup of iniquity is FULL"

Come on people no nation in this world today has the moral standard that the United States of America has NO NATION.

Are we slidding towards sinfullness? Yep. sure are. some day we will be there. But remember what happened when God judged Israel, the Prophet didnt even know there was a single other believer in the whole country!

How about some perspective people?

was "IT" all over for America in 1929?

please

God has judged this nation 1 time in the past and that was for the sin of slavery and 600,000 AMERICANS died.

believe me, if God is going to judge this nation, it will be swift and devistating and over something worthy of his wrath.

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i think part of your statement is wrong i think we are in trouble, there is to much sin going on, i dont care about other countries i am talking just in general of sin, it is getting no better everywhere, just look around you can almost taste it, and you can smell it, it is bad no matter what and Gods wrath will be devestating when it comes thats why i said we need to be ready no matter what

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I just posted the below on my Wilkerson thread. It speaks for itself.


The current mess in the American Economy is caused by two things: housing, and price of oil.
I found this quote in a book of his I bought years ago. It was Americas Last Call written in 1996. I believe DW is writing about the current housing fiasco.

Here is what Wilkerson wrote:

“All the multiplied thousands who’ve had not time for God---who’ve laughed at moral standards and made wealth their idol, who’ve leveraged their homes to raise more money to gamble with stocks—are going to lose their savings, their homes, their fine cars and furniture. Many will try to declare bankruptcy. Indeed, this is happening already, even in these so-called good times, before the real panic comes. Last year alone, 1.3 million individual Americans declared bankruptcy. And soon there will be such a glut of people filing for bankruptcy, the federal government will have to pass legislation to stop the financial hemorrhaging.
I believe that in the not-too-distant future, almost every block on America’s streets will be lined with “For Sale” signs in front of homes. There will be sellers only, and very few buyers. The housing market will collapse --- and we could witness in our nation what happened to Japan, Indonesia and other nations of the Pacific Rim. There may be a 70 to 80 percent devaluation in real estate --- and a rush to liquidate everything to raise cash. Just as happened in Indonesia, we’ll see used $100,000 Mercedes Benz cars selling for less than $20,000. Banks and mortgage companies will be stuck with billions of dollars’ worth of property they can’t unload. As Jeremiah prophesies, “Their houses shall be turned unto others….” (6:12).”

No one--in 96--was predicting HPA to devalue. Never since the great depression have home prices declined. The first week of July mortgage applications were at a 7 year low. In the last 6-9 months we barely escaped a full collasp of the banking system, the FDIC predicts 200-250 banks will fail in the next year, JP Morgan CEO said, "prime (mortgages) are terrible...and we are at the beginning of our loss curve...", credit had never been so tight.

Wilkerson was right on.....

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I agree that we need to be ready. but we would need to be ready if it was 1880 at the hight of the Golden Age.

as for the times, L4H, take a look in a history book, America has never been more than 20 years from a war, nor 30 years from a resession.

we are 8 years from the last economic down turn, its time for such again.

the world is quite dangerous. we have begun a phase of war with Islam. This is the new cold war. and its going to get bad I suspect.

This might even be the beginning of the end of days... that is possible, but a lot of people thought the cold war was too... it wasnt.

If it is the beginning of the end of days, that isnt the judgements of God against America.

im rambling. suffice it to say, I do not believe we are about to be distroyed by God.

I could be wrong.... but if I am its because Ive heard this song and dance my entire life. and in 38 years of living and being Apostolic, I aint seen it yet.

come to think of it, I could give you a list of preachers down thru the ages going back to the revolution who have suggested such and they have all been wrong. so.... I aint buying it this time either.

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time will certainly tell....

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You probably shouldn't be a missionary. :whistle

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I like what Carp said the other day--when I asked why Sodom was destroyed. I expected him to say something else...LOL, and he said, "Because God couldn't find even 10 good men in the city.."

It isn't the presence of evil that brings judgment from God, so much as a shortage of the righteous.

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the Bible says we do not know time or day when his coming is here, but it all comes down to be just ready to get out of this old vile world, i am sure alot of people cannot wait to get out of here,

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Well, I agree that we should all be ready, but I think one of our problems in the Apostolic church (and maybe others, although I have no first hand experience) is that we've convinced ourselves that this world is so bad, and heaven is so good, that we can't even enjoy life while we're here!

We have a lot of sour Christians who are miserable with the life they have, so instead of changing it, they look to the heavens and anxiously await their escape.

Just my humble opinion........

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well there is no reason to say that- but i do know that outside of America, is bad, i sure dont live outside of the U.S. but i know there are lot of people in trouble, japan, china, africa, etc, i know, it is bad, but i was talking about america, where i live, it was just a statement, i sure know Gods judgement is falling outside of america too, to much stuff is going on that alot of us do not even know about,

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i hear what you are saying, i am not looking for an escape because if i was i would just kill myself and get it over with, i live a good life down here on earth and i make the best of it but i will not live it without God. I worry about my children and other situations, thats the reason why we all want to get out of here, but sin will not change it will be here for the long hall until we are caught up

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It's interesting that so many seem to think that America is in the middle of God's universe........

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I think it has. That is the whole point of the post. Congress did pass BK reform laws. It is much more diffacult to file now than years past. Housing has turned down. Some areas of the country are down 45% by Case-schiller index. We have dipped about 15%-20% across the 150 MSA. The CEO of Wells Fargo predicts at least another 10% decline. The CEO of Chase Home Lending said, "I am afraid to say, but at least 15% more." He went on to say, "housing will get a lot worse before it gets better."

Point is that everyone is saying it now. But in 96, Wilkerson was a lone voice. I really hope that God has mercy and allows the economy to turn around after the election. But few realize how near we were to a full banking collasp when Bernake (Fed Chariman) made the midnight phone call to Diamon (JPM CEO) and arranged the Bear Sterns buyout.
So many things economically that are happening now---HAVE NEVER HAPPENDED BEFORE--this economy/possible recession cannot be compared to any previous!

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Wilkerson was not a lone voice. Actually there have been several that have been warning of the same thing before him. He's just the most popular.

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I think some folk in Dallas would take issue. in 1985 we had a housing meltdown like nobodys business.

I remember double diget inflation in the 70''s AND double digit interest rates.

I have studied the great depression and I think anyone who lived thru that would consider it far worse.

somewhere around 1890 JP Morgan saved America from a complete banking collapse.

I dont agree that we are at a place we have never been before. there are surely some very bad things going on in our economy but there are also some other things that indicate some areas of stability.

its a mixed bag to say the least but the fact that it is mixed means there is some good....


and even if things do fall and fall hard, we have seen that happen too.

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pick any 5 year period in American History and i bet we can find one.


question. if California falls into the ocean, will we look for the most recent "prophet" who called for it and say he was right?


NOT ME.

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Its something aint it?

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As one of Scot-Irish and Bohemian descent (with a wee bit of Norman blood) I'd personally like for the Limeys to get wot's comin' to 'em. Been struttin' around in their khakis and pith helmets long enough, I tell you wot Bob.

I say 'urricanes for Cornwall and send some Moorish slavers back as well. 'ow 'bout an earthquake in Trafalgar - be the best way to clean up that cesspool of East Ender "boys" and their MP's. http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...ons/icon10.gif

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Where ever we are is the most important place on earth.

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which is why I try to spend as little time there as possible! LOL!

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i am favored by God and i know where ever i am at he will take care of me, no worries

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now that there is something I can appreciate. we are his children, the flock of his pasture.

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You and RD make some good points. I conceed to sevaral.
When I said Wilkeson was the loan voice, I meant that he was the only one who was specifically predicting a nationwide housing downturn. There may have been some economists doing the same, but I don't recall any.

I remember your regional housing issues in TX. It was bad. And the legislation that followed has lessened the effect to TX homeowners from the current crisis. The current economic crises is unique in that since the depression we do not have HPA. Since the depression foreclosures are at record rates. Housing at record lows and oil price being at record highs has formed a perfect storm. Oil price driving inflation and the devaluation of the dollar. Yes, the depression was far worse than were we are now, but we have to go back to the depression to find comparison to the stats that we hear almost daily. A few months ago ecomomists were going back to other housing slumps in the 90's and 80's for comparison stats--this ecomomy has blown those out of the water.

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But you still wear a seat belt, I hope. And if, peradventure, statistics should catch up with you - do we blame God for not taking care of you? Or do we blame you for having some "secret sin" that you had failed to confess causing that cement truck to lose its brakes?

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i think most economists would tell you that the stagflation of the 1970s was worse than what we see today.

the economic reality is that we have yet to have a single negitive quarter. it takes 2 of those to make even a small resession.

Bro, as bad as the oil prices are, It IS driving innovation. We are litterally on the verge of a MAJOR technological shift, the likes of which havent been seen since Henry Fords mass production model.

that kind of innovation drives HUGE economic advancement. We have issues. but we have had bigger issues before.

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no i do not blame God but i do have to say that i will not test God, and i would not blame God, i have had many sicknessess. and God has brought me thru it all. but i was just saying that he said in the Bible that we need not to worry about what we are going to eat or what we are going to wear, and i do not have any secret sin in my life, and if i get sick again than i will ask for healing. and if he does not heal me, than however the Lord takes me is how he will take me, but i do n ot have a proud spirit about that, and if it seemed as though i did, please forgive me

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Technology is coming to the rescue. I have always thought that the standard hybrid car was a bit of a joke considering how much they saved versus their cost, and even cost to produce by the manufacturer. But there is a new breed of hybrid just about to hit called the plug-in. THIS is the true game changer and the future of how everyone will be driving in a decade or two. The plug-in can also be easily charged by sources of electricity that are not constant, such as solar and wind, much more acceptably then the normal home.

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It is God who allows empires and strong nations to rise, and to fall in due time. America has been a virtual empire for a long time. Those days seem to be coming to a close.

It seems evident that China and the European Union are on track to become the world's next superpowers.

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It appears that way but truth is we don't know...yet.

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One word: ABORTION!

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I actually agree.

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2 words: Homosexual "Marriage".