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Dr. Vaughn 07-25-2008 04:37 PM

Obama's private prayer leaked
 
http://www.time.com/time/world/artic...0.html?cnn=yes

I am probably as anti-Obama as you can get.... However, as wrong as it was for this prayer to be published.. it definitely shows me another side of Obamas personal mindset.

Still voting for McCain though.. unfortunately it's the only choice I have

Rico 07-25-2008 04:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn (Post 544931)
http://www.time.com/time/world/artic...0.html?cnn=yes

I am probably as anti-Obama as you can get.... However, as wrong as it was for this prayer to be published.. it definitely shows me another side of Obamas personal mindset.

Still voting for McCain though.. unfortunately it's the only choice I have

Brother, Obama is not this evil person so many people want to make him out to be. BTW, how can you be voting for McCain? Isn't he double married? :D

Jermyn Davidson 07-25-2008 04:43 PM

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how is voting for mccain the only choice you have when there are at least 2 other candidates running, not including obama?

vote your conviction-- if mccain isn't it, vote for Barr or even McKinney.

but mccain needs no one's vote with reservations. either u want him or u don't.

StillStanding 07-25-2008 04:43 PM

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Nice prayer!

Jermyn Davidson 07-25-2008 04:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rico (Post 544938)
Brother, Obama is not this evil person so many people want to make him out to be. BTW, how can you be voting for McCain? Isn't he double married? :D

if he votes for someone "double married" he is supporting divorce. You agree with divorce as it is God's righteous way of doing things.

Go McCain! Let divorces increase!!!

CC1 07-25-2008 04:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn (Post 544931)
http://www.time.com/time/world/artic...0.html?cnn=yes

I am probably as anti-Obama as you can get.... However, as wrong as it was for this prayer to be published.. it definitely shows me another side of Obamas personal mindset.

Still voting for McCain though.. unfortunately it's the only choice I have

Or it shows that he is sharp enough to know that somebody was going to pick up hat piece of paper and make it public!

Rico 07-25-2008 04:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1399 (Post 544942)
if he votes for someone "double married" he is supporting divorce. You agree with divorce as it is God's righteous way of doing things.

Go McCain! Let divorces increase!!!

Yes. If you vote for a man who is divorced that means you wholeheartedly believe in and endorse divorce!! :D

Old Paths 07-25-2008 04:53 PM

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On hotel stationary, he penned the following prayer, according to Maariv, which ran a photo of the note: "Lord, protect my family and me," Obama wrote. "Forgive me my sins and help me guard against pride and despair. Give me the wisdom to do what is right and just. And make me an instrument of your will."


Evidently thought it out, not a spontaneous prayer, looks like he wrote it at the hotel.

Old Paths 07-25-2008 04:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rico (Post 544949)
Yes. If you vote for a man who is divorced that means you wholeheartedly believe in and endorse divorce!! :D



Sorta like supporting a church where the pastor performs marriage ceremony for divorced people.

Jermyn Davidson 07-25-2008 04:57 PM

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you guys are something else-

as if that widely circulated poster with bush, cheney and powell sitting at the table as if they were about to pray was "authentic".

oh yes, cheney is definitely a man of much prayer!!!!


but we second guess a private prayer placed at a site that was not supposed to be tampered with by anyone, let alone released to the media, as something for the media.....


puhleeeze!

Rico 07-25-2008 04:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 544948)
Or it shows that he is sharp enough to know that somebody was going to pick up hat piece of paper and make it public!

Oh, ok, I get it. This was some cleverly executed plan, whereby Obama would go to the wailing wall, pretend to be praying to God, when he's secretly a Muslim, leave his prayer there, with the understanding that a secret operative would take the message and leak it to the media, all in the hopes that it would help sway American Christians into voting for him?

CC1, talk about a conspiracy! Listen, your son bought a black CAR, not helicopter!! I know it's easy to get confused when you get older, and seeing that black CAR, not helicopter, has you paranoid right now about secret goings on, but I believe I can safely say this wasn't a staged stunt to manipulate you into voting for Obama, ok?

Rico 07-25-2008 04:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1399 (Post 544958)
you guys are something else-

as if that widely circulated poster with bush, cheney and powell sitting at the table as if they were about to pray was "authentic".

oh yes, cheney is definitely a man of much prayer!!!!


but we second guess a private prayer placed at a site that was not supposed to be tampered with by anyone, let alone released to the media, as something for the media.....


puhleeeze!

It's a conspiracy I tell ya!!!!

CC1 07-25-2008 05:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rico (Post 544960)
Oh, ok, I get it. This was some cleverly executed plan, whereby Obama would go to the wailing wall, pretend to be praying to God, when he's secretly a Muslim, leave his prayer there, with the understanding that a secret operative would take the message and leak it to the media, all in the hopes that it would help sway American Christians into voting for him?

CC1, talk about a conspiracy! Listen, your son bought a black CAR, not helicopter!! I know it's easy to get confused when you get older, and seeing that black CAR, not helicopter, has you paranoid right now about secret goings on, but I believe I can safely say this wasn't a staged stunt to manipulate you into voting for Obama, ok?

No conspiracy theory here. I am just saying if he has half a brain he knew there was a good chance a reporter or someone was going to retrieve that piece of paper.

It doesn't make him evil. Anyone in his position would know that and probably make sure they took that into consideration with what they wrote.

Dr. Vaughn 07-25-2008 05:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rico (Post 544938)
Brother, Obama is not this evil person so many people want to make him out to be. BTW, how can you be voting for McCain? Isn't he double married? :D

LOL,, thank God I am not voting morals here.. I am voting Conservative.. well.. he's not really a conservative but more so than the "O" is

Dr. Vaughn 07-25-2008 05:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rico (Post 544960)
Oh, ok, I get it. This was some cleverly executed plan, whereby Obama would go to the wailing wall, pretend to be praying to God, when he's secretly a Muslim, leave his prayer there, with the understanding that a secret operative would take the message and leak it to the media, all in the hopes that it would help sway American Christians into voting for him?

CC1, talk about a conspiracy! Listen, your son bought a black CAR, not helicopter!! I know it's easy to get confused when you get older, and seeing that black CAR, not helicopter, has you paranoid right now about secret goings on, but I believe I can safely say this wasn't a staged stunt to manipulate you into voting for Obama, ok?

We finally join forces on something... Truly this man never intended for this to happen.. I will give him Kudos where he deserves it....

Rico 07-25-2008 05:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn (Post 544969)
LOL,, thank God I am not voting morals here.. I am voting Conservative.. well.. he's not really a conservative but more so than the "O" is

But Brother, the guy is an adulterer. He cheated on the woman who stuck it out with him when he was a POW. He divorced his wife, married the woman he had been fooling around with, and then used her money to get into politics. The guy's a slimeball. 1399 started a thread about it. :D

Dr. Vaughn 07-25-2008 05:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rico (Post 544983)
But Brother, the guy is an adulterer. He cheated on the woman who stuck it out with him when he was a POW. He divorced his wife, married the woman he had been fooling around with, and then used her money to get into politics. The guy's a slimeball. 1399 started a thread about it. :D

So RICO... are you now seeing the light here??? Are you per chance beginning to see how horrible Remarriage is?
lol,, just kidding

Truth is.. As an American I am torn.... if I MUST VOTE for someone.. I couldn't vote for OBAMA for Morals... he's for every abomonation that GOD HATES... so now I am forced to vote for the lesser of the two evils

Rico 07-25-2008 05:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn (Post 544995)
So RICO... are you now seeing the light here??? Are you per chance beginning to see how horrible Remarriage is?
lol,, just kidding

Truth is.. As an American I am torn.... if I MUST VOTE for someone.. I couldn't vote for OBAMA for Morals... he's for every abomonation that GOD HATES... so now I am forced to vote for the lesser of the two evils

You have no proof that Obama wears mixed fabrics! :D

tstew 07-25-2008 05:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn (Post 544995)
So RICO... are you now seeing the light here??? Are you per chance beginning to see how horrible Remarriage is?
lol,, just kidding

Truth is.. As an American I am torn.... if I MUST VOTE for someone.. I couldn't vote for OBAMA for Morals... he's for every abomonation that GOD HATES... so now I am forced to vote for the lesser of the two evils

So far it appears that this may as well be McCain's campaign slogan.:evilglee

BrotherEastman 07-25-2008 06:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rico (Post 544983)
But Brother, the guy is an adulterer. He cheated on the woman who stuck it out with him when he was a POW. He divorced his wife, married the woman he had been fooling around with, and then used her money to get into politics. The guy's a slimeball. 1399 started a thread about it. :D

How can a POW cheat on his wife? I'm not saying he didn't cheat, I just don't see how he could've cheated why he was in a war camp. Got proof?

LUKE2447 07-25-2008 06:06 PM

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yeah right he go it from the wall mmmhhmmm. NOT! Can you say PR stunt! Yeah he just found out later which one etc... uh huh!

BrotherEastman 07-25-2008 06:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LUKE2447 (Post 545066)
yeah right he go it from the wall mmmhhmmm. NOT! Can you say PR stunt! Yeah he just found out later which one etc... uh huh!

It does make one wonder doesn't it? I mean, out of the millions of prayers put into the wall, the student knows exactly which one to pull out. (unless, of course, he pulls out more than one to get it)

RandyWayne 07-25-2008 06:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LUKE2447 (Post 545066)
yeah right he go it from the wall mmmhhmmm. NOT! Can you say PR stunt! Yeah he just found out later which one etc... uh huh!

Unfortunately Obama is not nearly as good at this sort of thing as the great der Schlickmeister was, but the press is also willing to look the other way even more than they did before.

Rico 07-25-2008 06:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman (Post 545062)
How can a POW cheat on his wife? I'm not saying he didn't cheat, I just don't see how he could've cheated why he was in a war camp. Got proof?

Brother Eastman, unless he is a homo, there's no way he could have cheated on his while being a POW. Hello? The cheatin happened after he came home.

BrotherEastman 07-25-2008 06:51 PM

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But you said in your post that he cheated when he was a POW, I was just trying to clarify.

BrotherEastman 07-25-2008 06:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rico (Post 544983)
But Brother, the guy is an adulterer. He cheated on the woman who stuck it out with him when he was a POW. He divorced his wife, married the woman he had been fooling around with, and then used her money to get into politics. The guy's a slimeball. 1399 started a thread about it. :D

This is where the clarity of your post was not so clear.

Sam 07-25-2008 06:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Paths (Post 544956)
Sorta like supporting a church where the pastor performs marriage ceremony for divorced people.

or supporting and/or belonging to an organization which has ministers who have been divorced and remarried.

ChTatum 07-25-2008 07:00 PM

Re: Obama's private prayer leaked
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1399 (Post 544958)
you guys are something else-

as if that widely circulated poster with bush, cheney and powell sitting at the table as if they were about to pray was "authentic".

oh yes, cheney is definitely a man of much prayer!!!!


but we second guess a private prayer placed at a site that was not supposed to be tampered with by anyone, let alone released to the media, as something for the media.....


puhleeeze!

You are either needing oxygen to support your brain cells or an idiot.

Speak in tongues all you want as you vote for a baby killer.

Sam 07-25-2008 07:01 PM

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Speaking of divorce, etc.

The first person (as far as I can think of right now) that Jesus told that He was the Messiah/Christ (John 4:26) was a woman who had had (past tense did not have present tense) 5 husbands and was living with a man who was not her husband. That woman's preaching (or testimony if you don't believe in women preachers) was the cause of a city wide revival of folks believing in Jesus.

Rico 07-25-2008 07:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman (Post 545098)
But you said in your post that he cheated when he was a POW, I was just trying to clarify.

Easty, reread the sentence. Had I worded it this way, "When he was a POW he cheated on the woman who stuck it out with him" it would mean what you think it means. The "when he was a POW" is referring to the timeframe in which she stuck it out with him, not the timeframe in which he was cheating on her.

ChTatum 07-25-2008 07:04 PM

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McCain is not my first choice, but I will NEVER support a democrat.

Rico 07-25-2008 07:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChTatum (Post 545108)
You are either needing oxygen to support your brain cells or an idiot.

Speak in tongues all you want as you vote for a baby killer.

Here we go again. Has Obama's wife ever had an abortion? If not, he isn't guilty of killing any babies. What you're doing is like trying to say anyone who supports gun rights is a murderer.

ChTatum 07-25-2008 07:06 PM

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rico, are you supporting Obama?

ChTatum 07-25-2008 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Rico (Post 545116)
Here we go again. Has Obama's wife ever had an abortion? If not, he isn't guilty of killing any babies. What you're doing is like trying to say anyone who supports gun rights is a murderer.

Apples to oranges.

Don't ever talk to me about Christmas, your credibility is shot. Swallowing a camel and gagging over a gnat.

As to Michelle Obama having had an abortion, I don't know. but Obama's mother should have.

Dr. Vaughn 07-25-2008 07:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rico (Post 544999)
You have no proof that Obama wears mixed fabrics! :D

good... real quick on your feet there, lol

Rico 07-25-2008 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ChTatum (Post 545117)
rico, are you supporting Obama?

I'm not voting for either of them, to be honest with you. I had been having fun playing Obama's advocate here at AFF. Well, at least until we got onto abortion that is.

Rico 07-25-2008 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ChTatum (Post 545121)
Apples to oranges.

Don't ever talk to me about Christmas, your credibility is shot. Swallowing a camel and gagging over a gnat.

As to Michelle Obama having had an abortion, I don't know. but Obama's mother should have.

Your stinkin rotten attitude is doing the same for you, as far as I'm concerned. It would probly be best if you don't post to me and I don't post to you anymore. It's a good thing I decided not to move to GA afterall.

ChTatum 07-25-2008 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Rico (Post 545124)
I'm not voting for either of them, to be honest with you. I had been having fun playing Obama's advocate here at AFF. Well, at least until we got onto abortion that is.

thank goodness you were just playing a role. You had me worried and I jumped.

Haven't been on in awhile, but I am concerned about the direction of socialism under Obama, and greatly concerned over OP's who would dain to vote for him.

Please forgive me.

Rico 07-25-2008 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ChTatum (Post 545129)
thank goodness you were just playing a role. You had me worried and I jumped.

Haven't been on in awhile, but I am concerned about the direction of socialism under Obama, and greatly concerned over OP's who would dain to vote for him.

Please forgive me.

I'm still pro-choice, so my credibility is now shot with you. Let's just part ways and give things a rest for now while I calm down.

ChTatum 07-25-2008 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Rico (Post 545131)
I'm still pro-choice, so my credibility is now shot with you. Let's just part ways and give things a rest for now while I calm down.

Pro-choice? Really?

I am too, but the acceptable choices do not include abortion.


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