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POWERUP 07-25-2008 10:30 PM

The Dark Knight
 
I can't remember which poster it was. But, anyway he was talking about going to see the movie, Journey to the Center of the earth. Great movie. Go see it.

But, The Dark Knight. Let it be. It is not your average comic book movie. Trust me. Last Weekend, me and my lovely bride, on our date night, went to see it. Great Plot, and acting. But, it is very violent, and twisted, and dark.

Hence the name.................The dark Knight

AmazingGrace 07-25-2008 10:31 PM

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My son saw it and said the exact same thing! Not a cool movie at all he said

Evang.Benincasa 07-25-2008 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by POWERUP (Post 545509)
I can't remember which poster it was. But, anyway he was talking about going to see the movie, Journey to the Center of the earth. Great movie. Go see it.

But, The Dark Knight. Let it be. It is not your average comic book movie. Trust me. Last Weekend, me and my lovely bride, on our date night, went to see it. Great Plot, and acting. But, it is very violent, and twisted, and dark.

Hence the name.................The dark Knight

Was it edifying? Did it promote Jesus Christ?

POWERUP 07-25-2008 10:33 PM

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I was planning on carrying my 12 yr. old. No Way!!!!!!

POWERUP 07-25-2008 10:35 PM

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Trust me Rev. It did not edify God, By a long shot.

Nahum 07-25-2008 10:37 PM

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I don't like that twisted junk.

Evang.Benincasa 07-25-2008 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by POWERUP (Post 545518)
Trust me Rev. It did not edify God, By a long shot.

You know what one of the Brothers in the church here brought up that Heath Ledger ( actor who played Joker) died right after the movie.

What are your thoughts on that?

RandyWayne 07-25-2008 10:42 PM

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I want to see it...... "Dark" is not always bad if it was well written, well acted, artistically directed, and action packed!

People don't go into this film expecting to see a high budget version of Pilgrims Progress.

CC1 07-25-2008 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 545527)
You know what one of the Brothers in the church here brought up that Heath Ledger ( actor who played Joker) died right after the movie.

What are your thoughts on that?

Reports at the time of his death from an overdose of prescription medicene was that he had said the role of the joker really affected him. That he had trouble shaking it after the film finished shooting.

Of course he also was a strange duck and I think pretty much regularly abused medication both prescribed and otherwise (he was a pothead).

Very sad situation. He was a talented young actor who I greatly enjoyed in "The Patriot" where he played Mel Gibson's son.

RandyWayne 07-25-2008 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 545527)
You know what one of the Brothers in the church here brought up that Heath Ledger ( actor who played Joker) died right after the movie.

What are your thoughts on that?

Apparently, as an actor, he wanted to capture the Jokers personality fully and it REALLY bothered him, even when the camera's were not rolling. Stories like this are fairly common. Ron Perlman (who currently stars in the Hell Boy movies) played the Predator in the first movie of the same name. He is said to have had major problems playing such an evil alien entity since his normal personality tends to fall in the "gentle" category.

Evang.Benincasa 07-25-2008 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 545533)
Apparently, as an actor, he wanted to capture the Jokers personality fully and it REALLY bothered him, even when the camera's were not rolling. Stories like this are fairly common. Ron Perlman (who currently stars in the Hell Boy movies) played the Predator in the first movie of the same name. He is said to have had major problems playing such an evil alien entity since his normal personality tends to fall in the "gentle" category.


Now think about this, way back I was dealing with a young man who use to go to the graveyard and ask spirits to enter his mind. He said he would do this to deal with pressures of his life.

Another individual who played a game called dungeons and dragons, would role play and become very involved with his character, he ended up almost killing a friend of his.

Would you say that those two actors you mentioned had taken on something bigger than they could handle?

POWERUP 07-25-2008 10:52 PM

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He also starred in Broke Back Mountain. But, I don't believe the movie affected him. Not saying it won't, or will. But we really do need to be careful what goes into our mind.

Nahum 07-25-2008 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 545542)
Now think about this, way back I was dealing with a young man who use to go to the graveyard and ask spirits to enter his mind. He said he would do this to deal with pressures of his life.

Another individual who played a game called dungeons and dragons, would role play and become very invovled with his charecter, he ended up almost killing a friend of his.

Would you say that those two actors you mentioned had taken on something bigger than they could handle?

Bro, I have seen the previews to this film, and it looks demonic.

I think Heath most certainly took on something bigger than himself.

Tragic.

POWERUP 07-25-2008 10:55 PM

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Rev. You could be right. Got to be careful.

Evang.Benincasa 07-25-2008 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by POWERUP (Post 545544)
He also starred in Broke Back Mountain. But, I don't believe the movie affected him. Not saying it won't, or will. But we really do need to be careful what goes into our mind.

Well, since you saw the movie what did you feel from watching it, would you say about someone actually transforming themselves into what you saw before your eyes? What did you think about the character that was played by the actor?

RandyWayne 07-25-2008 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 545542)
Now think about this, way back I was dealing with a young man who use to go to the graveyard and ask spirits to enter his mind. He said he would do this to deal with pressures of his life.

Another individual who played a game called dungeons and dragons, would role play and become very invovled with his charecter, he ended up almost killing a friend of his.

Would you say that those two actors you mentioned had taken on something bigger than they could handle?

I would put those two individuals in two totally different categories -and I would not call either of them acting. The first one is clearly of a spiritual nature and the 2nd is someone who was using a game to try and deal with life. Incidentally, chess has spawned just as much aberrant behavior as D&D. Just look at some of the freaks playing it at the competition level and their anti-social behavior.

Acting, if done well, can be hard! Especially if you are playing a character that goes against your nature! I look at the actors who played the roman soldiers taunting Jesus during the flogging scenes of The Passion. Do you think they slept well at night between takes?

Evang.Benincasa 07-25-2008 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 545559)
I would put those two individuals in two totally different categories -and I would not call either of them acting. The first one is clearly of a spiritual nature and the 2nd is someone who was using a game to try and deal with life. Incidentally, chess has spawned just as much aberrant behavior as D&D. Just look at some of the freaks playing it at the competition level and their anti-social behavior.

Acting, if done well, can be hard! Especially if you are playing a character that goes against your nature! I look at the actors who played the roman soldiers taunting Jesus during the flogging scenes of The Passion. Do you think they slept well at night between takes?

Good point, and I would like to add that I brought those two boys into the discussion because they were both taking something on that was supernatural. Just like an actor who must transform himself and take on a spirit to perform.

The actor who plays Judas, a Roman Solider beating Jesus, or Satan temptinng Jesus, may go through the same changes. So what does an actor really take on when he must transform himself?

RandyWayne 07-25-2008 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 545563)
Good point, and I would like to add that I brought those two boys into the discussion because they were both taking something on that was supernatural. Just like an actor who must transform himself and take on a spirit to perform.

The actor who plays Judas, a Roman Solider beating Jesus, or Satan temptinng Jesus, may go through the same changes. So what does an actor really take on when he must transform himself?

That my friend, is why I am NOT a good actor. LOL

berkeley 07-25-2008 11:16 PM

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I watched the movie this afternoon/evening (it's over 2 hrs). There was a lot of death in it. I would recommend it to anyone who is desensitized to violence. Other than that, it was a great prequel.

Rico 07-25-2008 11:50 PM

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It's definitely not the kind of movie you'd want to take children to go see, even teenagers.

berkeley 07-25-2008 11:50 PM

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I was amazed at how unoffended I was.

U376977 07-25-2008 11:56 PM

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I think they call it "method acting" Where you merge the character into your own personality. Almost becoming that character. And if you lived it 12 hours a day for months while filming I can see why losing your own identity would be an easy thing to do.

U376977 07-26-2008 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by POWERUP (Post 545544)
He also starred in Broke Back Mountain. But, I don't believe the movie affected him. Not saying it won't, or will. But we really do need to be careful what goes into our mind.

Not sure about this? I heard Jake (Heaths lover in the movie) say that he was uncomfortable performing the gay sex scenes and that he definately did not have such proclivities. But Heath said that he felt good that he could show this kind of sex in a positive light. Not saying that he was gay--but that he did not have seem to have the same problems getting into character that Jake had.

Rico 07-26-2008 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Berkeley (Post 545608)
I was amazed at how unoffended I was.

Why? Should you have been offended?

berkeley 07-26-2008 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Rico (Post 545637)
Why? Should you have been offended?

The violence in the movie should have at least made me feel uncomfortable. I used to have a conscience..

Rico 07-26-2008 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Berkeley (Post 545649)
The violence in the movie should have at least made me feel uncomfortable. I used to have a conscience..

Why should it make you feel uncomfortable? It wasn't real, Bro. It was just a movie. It's good to be able to separate fact from fiction. Nothing in that movie was real except the acting. A movie like that doesn't bother me a bit. However, the video I've seen of people being beheaded in Iraq still haunts me.

berkeley 07-26-2008 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Rico (Post 545663)
Why should it make you feel uncomfortable? It wasn't real, Bro. It was just a movie. It's good to be able to separate fact from fiction. Nothing in that movie was real except the acting. A movie like that doesn't bother me a bit. However, the video I've seen of people being beheaded in Iraq still haunts me.

Ultra con in me... but, some things are just not wholesome.:snapout


It was a great movie... :ursofunny

Praxeas 07-26-2008 12:48 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by POWERUP (Post 545509)
I can't remember which poster it was. But, anyway he was talking about going to see the movie, Journey to the Center of the earth. Great movie. Go see it.

But, The Dark Knight. Let it be. It is not your average comic book movie. Trust me. Last Weekend, me and my lovely bride, on our date night, went to see it. Great Plot, and acting. But, it is very violent, and twisted, and dark.

Hence the name.................The dark Knight

That is the way Batman is supposed to be. Bruce Wayne is supposed to be a brooding, dark vigilante and his foes really are supposed to be psychotic criminals

Praxeas 07-26-2008 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Berkeley (Post 545574)
I watched the movie this afternoon/evening (it's over 2 hrs). There was a lot of death in it. I would recommend it to anyone who is desensitized to violence. Other than that, it was a great prequel.

It's not a prequel. It's a sequel

berkeley 07-26-2008 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 545738)
It's not a prequel. It's a sequel

No, it's a prequel.

berkeley 07-26-2008 12:53 AM

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Wait, I'm arguing about it right now with Scott...

Praxeas 07-26-2008 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Berkeley (Post 545740)
No, it's a prequel.

No it is not. If it was being made by the same people with the same plot line etc etc then sure.

This is a totally different Batman from the others you saw. He is different. His persona is different. The criminals are different,

berkeley 07-26-2008 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 545751)
No it is not. If it was being made by the same people with the same plot line etc etc then sure.

This is a totally different Batman from the others you saw. He is different. His persona is different. The criminals are different,

You are right. It's a sequel. LoL. I got confused when they showed the Scarecrow...

Evang.Benincasa 07-26-2008 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Rico (Post 545606)
It's definitely not the kind of movie you'd want to take children to go see, even teenagers.

Wow, that sounds like something JESUS CHRIST would recommend that His church get involved in. If the actors drop dead from performing in that mess, doesn't it seem logical that Apostolic Pentecostal Jesus Name people should avoid that kind of foolishness?

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

Michael Phelps 07-26-2008 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 545751)
No it is not. If it was being made by the same people with the same plot line etc etc then sure.

This is a totally different Batman from the others you saw. He is different. His persona is different. The criminals are different,

Yes, it is a different movie. We went to see it last night, I enjoyed it, but it's very different.

It's not your father's Batman, lol.

Rico 07-26-2008 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 545966)
Wow, that sounds like something JESUS CHRIST would recommend that His church get involved in. If the actors drop dead from performing in that mess, doesn't it seem logical that Apostolic Pentecostal Jesus Name people should avoid that kind of foolishness?

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com


Brother, if you don't want to go see the movie that's your choice. It's just a movie, and I am not afraid of the devil "getting me" because I went to see it. The boogieman is a wimp.

Ferd 07-26-2008 09:08 AM

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if explaining a move includes, "it has dark spiritual undertones"

im OUT.

period.

Michael Phelps 07-26-2008 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 546086)
if explaining a move includes, "it has dark spiritual undertones"

im OUT.

period.

Uh, I never saw any "spiritual" undertones.

The movie promotes a strong theme of doing the right thing, even if it's unpopular.

It has comic book violence, but no gore.

I enjoyed it, and I'm not into the "spiritual/exorcist/gore" type movies.

Jack Shephard 07-26-2008 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 545513)
Was it edifying? Did it promote Jesus Christ?

Does going to a restaruant either?

What a joke

The movie is GREAT!

Jack Shephard 07-26-2008 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 545966)
Wow, that sounds like something JESUS CHRIST would recommend that His church get involved in. If the actors drop dead from performing in that mess, doesn't it seem logical that Apostolic Pentecostal Jesus Name people should avoid that kind of foolishness?

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

The actor, Heath Leger, did not die because he was 'in' the movie. He took the wrong dose of the meds that a Dr.gave him. Nothing tied to the movie AT ALL


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