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the raven 07-28-2008 01:06 AM

New Revelation Discovered About Modesty In Dress
 
There are many that preach against slits of any kind in a woman's dress. Now reveation has come and in order for continuity there are some brethren now preaching against the slits in mens suit jackets....this is amazing and will most probably bring revival to the struggling home missions work...more later!

berkeley 07-28-2008 01:06 AM

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:ursofunny

MissBrattified 07-28-2008 01:10 AM

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Well, this makes perfect sense, since a slit in the back of a jacket can potentially reveal a man's backside for a split second, if he takes extremely long strides, and also turns in an odd sideways direction with each step.

(Disclaimer: The flash of pant-covered hiney will only be seen by children and very, very short people, but this doesn't matter, as they too must be protected from licentious displays of flesh.)

the raven 07-28-2008 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by MissBrattified (Post 548108)
Well, this makes perfect sense, since a slit in the back of a jacket can potentially reveal a man's backside for a split second, if he takes extremely long strides, and also turns in an odd sideways direction with each step.

(Disclaimer: The flash of pant-covered hiney will only be seen by children and very, very short people, but this doesn't matter, as they too must be protected from licentious displays of flesh.)


I think you write the surgeon general warnings on items deemed dangerous...

MissBrattified 07-28-2008 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by the raven (Post 548113)
I think you write the surgeon general warnings on items deemed dangerous...

What? Did I exaggerate the danger? :coffee2

PraiseHymn 07-28-2008 01:20 AM

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Oh boy, are we men going to start wearing black and white again year round because colors are not of God. Oh, and your necktie reminds me of a pimp (in the black apostolic church) so take that off too. Oh boy, let me get my needle and thread out and start sewing the splits up in the back of my suits.

the raven 07-28-2008 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by MissBrattified (Post 548116)
What? Did I exaggerate the danger? :coffee2



I actually think you underestimated the danger. When I talk to my slit hating brethren they assure that the natural inclination for all men is to look at the slit in a womans dress no matter what the length. Since I was told this startling fact I must admit I now look at all women in a dress to see if I am tempted...so far no luck BUT I am sure one day I will find what I am supposed to be looking for.

By stating my personal experience you can see what a brief glance through a shuttered slit in a suit jacket might do to the mind of the vertically challenged. The truth of the matter is that one of superior verticality may even be tempted to stoop to the level of sin aforementioned. You see then how your warning, although well intentioned does not convey the severity of the sin in question.

MissBrattified 07-28-2008 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by the raven (Post 548119)
I actually think you underestimated the danger. When I talk to my slit hating brethren they assure that the natural inclination for all men is to look at the slit in a womans dress no matter what the length. Since I was told this startling fact I must admit I now look at all women in a dress to see if I am tempted...so far no luck BUT I am sure one day I will find what I am supposed to be looking for.

:blink

:toofunny

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By stating my personal experience you can see what a brief glance through a shuttered slit in a suit jacket might do to the mind of the vertically challenged. The truth of the matter is that one of superior verticality may even be tempted to stoop to the level of sin aforementioned. You see then how your warning, although well intentioned does not convey the severity of the sin in question.
I see. :D I will try to do better next time. :toofunny :toofunny

the raven 07-28-2008 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by MissBrattified (Post 548121)
:blink

:toofunny



I see. :D I will try to do better next time. :toofunny :toofunny

Good. Better and best. Lord don't let us rest until our good becomes better and our better becomes best!

the raven 07-28-2008 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by PraiseHymn (Post 548118)
Oh boy, are we men going to start wearing black and white again year round because colors are not of God. Oh, and your necktie reminds me of a pimp (in the black apostolic church) so take that off too. Oh boy, let me get my needle and thread out and start sewing the splits up in the back of my suits.


Brother let me tell you something about those pink and purple ties and Lord help us those queer looking shirts. It is effiminate I tell you! If you wear that type of clothing you need to find yourself a beer and a woman and become a man!!!!

Such were some of you!

Evang.Benincasa 07-28-2008 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by the raven (Post 548104)
There are many that preach against slits of any kind in a woman's dress. Now reveation has come and in order for continuity there are some brethren now preaching against the slits in mens suit jackets....this is amazing and will most probably bring revival to the struggling home missions work...more later!

Slits in jackets are older than slits in skirts.

Hey why don't we just dress like EMO, and get you Liberals to focus on something other than clothes. Don't you chaps have any other focus in life?

Be blessed

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

POWERUP 07-28-2008 08:32 AM

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Hey, laying all jokes aside. And some of you may have heard this already. I asked a very respected pastor and minister about splits, slits, whatever. He told me that skirts that had splits, and that were not at the ankles. Get this............. Were Babalyon Garments!!!!

Now, I'm not the smartest cookie in the jar, nor am I the dumbest brick in the wall. And I am not making this up. He told me all kinds of evils about these kind of skirts. I just stood there with that dumb look on my face. I finally just said. You know, after 35 years in the UPC, 16 of those a licensed minister as Associate Pastor, evangelist, etc.... Got more things to do for God, than running around trying to make a skirt into a devil.

Don't get me wrong. I believe in modesty. But come on now.

Tyk 07-28-2008 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 548169)
Slits in jackets are older than slits in skirts.

Hey why don't we just dress like EMO, and get you Liberals to focus on something other than clothes. Don't you chaps have any other focus in life?

Be blessed

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

If so much focus wasn't on this - we would all be better off - and that's both sides.

For the record |Modesty| , yes - it's essential.

Mans interpretation of modesty - can be very, .... interpretational?( I made that word up!) But attempted to be made a "law".

LUKE2447 07-28-2008 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by the raven (Post 548125)
Brother let me tell you something about those pink and purple ties and Lord help us those queer looking shirts. It is effiminate I tell you! If you wear that type of clothing you need to find yourself a beer and a woman and become a man!!!!

Such were some of you!

Though that is funny. Today there is little distinction and men are being feminized all the time. I see that as a issue.

We went to the mall one day and we took pictures and video to make a point. When we finished with basic editing of the pictures and video we presented it and asked people to tell us if this was a woman or a man. Couldn't do it! It's not like we did much editing to hide faces etc... We also didn't need to really look hard to find examples. We where in and out in 15 minutes and had 65 examples on a slow day when the stores where very slow.

DividedThigh 07-28-2008 09:12 AM

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what a bunch of huey, people allready make a big fuss about slits, and such but on a suit coat, modesty is pleasing to god, and protects men and women, good grief, dt

RandyWayne 07-28-2008 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by LUKE2447 (Post 548210)
Though that is funny. Today there is little distinction and men are being feminized all the time. I see that as a issue.

We went to the mall one day and we took pictures and video to make a point. When we finished with basic editing of the pictures and video we presented it and asked people to tell us if this was a woman or a man. Couldn't do it! It's not like we did much editing to hide faces etc... We also didn't need to really look hard to find examples. We where in and out in 15 minutes and had 65 examples on a slow day when the stores where very slow.

I find it hard to believe you found that many examples where you could not tell the difference, but then I suppose it is possible when additional psychological factors are taken into account.
For instance, it is well documented that people have a more difficult time telling apart others of different ethnic persuasions -to one degree or another, simply because group A is not around group B as much and their brains do not learn what details to pick up on in the others in order to effectively do that.
Could it be that within some Pentecostal circles, people DO have a hard time telling the difference between sexes when the jean skirt and poof are removed from the equation?

LUKE2447 07-28-2008 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 548219)
I find it hard to believe you found that many examples where you could not tell the difference, but then I suppose it is possible when additional psychological factors are taken into account.
For instance, it is well documented that people have a more difficult time telling apart others of different ethnic persuasions -to one degree or another, simply because group A is not around group B as much and their brains do not learn what details to pick up on in the others in order to effectively do that.
Could it be that within some Pentecostal circles, people DO have a hard time telling the difference between sexes when the jean skirt and poof are removed from the equation?


Friend I can go to Walmart and in 30 minutes or so and find almost just as many. Try it! There is no clear distinction in dress for the most part. Feminism has truly for the worse changed the paradigm in which we don't see clear differences anymore.

LUKE2447 07-28-2008 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne;548219
[B
For instance, it is well documented that people have a more difficult time telling apart others of different ethnic persuasions -to one degree or another, simply because group A is not around group B as much and their brains do not learn what details to pick up on in the others in order to effectively do that.
Could it be that within some Pentecostal circles, people DO have a hard time telling the difference between sexes when the jean skirt and poof are removed from the equation?[/B]

also Wayne is we have to get that deep to define distinction then seriously we have a poor view of how to dress properly.

Sam 07-28-2008 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by PraiseHymn (Post 548118)
Oh boy, are we men going to start wearing black and white again year round because colors are not of God. Oh, and your necktie reminds me of a pimp (in the black apostolic church) so take that off too. Oh boy, let me get my needle and thread out and start sewing the splits up in the back of my suits.

a necktie is a cloth necklace and is therefore considered adornment and pride.

RandyWayne 07-28-2008 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by LUKE2447 (Post 548228)
Friend I can go to Walmart and in 30 minutes or so and find almost just as many. Try it! There is no clear distinction in dress for the most part. Feminism has truly for the worse changed the paradigm in which we don't see clear differences anymore.

Are we looking at distinction in dress or not being able to tell if it is a girl or guy?

Also, many will tell you that their IS a distinction in dress. I am not into fashions myself but my wife can tell the difference in womens and mens jeans from a mile away.

LUKE2447 07-28-2008 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 548243)
Are we looking at distinction in dress or not being able to tell if it is a girl or guy?

Also, many will tell you that their IS a distinction in dress. I am not into fashions myself but my wife can tell the difference in womens and mens jeans from a mile away.

Actually both. Dress was the main point but some of the times both. We hid the faces sometimes to not give away do to makeup or whatever.

determined 07-28-2008 09:46 AM

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has anyone ever given thought as to men's pants being sized by waist / in-seam measurements and not women's pants? Women's might be sized as to petite or tall, but --

Never had thought of it until someone mentioned it the other day and the discussion was no where near a religious discussion.

Just thought it was a definite distinction in men/women's attire.

RandyWayne 07-28-2008 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by LUKE2447 (Post 548257)
Actually both. Dress was the main point but some of the times both. We hid the faces sometimes to not give away do to makeup or whatever.

The point is though that any difference becomes apparent to those who are immersed in that environment. If everyone wears jeans (which is nearly the case now) then the difference between men and women (along with obvious physical differences between the two sexes) is much clearer to those in that setting than a group who may be more sheltered and need to see a skirt on one and pants on the other in order to even tell the two apart.

LUKE2447 07-28-2008 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by determined (Post 548272)
has anyone ever given thought as to men's pants being sized by waist / in-seam measurements and not women's pants? Women's might be sized as to petite or tall, but --

Never had thought of it until someone mentioned it the other day and the discussion was no where near a religious discussion.

Just thought it was a definite distinction in men/women's attire.

your joking right?

Jack Shephard 07-28-2008 10:18 AM

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Well they are neither slits or splits in mens suit coats or jackets. They are called vents. There is a difference. Vents are great cause they allow movement. Splits are not great cause they allow movement. Oh wait I sound like an Old Time Oneness Pentecostal. That aint me! In all seriousness if a person preaches against vents in suit jackets whoa be unto him that have a vent!

StillStanding 07-28-2008 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by the raven (Post 548104)
There are many that preach against slits of any kind in a woman's dress. Now reveation has come and in order for continuity there are some brethren now preaching against the slits in mens suit jackets....this is amazing and will most probably bring revival to the struggling home missions work...more later!

When I buy a new suit, I leave the slit in my jacket sewed up. I don't want to be a stumbling block for some woman........or guy! (ewe!) :snapout

RandyWayne 07-28-2008 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Pianoman (Post 548335)
When I buy a new suit, I leave the slit in my jacket sewed up. I don't want to be a stumbling block for some woman........or guy! (ewe!) :snapout

Oh, you sassy man!

StillStanding 07-28-2008 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 548348)
Oh, you sassy man!

:ursofunny:ursofunny

determined 07-28-2008 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by LUKE2447 (Post 548296)
your joking right?

about what?

berkeley 07-28-2008 11:41 AM

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uh, the guy that posted about the devil skirts... what is a Babalyon??

POWERUP 07-28-2008 01:53 PM

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Berkeley,

I don't even have time to begin to explain. In a nutshell................ Lot to do with idolatry, false Gods, etc...

Just do a short study on the garment itself.

Unless you just want to know what a Babylon garment is, the skirt part is a bunch of garbage.

the raven 07-28-2008 01:55 PM

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Babylonian garments are garments worn by Babylonians..very simple and self explanatory!

dizzyde 07-28-2008 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Berkeley (Post 548420)
uh, the guy that posted about the devil skirts... what is a Babalyon??

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Originally Posted by POWERUP (Post 548662)
Berkeley,

I don't even have time to begin to explain. In a nutshell................ Lot to do with idolatry, false Gods, etc...

Just do a short study on the garment itself.

Unless you just want to know what a Babylon garment is, the skirt part is a bunch of garbage.

I think he was referring to the spelling... :whistle

LUKE2447 07-28-2008 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by determined (Post 548359)
about what?


"Just thought it was a definite distinction in men/women's attire"

This is a distinction concerning modesty of women in wearing distinct clothing than men? I hear they are also use a heavier weight of thread in the fabric as well........... :ursofunny (sarcasm)

MissBrattified 07-28-2008 02:04 PM

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What is a Babylonian garment?

Michael Phelps 07-28-2008 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by LUKE2447 (Post 548681)
"Just thought it was a definite distinction in men/women's attire"

This is a distinction concerning modesty of women in wearing distinct clothing than men? I hear they are also use a heavier weight of thread in the fabric as well........... :ursofunny (sarcasm)

Do you believe there is a difference in pants made for women and pants made for men?

the raven 07-28-2008 02:06 PM

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Ever notice that Victoria's Secrets is across from Lane Bryant's and Torrid's for Women.

Consider Lane Bryant's initials = LBS...

POWERUP 07-28-2008 02:09 PM

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I was hoping he was referring to the spelling. So I just went ahead and played dumb. I guess I could have given them a 10 page bible study on it.

Anyway, thanks Raven

MissBrattified 07-28-2008 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by the raven (Post 548686)
Ever notice that Victoria's Secrets is across from Lane Bryant's and Torrid's for Women.

Consider Lane Bryant's initials = LBS...

I don't know what LBS stands for, what Torrid's is, and not all malls have the same store locations! LOL!!!

LUKE2447 07-28-2008 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael Phelps (Post 548684)
Do you believe there is a difference in pants made for women and pants made for men?


Very little and most are very in appropriate they are very tight in the bu# and thigh areas!

Sorry but the.... well our curvature is different so that counts.... doesn't work. As one should not be formed to the curvature in the first place especially on women. Loose, covering, and non form fitting is historically accurate and a proper understanding of the specific word katastolē/apparel in 1 Timothy 2:9


I personaly have no problem with the old style gauchos. As they are almost like a dress and distinct and with a proper top is perfectly acceptable to me. Though some would disagree. Some of new versions of gauchos I would not consider appropriate as even they are tight in certain areas.


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