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the raven 07-28-2008 01:39 AM
Dan to Baresheba
 
Why when preachers reflect on women's clothing that is immodest do they use biblical phrases such as "Dan to Baresheba." Is it because of the implied distance or to sound spiritual?

I once heard Charles Mahaney preach against women in those "Lo and Behold" blouses and women who dye their hair so much they have dandruff in Technicolor.

Of course when using biblical phrases we must be careful to keep everything in proper context lest we become like the preacher who boldly proclaimed that, "Sampson killed 1,000 Philistines with the jawbone of a donkeys ass."

freeatlast 07-28-2008 07:16 AM
Re: Dan to Baresheba
 
I did hear a fellow say once, " I ripped my pants from Dan to Baresheba"

Never was quite surer of the context of his meaning.

Sister Alvear 07-28-2008 08:31 AM
Re: Dan to Baresheba
 
I personally do not care to listen to preachers tha say degrading things and I believe in outward holiness...After over 40 years of experience I can truthfully say most of the preachers I have known that all they talked about was D to B. had other serious problems and by saying that I am not putting down preachers. I am making a general statement...that is USUALLY true...not always.

freeatlast 07-28-2008 09:24 AM
Re: Dan to Baresheba
 
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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear (Post 548193)
I personally do not care to listen to preachers tha say degrading things and I believe in outward holiness...After over 40 years of experience I can truthfully say most of the preachers I have known that all they talked about was D to B. had other serious problems and by saying that I am not putting down preachers. I am making a general statement...that is USUALLY true...not always.
I recall a holiness preacher several years ago. He lambasted the women of our church about not wearing hose.

The next week the police arrested him at a motel, in the company of a "young man".

So according to some of the slippery slope logic I've seen posted here over the years, you might say that this mans "holiness preaching" lead him to homosexuality.

The "Cons" have stated that letting up on holiness preaching leads one down this slippery slope to immorality.

Guess it works both ways, eh?

Mrs. LPW 07-28-2008 09:40 AM
Re: Dan to Baresheba
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by the raven (Post 548128)
Why when preachers reflect on women's clothing that is immodest do they use biblical phrases such as "Dan to Baresheba." Is it because of the implied distance or to sound spiritual?

I once heard Charles Mahaney preach against women in those "Lo and Behold" blouses and women who dye their hair so much they have dandruff in Technicolor.

Of course when using biblical phrases we must be careful to keep everything in proper context lest we become like the preacher who boldly proclaimed that, "Sampson killed 1,000 Philistines with the jawbone of a donkeys ass."
Although I'm not always a fan of these types of remarks in sermons, sometimes they are humerous... like the "Lo and Behold" blouses.. that cracked me up.

Where it might offend someone new in the audience, I would refrain from saying it in a sermon.
But that's just me. I don't want to offend anyone and turn them off before the Lord can get ahold of them.
And I'd probably be too sensitive to that, and not want to preach hard when preaching hard was needed... that's why God didn't call me to preach.

That said, I have so many faults of my own to deal with, I can't pick apart a preacher who says something I wouldn't have said myself.

Sister Alvear 07-28-2008 10:06 AM
Re: Dan to Baresheba
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by freeatlast (Post 548230)
I recall a holiness preacher several years ago. He lambasted the women of our church about not wearing hose.

The next week the police arrested him at a motel, in the company of a "young man".

So according to some of the slippery slope logic I've seen posted here over the years, you might say that this mans "holiness preaching" lead him to homosexuality.

The "Cons" have stated that letting up on holiness preaching leads one down this slippery slope to immorality.

Guess it works both ways, eh?
It usually works like that...sad but true...One of those preached one time for us about wearing hose...I told him I would not translated such foolish stuff...besides our people donīt have bread money let alone money for hose.

If ladies want to wear hose ( I usually do) but hose has nothing to do with holiness...

CC1 07-28-2008 10:11 AM
Re: Dan to Baresheba
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by the raven (Post 548128)
Of course when using biblical phrases we must be careful to keep everything in proper context
Hmmmm.....a novel idea but I doubt it will catch on.

Michael Phelps 07-28-2008 10:13 AM
Re: Dan to Baresheba
 
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Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 548312)
Hmmmm.....a novel idea but I doubt it will catch on.
Too time consuming to have to actually research things and look up meanings.......

COOPER 07-28-2008 10:15 AM
Re: Dan to Baresheba
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by freeatlast (Post 548230)
I recall a holiness preacher several years ago. He lambasted the women of our church about not wearing hose.

The next week the police arrested him at a motel, in the company of a "young man".

So according to some of the slippery slope logic I've seen posted here over the years, you might say that this mans "holiness preaching" lead him to homosexuality.
The "Cons" have stated that letting up on holiness preaching leads one down this slippery slope to immorality.

Guess it works both ways, eh?
:ursofunny

StillStanding 07-28-2008 10:16 AM
Re: Dan to Baresheba
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sister Alvear (Post 548301)
It usually works like that...sad but true...One of those preached one time for us about wearing hose...I told him I would not translated such foolish stuff...besides our people donīt have bread money let alone money for hose.

If ladies want to wear hose ( I usually do) but hose has nothing to do with holiness...
That would be called a "hosiness standard"! :ursofunny

Michael Phelps 07-28-2008 10:19 AM
Re: Dan to Baresheba
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrs. LPW (Post 548261)
Although I'm not always a fan of these types of remarks in sermons, sometimes they are humerous... like the "Lo and Behold" blouses.. that cracked me up.

Where it might offend someone new in the audience, I would refrain from saying it in a sermon.
But that's just me. I don't want to offend anyone and turn them off before the Lord can get ahold of them.
And I'd probably be too sensitive to that, and not want to preach hard when preaching hard was needed... that's why God didn't call me to preach.

That said, I have so many faults of my own to deal with, I can't pick apart a preacher who says something I wouldn't have said myself.
Silly girl! God didn't call you to preach because you're a WOMAN! No girls allowed!:snapout

(Just kidding, the views expressed above are not necessarily those of the poster, but are wholeheartedly espoused by other posters and were included in this announcement as comic relief. Any similarities between this statement and the actual poster of the statement are coincidental and should not be considered serious in the least.)

Sister Alvear 07-28-2008 10:19 AM
Re: Dan to Baresheba
 
quite expensive in Brazil...I have no urge to Americanize my people...

Sister Alvear 07-28-2008 10:21 AM
Re: Dan to Baresheba
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Phelps (Post 548326)
Silly girl! God didn't call you to preach because you're a WOMAN! No girls allowed!:snapout

(Just kidding, the views expressed above are not necessarily those of the poster, but are wholeheartedly espoused by other posters and were included in this announcement as comic relief. Any similarities between this statement and the actual poster of the statement are coincidental and should not be considered serious in the least.)

Come on...girls preach in Brazil...old women too...I am fixing to go teach a Bible lesson RIGHT now...be back in the office after while...

love yoou folks...

CC1 07-28-2008 11:13 AM
Re: Dan to Baresheba
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by freeatlast (Post 548230)
I recall a holiness preacher several years ago. He lambasted the women of our church about not wearing hose.

The next week the police arrested him at a motel, in the company of a "young man".

So according to some of the slippery slope logic I've seen posted here over the years, you might say that this mans "holiness preaching" lead him to homosexuality.

The "Cons" have stated that letting up on holiness preaching leads one down this slippery slope to immorality.

Guess it works both ways, eh?

You are missing the really important question. Did he and that young man have the TV on in that hotel room?:tease

RevDWW 07-28-2008 11:19 AM
Re: Dan to Baresheba
 
D to B means the whole length. Kinda like saying "coast to coast"

CC1 07-28-2008 11:22 AM
Re: Dan to Baresheba
 
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Originally Posted by RevDWW (Post 548391)
D to B means the whole length. Kinda like saying "coast to coast"
So one could also say "From Dan (Alicia) to Steve Epley" and it would mean the same thing?

RevDWW 07-28-2008 11:25 AM
Re: Dan to Baresheba
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 548394)
So one could also say "From Dan (Alicia) to Steve Epley" and it would mean the same thing?
In AFF land I believe it could! :ursofunny

I think there are plenty to the left and right of said two posters, who do not dwell in this land of plenty.


PS. By the way it's Beersheba not Baresheba.


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