Originally Posted by AbundantGrace (Post 552591)

Rhoni,
I really appreciate you giving our side a voice!

1) Not as a rule. However, when a con attempts to criticize my wife for her make-up, jewelry or pants, that will fire me up.

2) No. God looks at their heart, just as He looks at mine.

3) No.

4) In all honesty, after parting ways with my former UC affiliation, I did feel like I needed to flaunt my liberties and show them where I felt they were in error, however today, I try to keep my thoughts on the subject to myself other than when I'm in the pulpit or when specifically asked.

Originally Posted by Rhoni (Post 552577)

Yes, this is about standards.... you can leave if you have had your fill.

I have observed some Liberals are very uncomfortable with Christians (or even non-Christians for that matter) who are more conservaitve than they are themselves.

As a Liberal:

1. Do you feel anger or a rightous indignation when around those with a more conservative lifestyle?

2. Do you feel extremely distracted or irritated when a women in a jean skirt and frizzy hair perm, or a man in a white shirt and tie worships God with you at church?

3. Do you feel it is your duty to tell other other Christians they are wrong and you are right in lifestyle?

4. Are you content to flaunt your liberties in Christ as what is right or do you feel compelled to inform them they are in bondage to legalism and the Law of Moses?

Disclaimer: I dress modestly although I wear jewelry and makeup but never with the attitude of superiority because of my choices.

Blessings, Rhoni

Originally Posted by Pro31:28 (Post 552599)

LOL
no, no, no, and no
they are free to do what will they will, and I applaud them for following their choices!

Originally Posted by Rhoni (Post 552577)

Yes, this is about standards.... you can leave if you have had your fill.

I have observed some Liberals are very uncomfortable with Christians (or even non-Christians for that matter) who are more conservaitve than they are themselves.

As a Liberal:

1. Do you feel anger or a rightous indignation when around those with a more conservative lifestyle?

Originally Posted by Rhoni (Post 552577)

Yes, this is about standards.... you can leave if you have had your fill.

I have observed some Liberals are very uncomfortable with Christians (or even non-Christians for that matter) who are more conservaitve than they are themselves.

As a Liberal:

1. Do you feel anger or a rightous indignation when around those with a more conservative lifestyle?

Originally Posted by Rhoni (Post 552577)

2. Do you feel extremely distracted or irritated when a women in a jean skirt and frizzy hair perm, or a man in a white shirt and tie worships God with you at church?

Originally Posted by Rhoni (Post 552577)

3. Do you feel it is your duty to tell other other Christians they are wrong and you are right in lifestyle?

Originally Posted by Rhoni (Post 552577)

4. Are you content to flaunt your liberties in Christ as what is right or do you feel compelled to inform them they are in bondage to legalism and the Law of Moses?

Originally Posted by Rhoni (Post 552577)

Disclaimer: I dress modestly although I wear jewelry and makeup but never with the attitude of superiority because of my choices.

Blessings, Rhoni

Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 552679)

No to everything listed but yes to one important item NOT listed. That is, I get very agitated when I hear a conservative (usually always a UC) make a statement like "there will be no bobbed haired women in heaven" or something like minded.

Originally Posted by nahkoe (Post 552672)

No. I'm puzzled sometimes, but not angry or indignant. And usually just accept it as their way, their belief, life goes on.



They *would* kind of stand out... But I can't imagine just what they're wearing would be distracting or irritating.



Absolutely not, never.



I just live my life. I don't flaunt my liberties, but I won't wear a dress unless I really have some strange desire to (and I don't OWN any skirts or dresses anymore..it'd be quite an occasion for me to wear one).


I'm here. I dress modestly. I do wear jewelry, sometimes. And makeup, but most don't really notice I'm wearing it even if they're looking for it.

Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 552679)

No to everything listed but yes to one important item NOT listed. That is, I get very agitated when I hear a conservative (usually always a UC) make a statement like "there will be no bobbed haired women in heaven" or something like minded.

Originally Posted by Pro31:28 (Post 552681)

I do need to make a comment here. When I go home (to my home state, I mean), My Grandmother insists I go to church with her. I would never want to break her heart so I go, because the church is much more Con than I consider myself, I make adjustments to my wardrobe in order to "fit in". This is more about making my grandmother comfortable than about me, I would hate for her to be bombarded with questions about her granddaughter on the highway to hell.
So I do make a few changes, and I would never intentionally offend someone. But if they saw me on the street I wouldn't run away :)

Originally Posted by Berkeley (Post 552687)

Their resources say that komao means "to let the hair grow". If that's how they read it, how can you expect anything less?

Originally Posted by Rhoni (Post 552688)

Pro,

This is what I also do. I dress so as not to offend where I am, but sometimes I feel hypocritical, especially if they know I really don't dress that way.

Blessings, Rhoni

Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 552691)

I always shoot back that if it takes that much minutia and attention to detail and research of every single bible verse (filtered through a 1950's lens of course), then NO ONE is going to heaven. NO ONE can follow the law to the degree required to achieve salvation.

Originally Posted by Rhoni (Post 552577)

Yes, this is about standards.... you can leave if you have had your fill.

I have observed some Liberals are very uncomfortable with Christians (or even non-Christians for that matter) who are more conservaitve than they are themselves.

As a Liberal:

1. Do you feel anger or a rightous indignation when around those with a more conservative lifestyle?

2. Do you feel extremely distracted or irritated when a women in a jean skirt and frizzy hair perm, or a man in a white shirt and tie worships God with you at church?

3. Do you feel it is your duty to tell other other Christians they are wrong and you are right in lifestyle?

4. Are you content to flaunt your liberties in Christ as what is right or do you feel compelled to inform them they are in bondage to legalism and the Law of Moses?

Disclaimer: I dress modestly although I wear jewelry and makeup but never with the attitude of superiority because of my choices.

Blessings, Rhoni

Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 552713)

Bless their little hearts!

1. No. Under normal circumstances no problem. When they make Christianity appear foolish by swimming in a skirt, etc then I am sad, embarressed, dismayed, disgruntled, etc.

2. Silly question about the white shirt. Not distracted or irritated by women in jean skirts with frizzy hair.

3. On a personal basis no. I do feel it is my responsbility to do so on a forum like this one. I would never approach someone personally and try to change their views on their dress code.

4. Absurdly worded question along wth lines of "have you stopped beating your wife?". I live Christian values of morality and moderation. I do not seek to offend more conservative people but I don't spend my life worrying about other peoples hyper sensitivity to a dress code and extra biblical standards that have been pounded into their heads. I know some conservative Pentecostals who are so hypersensitive to womens dress codes that they notice a lot of things and take offense at them that I don't even notice because I am not fixated on it.

Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 552736)

Reminds me of a time we all went downhill skiing and the women all wore jean skirts around their snowmobile suits and snow pants. It looked ridiculas.

Originally Posted by Rhoni (Post 552577)

Yes, this is about standards.... you can leave if you have had your fill.

I have observed some Liberals are very uncomfortable with Christians (or even non-Christians for that matter) who are more conservaitve than they are themselves.

As a Liberal:

1. Do you feel anger or a rightous indignation when around those with a more conservative lifestyle?

2. Do you feel extremely distracted or irritated when a women in a jean skirt and frizzy hair perm, or a man in a white shirt and tie worships God with you at church?

3. Do you feel it is your duty to tell other other Christians they are wrong and you are right in lifestyle?

4. Are you content to flaunt your liberties in Christ as what is right or do you feel compelled to inform them they are in bondage to legalism and the Law of Moses?

Disclaimer: I dress modestly although I wear jewelry and makeup but never with the attitude of superiority because of my choices.

Blessings, Rhoni

Originally Posted by Pro31:28 (Post 552681)

I do need to make a comment here. When I go home (to my home state, I mean), My Grandmother insists I go to church with her. I would never want to break her heart so I go, because the church is much more Con than I consider myself, I make adjustments to my wardrobe in order to "fit in". This is more about making my grandmother comfortable than about me, I would hate for her to be bombarded with questions about her granddaughter on the highway to hell.
So I do make a few changes, and I would never intentionally offend someone. But if they saw me on the street I wouldn't run away :)

Originally Posted by Rhoni (Post 552688)

Pro,

This is what I also do. I dress so as not to offend where I am, but sometimes I feel hypocritical, especially if they know I really don't dress that way.

Blessings, Rhoni

Originally Posted by Sassy (Post 552765)

Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 552713)

Bless their little hearts!

1. No. Under normal circumstances no problem. When they make Christianity appear foolish by swimming in a skirt, etc then I am sad, embarressed, dismayed, disgruntled, etc.

2. Silly question about the white shirt. Not distracted or irritated by women in jean skirts with frizzy hair.

3. On a personal basis no. I do feel it is my responsbility to do so on a forum like this one. I would never approach someone personally and try to change their views on their dress code.

4. Absurdly worded question along wth lines of "have you stopped beating your wife?". I live Christian values of morality and moderation. I do not seek to offend more conservative people but I don't spend my life worrying about other peoples hyper sensitivity to a dress code and extra biblical standards that have been pounded into their heads. I know some conservative Pentecostals who are so hypersensitive to womens dress codes that they notice a lot of things and take offense at them that I don't even notice because I am not fixated on it.

Originally Posted by Rhoni (Post 552577)

Yes, this is about standards.... you can leave if you have had your fill.

I have observed some Liberals are very uncomfortable with Christians (or even non-Christians for that matter) who are more conservaitve than they are themselves.

As a Liberal:

1. Do you feel anger or a rightous indignation when around those with a more conservative lifestyle?

2. Do you feel extremely distracted or irritated when a women in a jean skirt and frizzy hair perm, or a man in a white shirt and tie worships God with you at church?

3. Do you feel it is your duty to tell other other Christians they are wrong and you are right in lifestyle?

4. Are you content to flaunt your liberties in Christ as what is right or do you feel compelled to inform them they are in bondage to legalism and the Law of Moses?

Disclaimer: I dress modestly although I wear jewelry and makeup but never with the attitude of superiority because of my choices.

Blessings, Rhoni

Originally Posted by Rhoni (Post 552577)

Yes, this is about standards.... you can leave if you have had your fill.

I have observed some Liberals are very uncomfortable with Christians (or even non-Christians for that matter) who are more conservaitve than they are themselves.

Originally Posted by Rhoni (Post 552577)

As a Liberal:

1. Do you feel anger or a rightous indignation when around those with a more conservative lifestyle?

Originally Posted by Rhoni (Post 552577)

2. Do you feel extremely distracted or irritated when a women in a jean skirt and frizzy hair perm, or a man in a white shirt and tie worships God with you at church?

Originally Posted by Rhoni (Post 552577)

3. Do you feel it is your duty to tell other other Christians they are wrong and you are right in lifestyle?

Originally Posted by Rhoni (Post 552577)

4. Are you content to flaunt your liberties in Christ as what is right or do you feel compelled to inform them they are in bondage to legalism and the Law of Moses?

Originally Posted by Rhoni (Post 552577)

Disclaimer: I dress modestly although I wear jewelry and makeup but never with the attitude of superiority because of my choices.

Blessings, Rhoni

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 552986)

That's because they can't stand for anyone to have any fun. They are perpetual wet blankets.



They feel anger only because Ultra Conservatives are having way more fun than they do.



No, they feel upset because they don't look as good as an Ultra Con in a white shirt and three piece suit. When a liberal worships they sway like Miss America waving at the fans, and they never shout nor can they run the backs of the pews in slick cowboy boots.



Of course it's the Liberals sworn duty to pester good clean Apostolic Holiness people who are just trying to enjoy themselves. Liberals are also very cranky and get very upset when you tell them they are incorrect.



But of course! Every chance they get. It's like waving a red cape in front of a bull.




I don't understand why anyone would think they could look down or be obnoxious because they choose to look, act and dress like every other Joe in America? The road is straight and the door way narrow, it's not made for everybody. Many are called and few are chosen. We need to deal with that.
It's not personal, it's spiritual. It would be grand if everyone would leave the Holiness Apostolics to be the happy fun filled people that God intended them to be. Let the Charismatic do their thing, with all the barking, and slithering under the pews, the bleached and purple hair, and super thick make-up, fake eyelashes, and cheap Cindy Lauper Jewelry.

They call us legalists, so what does that make them? Illegalists?

Lord bless

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

Originally Posted by Rhoni (Post 553021)

Typical conservative, that instead of answering the question for themselves, they answer for/blame the other folks.:club:snapout

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 553097)

Huh? Sister Rhoni, the questions weren't asking the Conservatives to give answers. The questions were for all those cranky no fun Liberals to answer.

Lord bless you.

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

Originally Posted by Rhoni (Post 553021)

Typical conservative, that instead of answering the question for themselves, they answer for/blame the other folks.:club:snapout

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 553097)

Huh? Sister Rhoni, the questions weren't asking the Conservatives to give answers. The questions were for all those cranky no fun Liberals to answer.

Lord bless you.

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

Originally Posted by Sassy (Post 553103)

[B]I know....as a Con I sit here and cringe....[B]

Originally Posted by Carpenter (Post 553106)

I know how you feel...


Thems liberals are doomed!

Originally Posted by Sassy (Post 553110)

Originally Posted by Sherri (Post 553101)

What are you doing over on this thread>??????:tease

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 553120)

I just to put some insight on how those mean Libs are always trying to pick fights with Conservatives. Conservatives are only trying to preach the truth and the Liberals are always complaining. Maybe if they stop long enough to consider that make-up was never supposed to be applied in such thick layers they wouldn't always be so irritable.

Originally Posted by Carpenter (Post 553104)

Cranky? You think the more liberal thinking folks here are cranky? :ursofunny