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Cotton Mather 03-27-2007 10:21 AM

The Television Committee
 
There was a requirement that any potential committee members had to agree to stay with the organization no matter how the vote went.

Brother Travis as the committee moderator.

There are two chairmen.

For the resolution:
Mark Jordan
Anthony Mangun
Mike Williams
Tommy Hudson
Art Hodges

Anti Resolution:
Ron Mullings
TL Craft
Johnny Godair
Gilbert Pearson
Kevin Prince

Brett Prince 03-27-2007 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cotton Mather (Post 53878)
There was a requirement that any potential committee members had to agree to stay with the organization no matter how the vote went.

Brother Travis as the committee moderator.

There are two chairmen.

For the resolution:
Mark Jordan
Anthony Mangun
Mike Williams
Tommy Hudson
Art Hodges

Anti Resolution:
Mullings
TL Kraft
Johnny Godair
Gilbert Pearson
Kevin Prince

Funny. I never heard about that requirement. Makes sense, though, if you ask me. You don't need the committee members voicing veiled threats to leave in their writings.

Cotton Mather 03-27-2007 10:24 AM

Each side will have ten pages in the next Forward magazine to present their case. This Forward will come out next month.

The ministerial survey will ask each licensed minister if they will leave if it passes/fails.

The results of this survey will be published in the last Forward issue before General Conference.

Brett Prince 03-27-2007 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cotton Mather (Post 53886)
Each side will have ten pages in the next Forward magazine to present their case. This Forward will come out next month.

The ministerial survey will ask each licensed minister if they will leave if it passes/fails.

The results of this survey will be published in the last Forward issue before General Conference.

Yes sir. But, IMO, it is a lot of wasted ink and paper.

Cotton Mather 03-27-2007 10:26 AM

We (licensed ministers) are being urged to contact these committee members with our concerns and ideas.

Cotton Mather 03-27-2007 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brett Prince (Post 53889)
Yes sir. But, IMO, it is a lot of wasted ink and paper.


Most had already made up their minds last year.

Brett Prince 03-27-2007 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cotton Mather (Post 53892)
Most had already made up their minds last year.

You are entirely right. It's a little late for persuading.

Cotton Mather 03-27-2007 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brett Prince (Post 53882)
Funny. I never heard about that requirement. Makes sense, though, if you ask me. You don't need the committee members voicing veiled threats to leave in their writings.

There are some big political names missing from this committee. Men that have been very vocal about the issue. I wonder why?

Malvaro 03-27-2007 10:32 AM

TL Craft

Cotton Mather 03-27-2007 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malvaro (Post 53899)
TL Craft

I fixed it. Thanks.

Felicity 03-27-2007 10:34 AM

The whole thing is ridiculous.

Cotton Mather 03-27-2007 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Felicity (Post 53902)
The whole thing is ridiculous.

How so?

SDG 03-27-2007 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brett Prince (Post 53882)
Funny. I never heard about that requirement. Makes sense, though, if you ask me. You don't need the committee members voicing veiled threats to leave in their writings.

Well ... at least we know ... who won't be leaving .... that's a strong commitment ... especially not knowing what will go down in Sept.

NLYP 03-27-2007 10:37 AM

At least they chose good men...Some I know say If it passes they are leaving...because it will lead to a slope to the wolrd.

I am thankful for the men of good name recognition that say they will not leave..

Cotton Mather 03-27-2007 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 53911)
Well ... at least we know ... who won't be leaving .... that's a strong commitment ... especially not knowing what will go down in Sept.

There are a couple of really big anti-resolution names that are missing from this list. They just sent out a book instead.

SDG 03-27-2007 10:40 AM

I am surprised to see AM being so politically vocal ... BOTT now this .... it's somewhat uncharacteristic ...

Are there not risks in taking a public stance on this issue??

NLYP 03-27-2007 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 53917)
I am surprised to see AM being so politically vocal ... BOTT now this .... it's somewhat uncharacteristic ...

Are there not risks in taking a public stance on this issue??

RISKS????
LOLOLOL
I will tell you that AM, My Pastor, is a risk taker and does not really care what anybody thinks, when sould are at stake.

A called him the other day just to tell him how proud of him I was for his comments at BOTT and the nature of his stand and being so vocal..

He IS probably, one of the most respected voices in our org among the younger to middle generations.

slave4him 03-27-2007 10:44 AM

How where these men for each side selected?

Cotton Mather 03-27-2007 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slave4him (Post 53924)
How where these men for each side selected?

I believe Brother Travis, along with input from Brother Haney and the general board.

CC1 03-27-2007 10:50 AM

Perhaps the membership of the committe was limited due to the requirement that they members agreed not to leave the org. if the vote did not go their way.

I would imagine that many people on both sides of the issue would like to leave their options open.

I am rather surprised at AM agreeing but then the older he gets the more conservative I think he gets in some ways.

SDG 03-27-2007 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NLYP (Post 53922)
RISKS????
LOLOLOL
I will tell you that AM, My Pastor, is a risk taker and does not really care what anybody thinks, when sould are at stake.

A called him the other day just to tell him how proud of him I was for his comments at BOTT and the nature of his stand and being so vocal..

He IS probably, one of the most respected voices in our org among the younger to middle generations.

Dan,

I believe he is a risk-taker and a lover of souls ... I love AM ... he's got it DOWN!!!!!!!!

but clearly anyone who takes a position on this ...

especially a different one from established protocol

must have to weigh the advantages vs. the disadvantages of taking such a stand.

SDG 03-27-2007 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 53931)

I am rather surprised at AM agreeing but then the older he gets the more conservative I think he gets in some ways.

That's what I'm saying in regards to to risk ... yes he wants to reach the world ... but he must feel this is going to pass ... or potentially pass ... if he's willing to stake some credibility with the fellowship.

Old Paths 03-27-2007 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cotton Mather (Post 53878)
There was a requirement that any potential committee members had to agree to stay with the organization no matter how the vote went.

Brother Travis as the committee moderator.

There are two chairmen.

For the resolution:
Mark Jordan
Anthony Mangun
Mike Williams
Tommy Hudson
Art Hodges

Anti Resolution:
Ron Mullings
TL Craft
Johnny Godair
Gilbert Pearson
Kevin Prince


As far as a commitment to stay in the org..... those that get out will just say "I change my mind".

SDG 03-27-2007 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Paths (Post 53945)
As far as a commitment to stay in the org..... those that get out will just say "I change my mind".

Do you have any reasons or insights to believe any them would "change their minds" .... I think by making this commitment one would look like a waffler ... and lose some serious church cred .... if you did.

MrsMcD 03-27-2007 11:02 AM

If it doesn't pass, is the organization going to keep trying to get it to pass or will they drop it?

SDG 03-27-2007 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cotton Mather (Post 53916)
There are a couple of really big anti-resolution names that are missing from this list. They just sent out a book instead.

Would you know if any of the authors of the book were asked to sit on the committee?

Cotton Mather 03-27-2007 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 53957)
Would you know if any of the authors of the book were asked to sit on the committee?

No comment.

ChicagoPastor 03-27-2007 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrsMcD (Post 53956)
If it doesn't pass, is the organization going to keep trying to get it to pass or will they drop it?

I would think that after this resolution coming up twice in the last five years, if it doesn't pass this time it will be a long time(10-20years) before it comes up again..if ever.

RevDWW 03-27-2007 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NLYP (Post 53922)
RISKS????
LOLOLOL
I will tell you that AM, My Pastor, is a risk taker and does not really care what anybody thinks, when sould are at stake.

A called him the other day just to tell him how proud of him I was for his comments at BOTT and the nature of his stand and being so vocal..

He IS probably, one of the most respected voices in our org among the younger to middle generations.

Are you attending POA?

ChicagoPastor 03-27-2007 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 53957)
Would you know if any of the authors of the book were asked to sit on the committee?

Bro. Mullings and Bro. Kenny Godair are authors of the book and also on the committee


the other authors are
Larry Booker
Peter Connell
Nathaniel Wilson
and a reprint of an article by the late David Gray

DJElkins 03-27-2007 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChicagoPastor (Post 54070)
I would think that after this resolution coming up twice in the last five years, if it doesn't pass this time it will be a long time(10-20years) before it comes up again..if ever.


It will be a non-issue long before this time frame would elapse. TV and internet are basically merged as one now...

Of course...if TV does go away, I am sure that we will leave all prohibitions in the manual in place...just to make sure in case it ever comes back... :slaphappy

SDG 03-27-2007 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJElkins (Post 54092)
It will be a non-issue long before this time frame would elapse. TV and internet are basically merged as one now...

Of course...if TV does go away, I am sure that we will leave all prohibitions in the manual in place...just to make sure in case it ever comes back... :slaphappy

They should place it right next to the bans on the phonograph and flannel graph.

DJElkins 03-27-2007 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 54096)
They should place it right next to the bans on the phonograph and flannel graph.

Are we not supposed to be using these any longer?????????:uhoh

SDG 03-27-2007 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJElkins (Post 54108)
Are we not supposed to be using these any longer?????????:uhoh

Flannel graphs ARE OLD SKOOL PENTECOST ... God has ordained powerpoints and multimedia as His newly anointed

Esther 03-27-2007 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cotton Mather (Post 53890)
We (licensed ministers) are being urged to contact these committee members with our concerns and ideas.

Tell them to come here and get all kinds of opinions if that is what they need. :)

Cotton Mather 03-27-2007 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Esther (Post 54121)
Tell them to come here and get all kinds of opinions if that is what they need. :)

Good idea.:tiphat

Cotton Mather 03-27-2007 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 53942)
That's what I'm saying in regards to to risk ... yes he wants to reach the world ... but he must feel this is going to pass ... or potentially pass ... if he's willing to stake some credibility with the fellowship.

There was a rumor that he was going to speak on the floor of GC last year, but the issue was never really debated. It was sent to committee instead.

SDG 03-27-2007 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cotton Mather (Post 54214)
There was a rumor that he was going to speak on the floor of GC last year, but the issue was never really debated. It was sent to committee instead.

Will these men on the committee get first dibs to speak at the meeting???

Cotton Mather 03-27-2007 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 54218)
Will these men on the committee get first dibs to speak at the meeting???

I believe they will present their "findings" to the voting consituency.

South of I 90 03-27-2007 04:09 PM

IMO, if it doesn;t pass, some of the members on the committee will go ahead and do what they want and stay in the organization.


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