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gloryseeker 08-04-2008 04:54 PM

Will Smoking Send You To Hell
 
I have never seen any scriptures that deal with the subject of smoking even though there are scriptures that deal with drinking (maybe smoking wasn't around in the Bible days).

Most churches teach that smoking will send you to hell using scriptures that talk about how our bodies are the temple of God and we are to care for our bodies.

In my opinion, you can't take that stand unless you are also going to take a similar stand against other things that destroy this body.

It is a known fact that many types of foods cause diabetes, heart disease, heart attacks, high blood pressure and the like.

What is your opinion on this issue?

AbundantGrace 08-04-2008 05:03 PM

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no!!! Absolutely not!

Rico 08-04-2008 05:21 PM

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Uh BOY! Here we go again! :lol

Baron1710 08-04-2008 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Rico (Post 556639)
Uh BOY! Here we go again! :lol

Light up that big fat Cuban Cigar you been hanging on to, Rico,

Rico 08-04-2008 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Baron1710 (Post 556642)
Light up that big fat Cuban Cigar you been hanging on to, Rico,

Me no likey cigars. However, a friend of mine and I were taking a trip to get a car I had bought off Ebay a few years ago. This was when I was still a smoker. We stopped at a gas station and bought as many different cigars as we could afford. It was just for that trip, and we had a total blast trying out all the different cigars! Neither one of us were interested in smoking cigars after that trip! :lol

Baron1710 08-04-2008 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Rico (Post 556647)
Me no likey cigars. However, a friend of mine and I were taking a trip to get a car I had bought off Ebay a few years ago. This was when I was still a smoker. We stopped at a gas station and bought as many different cigars as we could afford. It was just for that trip, and we had a total blast trying out all the different cigars! Neither one of us were interested in smoking cigars after that trip! :lol

Your first mistake was buying cigars at a gas station.:crazy

Rico 08-04-2008 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Baron1710 (Post 556654)
Your first mistake was buying cigars at a gas station.:crazy

True, but they're cheap that way. The Swisher Sweets weren't too bad. I've never tried a really good cigar. Is there that much of a difference?

Baron1710 08-04-2008 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Rico (Post 556662)
True, but they're cheap that way. The Swisher Sweets weren't too bad. I've never tried a really good cigar. Is there that much of a difference?

Is there a difference in a '76 Datsun and a new BMW?

Rico 08-04-2008 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Baron1710 (Post 556666)
Is there a difference in a '76 Datsun and a new BMW?

OK. Well, send me one of yours and I will try it and let you know how well I liked it. :D

Baron1710 08-04-2008 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Rico (Post 556672)
OK. Well, send me one of yours and I will try it and let you know how well I liked it. :D

First of all I don't have any fine Cigars, If I did I would smoke 'em myself. But there is a JR Cigars across the street, can I pick you up something?

Rico 08-04-2008 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Baron1710 (Post 556683)
First of all I don't have any fine Cigars, If I did I would smoke 'em myself. But there is a JR Cigars across the street, can I pick you up something?

Hehehehehe! No, that's ok. I just thought maybe you had a humidor full of some high quality stogies. We're already lookin at getting roasted for even joking about it. No sense in you going to the store and taking the chance that some high minded defender of all that is true and righteous will see you and report you to the holines police. :D

Baron1710 08-04-2008 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Rico (Post 556688)
Hehehehehe! No, that's ok. I just thought maybe you had a humidor full of some high quality stogies. We're already lookin at getting roasted for even joking about it. No sense in you going to the store and taking the chance that some high minded defender of all that is true and righteous will see you and report you to the holines police. :D

Not yet. I have to get one of those hardwood desks that I can lean back in my chair and put my feet up on while puffing one.

As for the holiness policy, what are they doing in JR Cigars?

Rico 08-04-2008 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Baron1710 (Post 556698)
Not yet. I have to get one of those hardwood desks that I can lean back in my chair and put my feet up on while puffing one.

As for the holiness policy, what are they doing in JR Cigars?

What? What kind of attorney are you? You don't already have your big mahogany desk? Dude, you are way behind the curve! Between all that money you make as a lawyer, and all that dough the wife is pullin in rubbin on people, y'all should have a matching set of monogramed mahogany desks by now. :D

stmatthew 08-04-2008 06:06 PM

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Only if you inhale

OP_Carl 08-04-2008 06:10 PM

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Will Smoking Send You To Hell?
If you're going there already, it'll get you there faster! :lol

AbundantGrace 08-04-2008 06:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rico (Post 556639)
Uh BOY! Here we go again! :lol

No doubt... I'm gonna try to stay away from this thread... I started the same thread last time and I wound up in Banland during that little escapade. :ursofunny I think we beat that horse to death, so I have nothing more to say on the topic that's worth saying. I'll be praying for the strength of the Lord to empower me to remain clear of this thread. :aaa

Rico 08-04-2008 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by AbundantGrace (Post 556762)
No doubt... I'm gonna try to stay away from this thread... I started the same thread last time and I wound up in Banland during that little escapade. :ursofunny I think we beat that horse to death, so I have nothing more to say on the topic that's worth saying. I'll be praying for the strength of the Lord to empower me to remain clear of this thread. :aaa

So far it's been a fun thread. I'm just waiting for PP, Brother Epley, or Old Paths to come along. It should be as much fun as a barrel of monkeys then. LOL!

Baron1710 08-04-2008 06:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rico (Post 556706)
What? What kind of attorney are you? You don't already have your big mahogany desk? Dude, you are way behind the curve! Between all that money you make as a lawyer, and all that dough the wife is pullin in rubbin on people, y'all should have a matching set of monogramed mahogany desks by now. :D

You think she lets me keep anything I make? What she makes is hers and what I make is hers. Don't you know how that works?

gloryseeker 08-04-2008 06:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AbundantGrace (Post 556762)
No doubt... I'm gonna try to stay away from this thread... I started the same thread last time and I wound up in Banland during that little escapade. :ursofunny I think we beat that horse to death, so I have nothing more to say on the topic that's worth saying. I'll be praying for the strength of the Lord to empower me to remain clear of this thread. :aaa

Are you a smok'n Pastor?

LUKE2447 08-04-2008 06:52 PM

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well will MJ send you to hell?

What about cocaine?

What about LSD?

Baron1710 08-04-2008 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by LUKE2447 (Post 556805)
well will MJ send you to hell?

What about cocaine?

What about LSD?

What does Michael Jordan have to do with it?

Pro31:28 08-04-2008 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Rico (Post 556706)
What? What kind of attorney are you? You don't already have your big mahogany desk? Dude, you are way behind the curve! Between all that money you make as a lawyer, and all that dough the wife is pullin in rubbin on people, y'all should have a matching set of monogramed mahogany desks by now. :D



Ok, two issues... on the "all that money comment" my answer is... :ursofunny

And I don't rub people for money anymore, I do that for free. For money, I influence young minds!:evilglee

Pro31:28 08-04-2008 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Baron1710 (Post 556788)
You think she lets me keep anything I make? What she makes is hers and what I make is hers. Don't you know how that works?

ReALLY??? yesssSSSSS!:shockamoo

Praxeas 08-04-2008 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by gloryseeker (Post 556616)
I have never seen any scriptures that deal with the subject of smoking even though there are scriptures that deal with drinking (maybe smoking wasn't around in the Bible days).

Most churches teach that smoking will send you to hell using scriptures that talk about how our bodies are the temple of God and we are to care for our bodies.

In my opinion, you can't take that stand unless you are also going to take a similar stand against other things that destroy this body.

It is a known fact that many types of foods cause diabetes, heart disease, heart attacks, high blood pressure and the like.

What is your opinion on this issue?

How about drugs like crack, is that ok?

Pro31:28 08-04-2008 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 556909)
How about drugs like crack, is that ok?

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r...beaplumber.jpg

Say NO TO CRACK!

Aquila 08-04-2008 08:10 PM

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I don't believe smoking will send one to Hell, but I do think they increase their risk of serious illness. I'd admonish people not to smoke or to smoke only occasionally in the name of health.

And yes...there was such a thing as "smoking" back in Christ's day.

LUKE2447 08-04-2008 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquila (Post 556912)
I don't believe smoking will send one to Hell, but I do think they increase their risk of serious illness. I'd admonish people not to smoke or to smoke only occasionally in the name of health.

And yes...there was such a thing as "smoking" back in Christ's day.


wow what a heart...

LUKE2447 08-04-2008 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Baron1710 (Post 556812)
What does Michael Jordan have to do with it?


still did not answer the Q

Praxeas 08-04-2008 08:15 PM

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what did they smoke in the day of Jesus?

BTW someone answer...can we do drugs like pot or crack and it not being a sin?

LUKE2447 08-04-2008 08:24 PM

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of course PRAX we can abuse this things God gave us called a body and it never be sin. I mean don't you know about grace.

Rico 08-04-2008 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquila (Post 556912)
I don't believe smoking will send one to Hell, but I do think they increase their risk of serious illness. I'd admonish people not to smoke or to smoke only occasionally in the name of health.

And yes...there was such a thing as "smoking" back in Christ's day.

Aquila, if you are talking about one of them Hooka bong looking things, I don't think they were smoking tobacco in those. ;)

AbundantGrace 08-04-2008 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by gloryseeker (Post 556791)
Are you a smok'n Pastor?

:ursofunny:ursofunny:ursofunny:ursofunny

Rico 08-04-2008 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by AbundantGrace (Post 556978)
:ursofunny:ursofunny:ursofunny:ursofunny


I can see it now, Brother. You baptize them and then give 'em one of yer special imported cigars to celebrate the occasion! :lol

AbundantGrace 08-04-2008 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Rico (Post 556980)
I can see it now, Brother. You baptize them and then give 'em one of yer special imported cigars to celebrate the occasion! :lol

Oh, yes. Smoking around the baptismal tank... That way if anyone were to catch something on fire during the celebration, we have plenty of water there to put it out. :ursofunny

Rico 08-04-2008 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by AbundantGrace (Post 556982)
Oh, yes. Smoking around the baptismal tank... That way if anyone were to catch something on fire during the celebration, we have plenty of water there to put it out. :ursofunny

See? That's what I call a multi-purpose baptismal tank. Use it to dunk 'em, then use it to put out any fires that may break out! :ursofunny

Tim Rutledge 08-04-2008 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 556919)
what did they smoke in the day of Jesus?

BTW someone answer...can we do drugs like pot or crack and it not being a sin?

Of course you cannot use these drugs and be right. Nor can you be right using any form of the drug nicotine. And if you believe caffeine is the same as these other drugs then quit your Dew and coffee also.

Carpenter 08-04-2008 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by gloryseeker (Post 556616)
I have never seen any scriptures that deal with the subject of smoking even though there are scriptures that deal with drinking (maybe smoking wasn't around in the Bible days).

Most churches teach that smoking will send you to hell using scriptures that talk about how our bodies are the temple of God and we are to care for our bodies.

In my opinion, you can't take that stand unless you are also going to take a similar stand against other things that destroy this body.

It is a known fact that many types of foods cause diabetes, heart disease, heart attacks, high blood pressure and the like.

What is your opinion on this issue?


Smoking won't send you to hell, despite the fact you will probably be more used to breathing in the sulphur.

I said it before, it is not a "your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit" issue. It is an issue of "Thou shall not have any other Gods before me."

To smokers, cigarettes are your God, and don't tell me you can smoke without becoming addicted to nicotine. It is a scientific impossibility.

Smoking will not send you to hell, but worshiping at the feet of your addiction will.

Rico 08-04-2008 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim Rutledge (Post 556991)
Of course you cannot use these drugs and be right. Nor can you be right using any form of the drug nicotine. And if you believe caffeine is the same as these other drugs then quit your Dew and coffee also.


So, it isn't a sin to use pharmaceutical version of pot and cocaine, but it's a sin to use the natural versions? That makes perfect sense, Brother. NOT! Also, nicotine and caffeine are in the same family of drugs. Guess that means no coffee, tea, soda, or chocolate for anyone who want to be saved.

Rico 08-04-2008 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Carpenter (Post 557001)
Smoking won't send you to hell, despite the fact you will probably be more used to breathing in the sulphur.

I said it before, it is not a "your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit" issue. It is an issue of "Thou shall not have any other Gods before me."

To smokers, cigarettes are your God, and don't tell me you can smoke without becoming addicted to nicotine. It is a scientific impossibility.

Smoking will not send you to hell, but worshiping at the feet of your addiction will.


Actually, I have known several social smokers who didn't get addicted to cigarettes. My first wife is one of the people I am talking about. She would only smoke when she was drinking wine, and never got addicted to the cigarettes.

RandyWayne 08-04-2008 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim Rutledge (Post 556991)
Of course you cannot use these drugs and be right. Nor can you be right using any form of the drug nicotine. And if you believe caffeine is the same as these other drugs then quit your Dew and coffee also.

I.... keep.... trying..... but.... I..... just..... cannot..... !


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