Chinese Charismatics
 

Would you like to be worshipping with them? Count me in!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6I8gnwfHhPw

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Man, I am not sure I'd want to even be there, let alone worship the Lord with them. I can't understand much of anything that's going on and I am not sure God is getting the Glory or not in all of that.

When I see stuff like that happening over here, I have the same reservations.

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Maybe if I had called this thread "Chinese Pentecostals" it would have got more views.

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I wish I could understand what they are saying.

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God relates to different people in different ways...maybe this is all they know?

I would like to know if it is real and where it happened...

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When I see Holy laughter etc... and some of the things on there. I don't want to judge but at the same time. I just don't know!

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is "holy laughter", "slain in the spirit" and the "sprawled and jerking" movements that happen in many Pentecostal/Charismatic churches even Biblical?

I have a hard time justifying anything that I can't readily find support for in the Bible. One of the reasons why I choke on "standards made into salvation" stuff. But I digress.

I miss the order and profound liberty I found while attending UPCI churches which makes stuff like what's in this clip difficult to accept as Christ-ordained.

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guess it makes me glad that we don't have to rely on many of 'us' to justify if something is God ordained or not. Only gotta please HIM and that is all I am worried about.

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Im surprised. I am blessed by this fervency in worship and prayer. It seems far more real than the things I saw in Oneness Churches as far as worship. Notice they dont seem to need a bunch of musical instruments pumping them up?

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1. I don't know that they are even Christian. (partly because of the language barrier)

2. I am not at all sure I would want to experience what they are.

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but you say that because you do not know what they are saying. not based upon what you actually see.
i have seen other churches that do not speak english and being in their presence I can say that I knew what was going on just from the feelings they invoked in me. like a spirit connecting with like spirit.
since I am not in these peoples presence to know how i feel from it I would have to say I agree with you, we may not want to experience what they are but if I go on the assumption that they are worshipping God I would have to say the seem sincere in it.
It would be nice to actually know what is being said though. makes it a lot easier.

I have attended services in Spanish, before I started picking it up better, and i knew from what I felt that they were worshipping God and that they were speaking in tongues, etc etc. I was able to joing the worship freely based on what I was feeling from them not in rather I actually knew what was being said.

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When I hear Halleluyah I know they are worshipping YAH. When I see hands raised to Heaven and tears streaming down faces of praying people calling the name Yesu I assume it is a Christian Assembly.

I had actually thought this would bless people who talk about being on fire for Christ. No one even bears witness with them.

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Sorry to be critical...

I think there is a whole lot of conditioning taking place in many of those gatherings.

Sometimes it's manifest in shockamoo or isle running, in the case of Benny Hinn and AOG it's fainting and getting "slain in the Spirit", and in the case of this video it is the expectation of laying in orderly rows and shivering... or jumping in unision. All of the above may be just fine and dandy, but I am not convinced we can or should take it as a sign of any great spirituality. It is rather easily duplicated and often takes more stamina to resist than it does to simply join in and participate.

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My thinking is the opposite. I hear no music blaring in the background. I see people doing what IMO is a glorious thing. Giving themselves to a very fervent time of worshipping the Creator of Heaven and Earth. In Pentecostal Americanism praising the Lord is seen as the Spirit taking control over you and making you run the aisles. Or "shouting" and snapping the body back and forth. What I see in the video is just praise and prayer to God. Offered enthusiastically. Why they are in the floor I dont know.

Its possible that they are conditioned to worship this way. Maybe if I were there for a while I would feel different about it. But after seeing the Pentecostal Worship here for over 30 years it seems like a breath of fresh air to see such fervency. Also "conditioned" just means "trained" in this context.
I would be happy to see people trained in the Churches to worship Yeshua whole heartedly.

In the 70's I fellowshipped with an Asian group called "The Ceylon Pentecostal Mission". Their worship times were much like what I see in the video minus the people on the floor. Perhaps the memory of that attracts me.