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Why do Pentecostals teach against wearing color.

For example:

1. Make-up

2. Coloring hair

3. Colored nail polish

Is there a scripture to back this teaching up?

Thanks

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Strange to me.........God loves color! He made us all different colors. He could have made the world in all beige, but He chose to color it all colors of the rainbow. I doubt that He's against a little color here and there if it makes a person feel/look better!

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You must be a pathetically bored person!!!! So sad

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I think it's just an attempt to start a fight and give people something for entertainment other than the Dr V threads. :tease

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OUch, my tongue hurts

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No scripture for such beliefs Mischeif maker....where ever did you get such ideas about pentecostals ???

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So if you were a master artist, and your finished creation was painted on a billion different canvas, would you be slapping the back of every wannabe, come-lately that took out a brush and added to your work?

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Wow, I love this post.

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Or covered it up with clothes? Or combed its hair? Or brushed its teeth?:dance

I'm all about honoring God's creation, but He left some stuff up to us to add the finishing touches!

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Oh, *sniff*,:tissue that was so beautiful...
that reminds me, I need to have my highlights touched up!:tease

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You know, it is funny. many of the UPCI churches I have been to, or know of, really don't mind if you wear makeup - you just can't wear color. It is much easier to put a little blush on than pinch your cheeks every few minutes and get a bruise. LOL

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I think a bunch of really tightwad hubbies came together and decide this was their answer to saying money!!!!:ursofunny

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:ursofunny:ursofunny I believe that!:tease

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Does this mean I'm a man hater as well????:evilglee

...;) Carry on!:friend

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I have no clue...I personally love the male species.:roseglasses

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:snapout Me to now that I'm becoming one...:ursofunny

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Are you talking about that "polished" look? :)

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I guess we could all wear beige skin-tone clothing all the time. Except for TStew and he could wear browns.:tease

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Been there - done that. LOL

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HUH?

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It's because a woman's face coloring changes when she's in a state of arousal. The cheeks turn bright pink, and the eyelids darken. They don't want us walking around looking like that all the time.

Of course many women look that way naturally, or from any kind of exertion. But NNOOOOOO...it's all gotta be condemned as it points back to sexuality. :wacko

As far as hair coloring. Everything should be NATURAL...the way God made you. No messing up, or 'fixing' God's creation.

Of course, they forgot the one little eensy-weensy flaw in that plan...it was actually God that created us with the desire to look nice, and be all girly-girly. Women everywhere dress up, color up, curl up. Or if you live in Africa, add those sticks and rings. :heeheehee

So go ahead girlfriends...Get your frill on!!! :girlfriend

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BUT.....have you notice in nature that the male species is always the most colorful or attractive.

Lions - the male lion has the mane - the female doesn't.
Birds - the male are the colorful ones - the female are the plainer ones.

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You know, I wonder if any of them have ever been able to identify the REASON for their aversion to it. However a secular book that was once a best seller called The Naked Ape, a Zoologists study of the human animal, by Desmond Morris, points out quite graphically the reasons that women AND men in various cultures wear makeup, and that in and of itself is an eye opener for ME!

The author of that book who certainly had no religious axe to grind feels that the wearing of makeup, especially around the eyes and the lips and cheeks, is meant to send out a subliminal message that the wearer is sexually aroused and is ready for an encounter. Sure gives new meaning tothe old "I wear it to be attractive" saying.

I feel that the conclusions reached in that book bear some consideration among us. They certainly resonated with me.

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Huh? Can you elaborate on this?

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The Naked Ape looks at humans as a species and compares them to other animals. It depicts human behavior as largely evolved to meet the challenges of prehistoric life as a hunter-gatherer.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Naked_Ape

The foundation is flawed the conclusions are flawed.

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I think it's in humans to be attractive... The standard or idea of being attractive can vary based on culture and conditioning.

Also, i don't think it's a sin in itself, but vanity is. Where is that line drawn? It can also vary imo. God knows the heart, and our hearts can deceive us.

I'd just be careful :)

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You have hit upon a good point. The vanity can come from someone without a stitch of makeup on too!

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Exactly =/ that's why is so hard to say "make up = vanity". Or to draw distinct lines using vanity as reasoning.

In my mind, someone could easily wear make up and not be vain. Just as you said, they could also not wear any and be vain.

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What conclusions dont have some flaws? But over all the fact that this author is NOT approaching the subject from a religious pro or con bias but is merely stating a pretty recognizable fact, one that has been stated here by NON zoologist observers, completely independent of the book ,that when people are sexually aroused their eyes cheeks and lips DO take on a different cast or hue and become flushed, is one that simply cant be argued with as THEY DO! Cosmetics that duplicate that appearance DO send out subliminal messages, and of course that subliminal message being "I am sexually aroused right now...."

Of course we can pretend tha'ts a bunch of nonsense, however the fact remains....it's NOT.

To inform Gods people of that and the message in back of duplicating that sexually aroused appearance is not old fashioned, it is absolutely imperative.

Let me ask you when you see little eight year old girls in public painted up with red lips, flushed cheeks and all kinds of makep on the eyes to draw attention to them...does it bother YOU? I know it bothers many secular people who do NOT have a reservation about makeup. And on a mere surface consideration of WHY it would be the oft stated SECULAR realization that this is SEXUALIZNG children, ergo, the WORLD recognizes that this practice is one that deals with SEXUALITY. Flawed conclusion or the logical one you decide.

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A conclusion that is based on a false premise is a false conclusion.

I have never seen anyone’s eye lashes turn darker or longer, eyelids turn blue or green or whatever color they put on their eyelids, when sexually aroused.

Many of the things you describe that takes place on a persons face when they are aroused is the same thing that happens when they run half a mile. There cheeks get flushed then too.

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The only scripture I can think of that was used for make-up with be Jezebel's painted face.

As to coloring hair and etc. I don't know of any scripture ever used???

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So then you DON'T see the purpose of women wearing makeup to make them attractive but rather to give them the appearance of being joggers.

Well if that helps you avoid the reality in back of the wearing of makeup in order to be attractive to the opposite sex, then I doubt anyone can disuade you.....


But maybe this can

http://www.eliteprobeautycourses.com/makeup_sexy.htm


Who was it, Art Garfunkle or Paul Simon who wrote ...
"Their is none so blind as he who WILL not see...."? Any way for THINKING people I believe this is something that DOES warrant some consideration.

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Who won't see? Ask yourself why a persons face changes when they are aroused? Does this happen at other times other than arousal? If so to say that is the reason makeup is worn is nothing short of nonsense.

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Again, there is none so blind as he who WILL not see. Fortunately for thinking people all we have to do is look to Madison Avenue and find out the PACKAGING of the ads for this stuff to realize first and foremost what you refuse to, it IS a sex issue! It is a product not sold in relationship to Tennis Shoes and sweat sox, but rather in relationship to sexuality.

But as I said , no amount of reality will cause you t see it for what it most plainly is because you do not WISH to.

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More nonsense!! Ever see the Doritos adds that are a blatant appeal to sex? Cars? Even job search websites have appealed to it.

You want it to be about sex...so anyone that disagrees with your assessment is blind.

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Lets see, the almost virtually universal packaging and stated INTENT in back of cosmetics being to make the wearer SEXIER is NONSENSE? You really DO believe that women wear makeup to look like they have just run a marathon????? Who's zoomin who??? And BTW What planet do YOU live on? Bring this discussion back to the reality of the planet EARTH. Cosmetics ARE marketed to make women SEXIER not to make them appear as having just competed in a triathalon.

Countless magazine articles are published EACH MONTH in various magazine with the latest cosmetics and how to apply them so you will appear SEXIER.
IT IS ABOUT SEX. NOT ATHLETICS as you would have us believe.

And then you make the most valid of points...SEX SELLS! It is the tool used as you say for selling everything from Cars to Doritos! Should Gods people emulate this approach in THEIR packaging of themselves? As sexual objects flushed and available RIGHT NOW!

Your real problem seems to be that it bothers you for anyone to point out the OBVIOUS so that each saint of God can consider it themselves and perhaps come to a different conclusion than the one you obviously want them to come to.

Information is NOT scary to those who really want to know the truth on a matter. I put my information out there and there is TONS more on this subject available right here on the internet INCLUDING merely reproducing the cosmetic company ads to show what the real motivation in back of the whole practice is.

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I don't think I want to know... :crazy

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So, when I cover up the huge black circles that I have under my eyes (I hate allergies) it is a sexual thing?? I always thought it was a courtesy to those who have to look at me, and to avoid the questions about whether I have been punched in the eyes.

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You continue to miss the point. I never said it was to make them LOOK athletic. I said the same LOOK that you are claiming they are trying to achieve takes place with excercise as well as sexual arousal.

Their motivation is to sell their product.

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No of course not! But there are other ways to get rid of them, try getting proper sleep and taking an iron supplement. We are not discussing covering up circles under eyes . We are discussing something much different.