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South of I 90 08-20-2008 07:40 PM
Songwriter a Fraud
 
Michael Guglielmucci wrote and sang the new Hillsong hit song "Healer" on the new Hillsong project. He supposedly had terminal cancer. It turns out it was a fraud.

http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/s...006301,00.html

South of I 90 08-20-2008 07:46 PM
Re: Songwriter a Fraud
 
The performance of this song and the testimony was on Youtube with tens of thousands of hits. It has sinced been removed.

Hoovie 08-20-2008 07:59 PM
Re: Songwriter a Fraud
 
We have discussed this video here on AFF sometime ago.

I was a believer...



What a sham!

CC1 08-20-2008 08:19 PM
Re: Songwriter a Fraud
 
Why in the world do people do these things? I guess there are more psycho people in the world than I ever imagined.

Hoovie 08-20-2008 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 571567)
Why in the world do people do these things? I guess there are more psycho people in the world than I ever imagined.
$$$$$$$$$$ & Fame

Praxeas 08-20-2008 08:23 PM
Re: Songwriter a Fraud
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by South of I 90 (Post 571534)
Michael Guglielmucci wrote and sang the new Hillsong hit song "Healer" on the new Hillsong project. He supposedly had terminal cancer. It turns out it was a fraud.

http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/s...006301,00.html
Wow...ANOTHER fraud....just glad this one was not a member of our board. ;)

South of I 90 08-20-2008 08:32 PM
Re: Songwriter a Fraud
 
This song had over 300,000 hits on Youtube. Also with him being the writer, and the number of CD's Hillsong has sold, he has already made many $ from royalties.

It will be interesting to see how Hillsong and Integrity Music handles this issue. Will they re-issue the cd and DVD without the song.

The DVD includes his testimony and behind the scenes footage of him dealing with the "cancer".

The song was rapidly becoming an anthem for deliverence and healing in churches around the world.

steve p 08-20-2008 09:17 PM
Re: Songwriter a Fraud
 
Im very sad tonight,,,,,

soldoutochrist 08-20-2008 09:17 PM
Re: Songwriter a Fraud
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by South of I 90 (Post 571534)
Michael Guglielmucci wrote and sang the new Hillsong hit song "Healer" on the new Hillsong project. He supposedly had terminal cancer. It turns out it was a fraud.

http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/s...006301,00.html
A quick search of the forum turned this up.
http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...ad.php?t=16314
It's sad really, that he'd do something like this. Doesn't change the powerful message of the song, but it does put things in perspective. I wonder if he's actually mentally ill or just getting professional help because it'd be frowned upon if he didn't?

ManOfWord 08-20-2008 09:27 PM
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I just received the CD & DVD and was planning on using the song for a special upcoming healing service. I have folks in NLC who have attended Planet Shakers when they were in Australia. I was touched by this "testimony" and am truly saddened by this tragic news.

This signifies a serious deficit in the lives of some of our "heroes." I am truly bummed. May God have mercy on Mike and grant to him the security in Him that he truly craves and needs to be whole!

Cindy 08-20-2008 09:30 PM
Re: Songwriter a Fraud
 
So he wrote a song about healing, but had never had the disease he was supposedly healed of?

South of I 90 08-20-2008 09:40 PM
Re: Songwriter a Fraud
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cneasttx (Post 571663)
So he wrote a song about healing, but had never had the disease he was supposedly healed of?
He wrote and sang the song on the latest Hillsong CD and DVD.

Here's the lyric:

You hold my every moment
You calm my raging seas
You walk with me through fire
And heal all my disease
I trust in You
I trust in You

I believe You're my Healer
I believe You are all I need
I believe You're my Portion
I believe You're more than enough for me
Jesus You're all I need

Nothing is impossible for You
Nothing is impossible for You
Nothing is impossible for You
You hold my world in Your hands

Cindy 08-20-2008 09:45 PM
Re: Songwriter a Fraud
 
I don't know what Hillsong is, but the lyrics are ok.

ManOfWord 08-20-2008 09:49 PM
Re: Songwriter a Fraud
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cneasttx (Post 571675)
I don't know what Hillsong is, but the lyrics are ok.
The video is incredible!!! It has him on stage playing his guitar with and oxygen machine behind him and the tube under his nose while he sings. He then gives his testimony on the DVD which is very moving.

So sad it is not true!

South of I 90 08-20-2008 09:51 PM
Re: Songwriter a Fraud
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cneasttx (Post 571675)
I don't know what Hillsong is, but the lyrics are ok.
You've probably have heard and sung many songs by http://www.hillsong.com/music/ unless your church only uses the hymnal.

Cindy 08-20-2008 09:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ManOfWord (Post 571679)
The video is incredible!!! It has him on stage playing his guitar with and oxygen machine behind him and the tube under his nose while he sings. He then gives his testimony on the DVD which is very moving.

So sad it is not true!
Oh that is sad. Sad and pitiful.

Hoovie 08-20-2008 09:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ManOfWord (Post 571679)
The video is incredible!!! It has him on stage playing his guitar with and oxygen machine behind him and the tube under his nose while he sings. He then gives his testimony on the DVD which is very moving.

So sad it is not true!
I won't go so far as to say I wish he had cancer... But yes, incredible props with the O2 on his nose - in one video interview he even feigns weakness...

This is the Music Minister's version of Benny Hinn.

South of I 90 08-20-2008 09:53 PM
Re: Songwriter a Fraud
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ManOfWord (Post 571679)
It has him on stage playing his guitar with and oxygen machine behind him and the tube under his nose while he sings.
Apparently he was taking in air and blowing it out hot! :tiphat

HeavenlyOne 08-20-2008 10:25 PM
Re: Songwriter a Fraud
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by South of I 90 (Post 571670)
He wrote and sang the song on the latest Hillsong CD and DVD.

Here's the lyric:

You hold my every moment
You calm my raging seas
You walk with me through fire
And heal all my disease
I trust in You
I trust in You

I believe You're my Healer
I believe You are all I need
I believe You're my Portion
I believe You're more than enough for me
Jesus You're all I need

Nothing is impossible for You
Nothing is impossible for You
Nothing is impossible for You
You hold my world in Your hands
I'd never heard this song until this past Sunday, when the church I attended sang it. I liked it. Still do.

ManOfWord 08-21-2008 07:31 AM
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Once again, it is amazing what God can do with something someone did maliciously and for the wrong reason. He is still God and will use whatever He wants to accomplish His purposes. :D

mama bear 08-21-2008 07:42 AM
Re: Songwriter a Fraud
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover (Post 571684)
I won't go so far as to say I wish he had cancer... But yes, incredible props with the O2 on his nose - in one video interview he even feigns weakness...

This is the Music Minister's version of Benny Hinn.
So very true.
I'd be afraid I would get cancer now.
I've learned a great lesson.
When I was younger, I would think I didn't feel well enough to go to church, so I'd call and say I wasn't feeling well......well.....I would ALWAYS end up sick! I was a quick learner.

Sherri 08-21-2008 07:58 AM
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We do this song at church. I'm sorry to find out the way it came about, but it is an anointed song and we love it.

steve p 08-21-2008 08:05 AM
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This songwriter, Todd Bentley, and the likes there of demonstrate one thing; our faith, trust, and hope is built on nothing but Jesus. No church, no organization, no denomination, no pastor, no worship leader, no prophet, etc.
"My hope is built on nothing less than Jesus blood and righteousness"
I pray for those who for whatever reason felt the need to mislead people, whether they are innocent or guilty. It is not my place to judge. God will sort all that out. I am saddened if people are mislead by these people or by ME! Hence, we must always encourage others to trust the ONE who is trustworthy!
Blessings to all!

Hoovie 08-21-2008 08:08 AM
Re: Songwriter a Fraud
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by steve p (Post 571799)
This songwriter, Todd Bentley, and the likes there of demonstrate one thing; our faith, trust, and hope is built on nothing but Jesus. No church, no organization, no denomination, no pastor, no worship leader, no prophet, etc.
"My hope is built on nothing less than Jesus blood and righteousness"
I pray for those who for whatever reason felt the need to mislead people, whether they are innocent or guilty. It is not my place to judge. God will sort all that out. I am saddened if people are mislead by these people or by ME! Hence, we must always encourage others to trust the ONE who is trustworthy!
Blessings to all!
Well said!

COOPER 08-21-2008 08:31 AM
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Oh good grief!

Jack Shephard 08-21-2008 09:17 AM
Re: Songwriter a Fraud
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by South of I 90 (Post 571585)
This song had over 300,000 hits on Youtube. Also with him being the writer, and the number of CD's Hillsong has sold, he has already made many $ from royalties.

It will be interesting to see how Hillsong and Integrity Music handles this issue. Will they re-issue the cd and DVD without the song.

The DVD includes his testimony and behind the scenes footage of him dealing with the "cancer".

The song was rapidly becoming an anthem for deliverence and healing in churches around the world.
I wouldn't think that they would re-issue the disc at all. The song is what ministers not the person that does sing the song. It is a great shame about this, however it is still a great song. I played it for my wife who is disabled physically and it really touched her. I say keep the song going get a legal injunction that stops the payment of profits to him and his family because of fraud and let the song speak for its self. Remember Kirk Franklin wrote 'Now Behold the Lamb' one of the greatest songs ever written, IMO, when he was addicted to porn. Thank God he is delievered but let the song speak on its own.

steve p 08-21-2008 09:18 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JTULLOCK (Post 571886)
I wouldn't think that they would re-issue the disc at all. The song is what ministers not the person that does sing the song. It is a great shame about this, however it is still a great song. I played it for my wife who is disabled physically and it really touched her. I say keep the song going get a legal injunction that stops the payment of profits to him and his family because of fraud and let the song speak for its self. Remember Kirk Franklin wrote 'Now Behold the Lamb' one of the greatest songs ever written, IMO, when he was addicted to porn. Thank God he is delievered but let the song speak on its own.
amen and amen

triumphant1 08-21-2008 09:29 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JTULLOCK (Post 571886)
I wouldn't think that they would re-issue the disc at all. The song is what ministers not the person that does sing the song. It is a great shame about this, however it is still a great song. I played it for my wife who is disabled physically and it really touched her. I say keep the song going get a legal injunction that stops the payment of profits to him and his family because of fraud and let the song speak for its self. Remember Kirk Franklin wrote 'Now Behold the Lamb' one of the greatest songs ever written, IMO, when he was addicted to porn. Thank God he is delievered but let the song speak on its own.
And Hank Williams wrote "I Saw the Light"...a beloved hymn in many churches...while hopelessly addicted to drugs and alcohol and singing in beer joints and honkytonks....

Doesn't make the life or the deception right...but it is possible for a great inspirational song to be written by a scoundrel...the song could even be anointed by God too...

If that song's message is true...then sing on...truth is still truth! Our God is the Healer!!!!!

South of I 90 08-21-2008 09:36 AM
Re: Songwriter a Fraud
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JTULLOCK (Post 571886)
I wouldn't think that they would re-issue the disc at all. The song is what ministers not the person that does sing the song. It is a great shame about this, however it is still a great song. I played it for my wife who is disabled physically and it really touched her. I say keep the song going get a legal injunction that stops the payment of profits to him and his family because of fraud and let the song speak for its self. Remember Kirk Franklin wrote 'Now Behold the Lamb' one of the greatest songs ever written, IMO, when he was addicted to porn. Thank God he is delievered but let the song speak on its own.
Maybe not re-issue the cd , but the dvd is another issue. I would think Hillsong and Integrity would not want the image of him singing with O2 going in his nose plus an approximate 9 minute bonus coverage of his "disease" to continue to be duplicated and distributed.

I just watched the song and the testimony again, and this sickens me!

I don't think the Kirk Franklin analogy applies to this scenario.

Sandra 08-21-2008 09:40 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by South of I 90 (Post 571903)
Maybe not re-issue the cd , but the dvd is another issue. I would think Hillsong and Integrity would not want the image of him singing with O2 going in his nose plus an approximate 9 minute bonus coverage of his "disease" to continue to be duplicated and distributed.

I just watched the song and the testimony again, and this sickens me!

I don't think the Kirk Franklin analogy applies to this scenario.
I agree, he never lied about his addiction. The Crabb family sings all the songs their father wrote, he has an addiction with alcohol.

Jack Shephard 08-21-2008 09:43 AM
Re: Songwriter a Fraud
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by South of I 90 (Post 571903)
Maybe not re-issue the cd , but the dvd is another issue. I would think Hillsong and Integrity would not want the image of him singing with O2 going in his nose plus an approximate 9 minute bonus coverage of his "disease" to continue to be duplicated and distributed.

I just watched the song and the testimony again, and this sickens me!

I don't think the Kirk Franklin analogy applies to this scenario.
I am sick about this, it bugs me for sure.

I was using the Kirk thing cause he hid it basically lived a lie, but he came forward with it and made it right. Now Kirk did not 'capitolize' money wise on it that is the biggest difference, but the point I was making is that the song should speak for itself, cause it is anointed.

South of I 90 08-21-2008 09:50 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JTULLOCK (Post 571908)
I am sick about this, it bugs me for sure.

I was using the Kirk thing cause he hid it basically lived a lie, but he came forward with it and made it right. Now Kirk did not 'capitolize' money wise on it that is the biggest difference, but the point I was making is that the song should speak for itself, cause it is anointed.
JT, I love this song. It "rocked" my world the first time I heard it. I hope I can get past all of this "stuff" and do it again.

Cindy 08-21-2008 09:53 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by steve p (Post 571799)
This songwriter, Todd Bentley, and the likes there of demonstrate one thing; our faith, trust, and hope is built on nothing but Jesus. No church, no organization, no denomination, no pastor, no worship leader, no prophet, etc.
"My hope is built on nothing less than Jesus blood and righteousness"
I pray for those who for whatever reason felt the need to mislead people, whether they are innocent or guilty. It is not my place to judge. God will sort all that out. I am saddened if people are mislead by these people or by ME! Hence, we must always encourage others to trust the ONE who is trustworthy!
Blessings to all!
Preach!

Timmy 08-21-2008 10:09 AM
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The Assemblies of God, Australia's largest Pentecostal movement, adopted its new name of Australian Christian Churches in 2007.
Whoa. I hadn't heard that. Trying to distance themselves?

Timmy 08-21-2008 10:09 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 571567)
Why in the world do people do these things? I guess there are more psycho people in the world than I ever imagined.
Yup.

Jack Shephard 08-21-2008 10:15 AM
Re: Songwriter a Fraud
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by South of I 90 (Post 571917)
JT, I love this song. It "rocked" my world the first time I heard it. I hope I can get past all of this "stuff" and do it again.
I agree. It floored me. Maybe I can get past it. I have been through so much the past few years that this song really spoke to me alot and to hear this bites me in the shorts. But God is supreme and still the King so that is what I hold to. Still the message of the song rings true.

Timmy 08-21-2008 10:17 AM
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What is the "discernment" I keep hearing about? :tease

Jack Shephard 08-21-2008 10:48 AM
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You know the thing that makes me the sickest about this is in the video I watched on YouTube had the interview with him and I remember that he said that day he was "so sck" that he almost didn't sing but he got the strength to sing and how that was a God moment and such....what a joke! This makes me ill!!!!!!!

South of I 90 08-21-2008 11:07 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JTULLOCK (Post 571963)
You know the thing that makes me the sickest about this is in the video I watched on YouTube had the interview with him and I remember that he said that day he was "so sck" that he almost didn't sing but he got the strength to sing and how that was a God moment and such....what a joke! This makes me ill!!!!!!!
I agree; I pulled out the dvd and watched the song and the bonus footage about the song this morning.

I'm not sure how to describe my emotions.

MissBrattified 08-21-2008 11:09 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by South of I 90 (Post 571536)
The performance of this song and the testimony was on Youtube with tens of thousands of hits. It has sinced been removed.
Here's one of the song with no testimony, but it shows him wearing the cannula.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLbjqcG4OT4


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