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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2066207/posts

Obama is a representative of the Democratic People. However, the Obama must meet the Qualifications specified for the United States Office of the President, which is he must be a "natural born" citizen. Unfortunately, Obama is not a "natural born" citizen. Just to name one of the problems, Obama lost his U.S. citizenship when his mother married an Indonesian citizen and relocated herself and Obama to Indonesia wherein Obama's mother naturalized in Indonesia and Obama followed her naturalization, as he was a minor and in the custody of his mother. Obama failed to take the oath of allegiance when he turned eighteen (18) years to regain his United States Citizenship status.

The Democratic National Committee is for Plaintiff and "We the People" who believe in the Democratic Vision. The Democratic National Party is supposed to represent the Democratic Americans in seeking honest leadership, Open Government, Real Security, Energy Independence, Economic Prosperity, Educational Excellence, a Healthcare System that works for Everyone and Retirement Security. The Democratic Party is supposed to represent and protect the interests of working Americans and guaranteeing personal liberties for all. Of which includes securing a Democratic Nominee on the Presidential Election ballot who represents the Democratic vision and who is qualified and eligible to run for Office of the President under the qualifications of the United States Constitution.

The actions of Obama, a U.S. Senator, in running for President of the United States, knowing he is not eligible, have been taken entirely without authorization under the

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I realize this is written poorly and won't go anywhere, but honestly, it does appear that he isn't eligible to run and no one is doing anything about it.

What are they scared of?

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Renda, it's very hard to believe this would go unchecked by the opposing party. Maybe it's already been explained to their satisfaction. I really don't know.

Sure would be hard to do anything about it now, wouldn't it?

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If I were running against him and thought he were ineligible I wouldn't say anything, it would make it look like I was afraid to run against him, however there would be nothing barring someone from filing the case after the election.

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If this a legitimate issue, it should definately be resolved before the election. To wait and file a case against him after he won the election would be similiar to the farce that happened in Florida at the request of Sore/Looserman.

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That's true, but you would think someone would be in charge of making sure all is well - maybe the CIA/FBI/FEC.

I mean, we do background checks on all new hires where I work and if something isn't legit - they aren't hired.

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I think it would have to be Congress or one of its agencies as they are in charge of elections. I think CIA and FBI are under the Executive Branch. The courts have jurisdiction because it is a Constitutional issue and Congress (which will do nothing).

The courts may be the only way to get satisfaction on this issue, I am not aware of anyone ever being challenged on their natural born status before.

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Well, there is always a first time!

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http://www.americasright.com/2008/08...a-federal.html

A prominent Philadelphia attorney and Hillary Clinton supporter filed suit 8/21/08 in the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania against Illinois Sen. Barack Obama, the Democratic National Committee and the Federal Election Commission.

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Is this not the same guy that I had the link to?

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It is. This link just gives some more background on him rather than on the suit and points out that it is a friend of Hillary's. Also a lot of the typo's are not in the original so its not as bad as it looked at first glance.

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The Hawaiian birth certificate, Berg says, is a forgery. In the suit, the attorney states that the birth certificate on record is a forgery, has been identified as such by three independent document forensic experts, and actually belonged to Maya Kasandra Soetoro, Sen. Obama's half-sister.

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Wow - this is just unreal if this is all true and nothing is being done about it.

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I wonder if John McCain's campaign has heard about this?:evilglee

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Wow! Get ready for some smoke and mirrors. Run Billary, run.

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Oh my. If this is true, can you imagine the mess that is forthcoming?

I thought she (HRC) was being awfully generous to Obama in her speech last night. Then at other times, you would have thought she was the nominee!

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I believe the speech has been pegged as "her 2012 campaign" speech! It was interesting that she didn't say she was a wife when she was mentioning all her roles......mother, senator, etc., but no wife was mentioned.

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I had the same thought about her not mentioning the wife role, Renda.

Did you see his face during the speech? He seemed very emotional.

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Yes, but I believe that was all for the cameras too! Mouthing "I love you" all the time and tearing up......whatever. :dance Sorry!

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That was also mentioned on the blog that was posted on the "Dress" thread!

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Just so you know, the same argument is being proposed against McCain, as he was born in Panama.

http://archive.redstate.com/stories/...l_born_citizen

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Personally, I thought he had the look of a little kid waiting to see what kind of mischief he could get into next!

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That's true, but as it has been stated he was born to TWO American citizens in an American Army Hospital in Panama.

I'd be all for them investigating both!

Seems this would end the McCain question -

"Yet according to the Naturalization Law of 1790 that sought to define the term: "And the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond sea, or outside the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens.""

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This is the difference however...

Yet according to the Naturalization Law of 1790 that sought to define the term: "And the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond sea, or outside the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens."

McCain was the child of Two U.S. citizens.

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Well, we know he's a good actor.......lol

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Typical Clinton!

They are definitely gunning for 2012. According to Dick Morris it was her goal last night to make them regret they didn't pick her for VP.

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Thanks! That makes sense! :)

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Well, I passed on the info to the John McCain Campaign and Fox news and asked them for comment!

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there is a website, obamacrimes.com or something like that, interesting, i thought that was done with, but i guess not , and it is dems that are doing it, lol

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I really dont think anything will come of this. the Clintons would not have allowed this to go unchallenged. His mother was a citizen when he was born and he was born in an American territory.

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Well, I believe there's been 3 or 4 in all of the previous presidential election history.....one who was born in Kansas in 1860....one year before it became a state....the others I can't recall but in this election alone we have not one but 2 who have issues in regards to there citizenship although McCain's is less blatant and in fact would not be an issue at all in most countries(if both parents are citizens you are in).

Obama, from what I can tell never was a US citizen from the get go.

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Well, not exactly, McCain would be disqualified more on a technicality whereas obama from the looks of things has an Indonesian/Kenyan citizenship thing going trying to masquerade as a US citizen....sort of a Triune citizenship would be the best way to describe it.

What's bad about this is when(not if)Obama gets the rug pulled out from under him and this charade finally comes to a close....whether it's during the DNC, before the elections or God Forbid after the elections(if he wins)...you are going to be looking at nationwide riots/blood in the streets in all the major big cities...it's going to be a bloody mess cause I know how a majority of Obama supporters are...I got ceremoniously cussed out/threatened with arrests/jail time 3 weeks ago on a Jazz message board/political section forum for coming against there "messiah" and these were musicians/artists for the most part. What makes Obama dangerous are his supporters.

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Barry is a US Citizen, his mother was a US Citizen living in a US Territory at the time of his birth. That settles the issue in its entirety.

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How did his mother legally "lose" her citizenship?
If she was a U.S. citizen, all children birthed from her would automatically be citizens. At least that's my understanding.

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Obama's birth, his mother was only eighteen (18) and therefore did not meet the

residency requirements under the law to give her son (Obama) U.S. Citizenship. The laws in effect at the time of Obama's birth prevented U.S. Citizenship at birth of children born abroad to a U.S. Citizen parent and a non-citizen parent, if the citizen parent was under the age of nineteen (19) at the time of the birth of the child. Obama's mother did not qualify under the law on the books to register Obama as a "natural born" citizen. Section 301(a)(7) of the Immigration and Nationality Act of June 27,1952,66 Stat. 163, 235, 8 U.S.c. §1401(b), Matter of S-F-and G-, 2 I & N Dec. 182 (B.I.A.) approved (Att'y Gen. 1944). Obama would have only been Naturalized and a Naturalized citizen is not qualified and/or eligible to run for Office of the President. U.S. Constitution, Article II, Section Clause 4.

Furthermore, if Obama had been born in Kenya, his birth father Barack Obama, Sf. was a citizen of Kenya; therefore, Obama would have automatically become a citizen of Kenya.
In or about 1967, when Obama was approximately six (6) years old, his mother, Stanley Ann Dunham married Lolo Soetoro, a citizen of Indonesia and moved to Indonesia with Obama. At this time, if Obama was Registered as a "natural born" citizen, which he did not qualify to be registered as, he would have lost his U.S. Citizenship when his mother married Lolo Soetoro and took up residency in Indonesia. The first requirement is that naturalization must be achieved through "application." Such type of naturalization occurs, for example, when a person acquires a foreign nationality by marriage to a national of that country. Nationality Act of 1940, Section

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Are they sure this applies? he was born on US soil was he not? to a US citizen. Would that make him a natural born citizen?

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See post #35 - his mother was under age.

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Still no mention of this in the media... wonder why? :D

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I'm not following. Are you claiming that because his American mother was under age, even though he was born in the US, he's not a citizen of the US?

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Found this online. Nothing about losing citizenship because your mother married someone from another country and moved there.

Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in those gaps. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are "citizens of the United States at birth:"

* Anyone born inside the United States
* Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person's status as a citizen of the tribe
* Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.
* Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national
* Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year
* Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21
* Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)
* A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.

The ways to lose citizenship are detailed in 8 USC 1481:

* Becoming naturalized in another country
* Swearing an oath of allegiance to another country
* Serving in the armed forces of a nation at war with the U.S., or if you are an officer in that force
* Working for the government of another nation if doing so requires that you become naturalized or that you swear an oath of allegiance
* Formally renouncing citizenship at a U.S. consular office
* Formally renouncing citizenship to the U.S. Attorney General
* By being convicted of committing treason

http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_citi.html