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Pro31:28 08-31-2008 09:07 AM

Will the church change it's mind about gambling?
 
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CC1 08-31-2008 11:25 AM

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Where does the bible teach against gambling? Last time I checked they drew lots to see who the person would be to replace Judas!

Praxeas 08-31-2008 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 579173)
Where does the bible teach against gambling? Last time I checked they drew lots to see who the person would be to replace Judas!

I think they are talking about the kind of gambling where you put money down to get more and potentially lose it

ManOfWord 08-31-2008 04:30 PM

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You don't have to use the scripture to know whether gambling is good or not. All you have to do is use a calculator and understand just ONE basic rule:

The house NEVER loses!

I have NEVER, even as a sinner, purchased a lottery ticket. I have never taught that it would be a sin to purchase a lottery ticket. I DO teach that it is like someone putting a vacuum hose in your wallet or purse and is extremely unwise.

However, I do believe that the scripture takes a dim view of quick gains such as these. :D

Sherri 08-31-2008 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ManOfWord (Post 579293)
You don't have to use the scripture to know whether gambling is good or not. All you have to do is use a calculator and understand just ONE basic rule:

The house NEVER loses!

I have NEVER, even as a sinner, purchased a lottery ticket. I have never taught that it would be a sin to purchase a lottery ticket. I DO teach that it is like someone putting a vacuum hose in your wallet or purse and is extremely unwise.

However, I do believe that the scripture takes a dim view of quick gains such as these. :D

My feelings exactly.

CC1 09-01-2008 12:00 AM

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I am not trying to promote gambling but I seriously don't recall a single instance of it being talked about in the bible other than it mentioning that the Roman soldiers gambled for Jesus' garment or belongings when he was crucified.

I could just be forgetting a passage but I don't recall one.

ManOfWord 09-01-2008 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 579437)
I am not trying to promote gambling but I seriously don't recall a single instance of it being talked about in the bible other than it mentioning that the Roman soldiers gambled for Jesus' garment or belongings when he was crucified.

I could just be forgetting a passage but I don't recall one.


You're right. It is just the overwhelming amount of scripture that deals with financial things and takes a dim view of quick gains. :D

Which precisely why I don't declare it a sin. It IS a sin if your family suffers from someone gambling.

Michael Phelps 09-01-2008 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ManOfWord (Post 579465)
You're right. It is just the overwhelming amount of scripture that deals with financial things and takes a dim view of quick gains. :D

Which precisely why I don't declare it a sin. It IS a sin if your family suffers from someone gambling.

To play Devil's Advocate, what's the difference in paying a dollar for a lottery ticket, and investing your money in the stock market, or 401K?

OP_Carl 09-01-2008 09:31 AM

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Will the church change it's mind about gambling?
I hope not. I hope the church continues to teach against something that is potentially addictive and has a proven track record of ruining lives and families. The book of Proverbs has several references that indicate that gambling is for fools. Hopefully we are still in the business of encouraging folks to seek wisdom.

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Originally Posted by Michael Phelps (Post 579484)
To play Devil's Advocate, what's the difference in paying a dollar for a lottery ticket, and investing your money in the stock market, or 401K?

One is a game of chance, the key operative being the word 'GAME,' and the other is purchasing a portion of a business, with full faith and credit that those running the business are doing everything within their power to make that business succeed and grow.

Michael Phelps 09-01-2008 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by OP_Carl (Post 579518)
One is a game of chance, the key operative being the word 'GAME,' and the other is purchasing a portion of a business, with full faith and credit that those running the business are doing everything within their power to make that business succeed and grow.

Is it possible to lose your money in the stock market?

OP_Carl 09-01-2008 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael Phelps (Post 579520)
Is it possible to lose your money in the stock market?

Since you are so nervous and risk-adverse, may I recommend a more suitable investment vehicle for you?


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Michael Phelps 09-01-2008 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by OP_Carl (Post 579533)
Since you are so nervous and risk-adverse, may I recommend a more suitable investment vehicle for you?


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Lol, cute, but you didn't answer my question.

Can a person lose their invested money in the stock market?

CC1 09-01-2008 10:15 AM

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[QUOTE=ManOfWord;579465]You're right. It is just the overwhelming amount of scripture that deals with financial things and takes a dim view of quick gains. :D

Which precisely why I don't declare it a sin. It IS a sin if your family suffers from someone gambling.[/QUOTE]

Bingo!! That is what I believe. I have zero guilt about buying a couple of lottery tickets twice a week. I don't have any expensive habits or hobbies like golf, etc and I don't spend money on alcohol, cigarettes, partying,etc.

Therefore if I want to spend $16.00 of my leisure money per month on the lottery I don't see anything wrong with it as long as my family is being fed and I am doing my duty to God and church.

Pro31:28 09-01-2008 10:32 AM

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Here is a bit of the Article
"PORT JEFFERSON, N.Y. -- A New York pastor said one of his congregants donated a winning lottery ticket worth $3 million to his church.

Pastor Bertrand Crabbe of the True North Community Church in Port Jefferson said the donor, who asked to remain anonymous, donated the "Ba Da Bling" scratch-off ticket immediately after realizing he won.

Crabb said the donor said, "This was why God put the ticket in his hands.""

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