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Dedicated Mind 09-04-2008 04:51 PM

Obama On O'Reily Tonight?
 
Has anyone heard if Obama will be on O'Reiley's show tonight? I think I heard some reporters mention it.

Baron1710 09-04-2008 04:52 PM

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Yes he will be.

Pressing-On 09-04-2008 09:57 PM

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Read this tonight. I'll have to watch the clips tomorrow.

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I am watching the interview and Obama is blundering through it, he keeps running from the softball questions. I'm LMHO listening to it. He's really clueless. It's not exactly a hard hitting interview so far, but Obama is proving himself to be an idiot.

I mean, if we demand money from Iraq for our help, wouldn't that be truly becoming the "American empire" that many nuts are talking about. Just a thought.

Also he had no solution to Iran. That part was just funny.

Obama proved he was an idiot.
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I didn't think Oreilly gave that great an interview but Obama spoke like a clueless idiot.
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I noticed how intense and mean his eyes became when repeatedly asked about preparing for Iran.

AmazingGrace 09-04-2008 10:09 PM

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And they expected him to prove himself to be more than a clueless idiot???? ROFL!!!!

Pressing-On 09-04-2008 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by AmazingGrace (Post 582734)
And they expected him to prove himself to be more than a clueless idiot???? ROFL!!!!

LOL! I don't think he's an idiot, but I'm not impressed with him. I have never been impressed with him. He seems young and arrogant. I can't respect him.

AmazingGrace 09-04-2008 10:24 PM

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Oh Lord girl... you will more than likely change your mind when you listen to the interview!! ummm uhhh ahhh ohhh nooo ummm uhhh... thats 90% of what he says just to fill you in! LOL

Pressing-On 09-04-2008 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by AmazingGrace (Post 582768)
Oh Lord girl... you will more than likely change your mind when you listen to the interview!! ummm uhhh ahhh ohhh nooo ummm uhhh... thats 90% of what he says just to fill you in! LOL

Did you listen to it?

AmazingGrace 09-04-2008 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 582772)
Did you listen to it?

Yes

Pressing-On 09-04-2008 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by AmazingGrace (Post 582774)
Yes

Lord!!! I already know how he talks. He's just annoying. lol

I'll listen to it tomorrow. lol

AmazingGrace 09-04-2008 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 582775)
Lord!!! I already know how he talks. He's just annoying. lol

I'll listen to it tomorrow. lol

Oh its beyond bad... he cant answer a straight question once at all in the whole thing!

Pressing-On 09-04-2008 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by AmazingGrace (Post 582777)
Oh its beyond bad... he cant answer a straight question once at all in the whole thing!

That's what the posters on another forum were saying. I wasn't surprised.

Elizabeth 09-04-2008 10:52 PM

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I was concerned that O'Reily would be too nice, well I am glad to see he isn't letting up on Obama at all.

Should get more intense as the interview continues.

Rhoni 09-05-2008 04:53 AM

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Obama would be the worst disaster since 9/11. He knows nothing about anything and probably needs his wife to tell him what clothes to wear.

Pressing-On 09-05-2008 06:37 AM

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Watched the interview. Came away with the same impression - he is not prepared and has no fortitude other than talk, talk, talk.

He tried to say he had others ways of dealing with rogue nations - like we had done none of these things before. Hilarious!

Also walked away with O'Reilly stressing he wants a strong leader in the White House and, pretty much, you could tell he didn't think Obama was it.

tamor 09-05-2008 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Rhoni (Post 582828)
Obama would be the worst disaster since 9/11.

He knows nothing about anything and probably needs his wife to tell him what clothes to wear.

Oh Lord, I'm trying to be good, I really am! Where's PO when I need her???

:ursofunny:ursofunny:ursofunny:ursofunny

Pressing-On 09-05-2008 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by tamor (Post 582870)
Oh Lord, I'm trying to be good, I really am! Where's PO when I need her???

:ursofunny:ursofunny:ursofunny:ursofunny

Oh just say it! I don't think they ban you for long anyway!

:ursofunny:ursofunny:ursofunny

tamor 09-05-2008 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 582872)
Oh just say it! I don't think they ban you for long anyway!

:ursofunny:ursofunny:ursofunny

You would miss me if I was gone!!

:ursofunny:ursofunny

Pressing-On 09-05-2008 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by tamor (Post 582874)
You would miss me if I was gone!!

:ursofunny:ursofunny

True dat! Bite your lip and forget about it!! :ursofunny

Just remember though, Cindy has to comb McCain's hair. lol

tamor 09-05-2008 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 582875)
True dat! Bite your lip and forget about it!! :ursofunny

Just remember though, Cindy has to comb McCain's hair. lol

:ursofunny:ursofunny:ursofunny

Aquila 09-05-2008 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Rhoni (Post 582828)
Obama would be the worst disaster since 9/11. He knows nothing about anything and probably needs his wife to tell him what clothes to wear.

I don't mind one thinking that Obama would be a terrible president. But to say he'd be the worst dissaster since 9/11 is to minimize the deaths of over 3,000 people. Obama may prove to be a terrible president if elected...but even the worst American president (in my opinion Bush) isn't anywhere near as terrible as the disaster that took place on 9/11. Seeing that 9/11 is only 6 days away...we need more reverence.

9/11 struck us a little close to home because Beth and Charlie (my cousins-in-law) lost their apartment with everything they owned (including their cat) because of the dust and debris. They weren't even allowed back on the premisis.

This is one reason why I broke ranks with conservatives. They seem to loose all sense of reality when attacking the enemy. And it can come off VERY insensitive and hurtful. Of course...many conservatives I know revel in being insensitive and hurtful. They think that's what makes a good conservative.

Sad really.

Aquila 09-05-2008 07:04 AM

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On a psychological note....it's interesting how the psychological process is channelling anger from 9/11 to Obama when in all honesty...he's an American and had he been in those buildings they would have killed him too. And had he been President he would have done what he believed was necesary to defend the United States and bring those involved to justice.

Could it be that since Obama is dark skinned and his name sounds like "Osama" that some are unconciously channeling anger from 9/11 to Obama? He might loose the election because many Americans will unconciously be trying to punish Osama bin Laden. ;)

The psychology of the human animal is both facinating and frightening.

Pressing-On 09-05-2008 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Aquila (Post 582882)
On a psychological note....it's interesting how the psychological process is channelling anger from 9/11 to Obama when in all honesty...he's an American and had he been in those buildings they would have killed him too. And had he been President he would have done what he believed was necesary to defend the United States and bring those involved to justice.

Could it be that since Obama is dark skinned and his name sounds like "Osama" that some are unconciously channeling anger from 9/11 to Obama? He might loose the election because many Americans will unconciously be trying to punish Osama bin Laden. ;)

The psychology of the human animal is both facinating and frightening.

Obama's perplexing inability to break open a significant lead in the polls has more to do with his view on dealing with foreign affairs. It is not about race or his inexperience in office or his inexperience on foreign affairs. It is his view on the subject - talk, talk, talk.

It is because America is uneasy about electing a commander in chief who is not strong on military policy. Bottom line. If we are not made to feel safe, we know that we have no economy. So, it's safety first and economy second.

McCain/Pain 2008

Cindy 09-05-2008 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 582875)
True dat! Bite your lip and forget about it!! :ursofunny

Just remember though, Cindy has to comb McCain's hair. lol

No I don't, why y'all wanna drag me into this?

:ursofunny :ursofunny :ursofunny :ursofunny

Rhoni 09-05-2008 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Aquila (Post 582881)
I don't mind one thinking that Obama would be a terrible president. But to say he'd be the worst dissaster since 9/11 is to minimize the deaths of over 3,000 people. Obama may prove to be a terrible president if elected...but even the worst American president (in my opinion Bush) isn't anywhere near as terrible as the disaster that took place on 9/11. Seeing that 9/11 is only 6 days away...we need more reverence.

9/11 struck us a little close to home because Beth and Charlie (my cousins-in-law) lost their apartment with everything they owned (including their cat) because of the dust and debris. They weren't even allowed back on the premisis.

This is one reason why I broke ranks with conservatives. They seem to loose all sense of reality when attacking the enemy. And it can come off VERY insensitive and hurtful. Of course...many conservatives I know revel in being insensitive and hurtful. They think that's what makes a good conservative.

Sad really.

Aqilla, Many lost their lives and I truly respect that...I remember 9/11 and watched it all happen. If Obama had his way he would go talk to the terrorists...and at least Bush did something.:friend

Blessings, Rhoni

Rhoni 09-05-2008 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by cneasttx (Post 582913)
No I don't, why y'all wanna drag me into this?

:ursofunny :ursofunny :ursofunny :ursofunny

So, McCain has short arms...what excuse does Obama have?:tease

Cindy 09-05-2008 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Rhoni (Post 582936)
So, McCain has short arms...what excuse does Obama have?:tease

:ursofunny

tamor 09-05-2008 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by cneasttx (Post 582913)
No I don't, why y'all wanna drag me into this?

:ursofunny :ursofunny :ursofunny :ursofunny

:ursofunny:ursofunny:ursofunny:ursofunny

Pressing-On 09-05-2008 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by cneasttx (Post 582913)
No I don't, why y'all wanna drag me into this?

:ursofunny :ursofunny :ursofunny :ursofunny

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Originally Posted by Rhoni (Post 582936)
So, McCain has short arms...what excuse does Obama have?:tease

:ursofunny:ursofunny:ursofunny:ursofunny

Pressing-On 09-05-2008 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Rhoni (Post 582934)
Aqilla, Many lost their lives and I truly respect that...I remember 9/11 and watched it all happen. If Obama had his way he would go talk to the terrorists...and at least Bush did something.:friend

Blessings, Rhoni

Exactly, Rhoni. Talk, talk, talk, stutter, stutter, stutter.

Aquila 09-05-2008 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 582903)
Obama's perplexing inability to break open a significant lead in the polls has more to do with his view on dealing with foreign affairs. It is not about race or his inexperience in office or his inexperience on foreign affairs. It is his view on the subject - talk, talk, talk.

It is because America is uneasy about electing a commander in chief who is not strong on military policy. Bottom line. If we are not made to feel safe, we know that we have no economy. So, it's safety first and economy second.

McCain/Pain 2008

All good points. I've supported Obama and I agree...McCain's far stronger on defense. I think some are concerned about policies. Some of our foreign policies are believed by many to be making foreign relations worse. Unless we change some policies there will be war without end. Obama does show some interest in changing some of those policies.

While McCain is strong on military defense...there's only so many beans and so many bullets. A policy change in some areas might help relieve tensions in some regions. That would be Obama's game.

DividedThigh 09-05-2008 08:47 AM

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obama would be a disaster unless he can read a teleprompter 24 hrs a day for four years,. god deliver us from such lunacy as this totally unqualified person to be president is my prayer, dt

Aquila 09-05-2008 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Rhoni (Post 582934)
Aqilla, Many lost their lives and I truly respect that...I remember 9/11 and watched it all happen. If Obama had his way he would go talk to the terrorists...and at least Bush did something.:friend

Blessings, Rhoni

Bush invaded Afghanistan. I applaud that. I think that's where the real battle is. Iraq wasn't necessary. It's costing too much money and sapping human resources from battling the Taliban in Afghanistan.

An attack would call for military reprisal. However, anyone with any sense knows we can't kill every Islamic fundamentalist on the planet who has terrorist leanings. Eventually we're going to have to talk to these people and see if we can diffuse the conflict somehow. The only military solution would be to kill every Muslim on the planet. That's not going to happen.

It might be of interest. If you survey Arab politics there are more fundamentalists in elected and appointed offices throughout the Arab world today than before the GWOT. Our invasion caused a political groundswell of pro-Islamic fundamentalism because they feel we're a threat to their faith and culture.

Also...talking is political. If we sit down and talk with them and they prove to be untrustworthy...that will justify any military tactic we have to take. Personally, I think it's going to take nuking a few major cities. That's what stopped Japan. To justify that we have to act harmless as doves...and if they so much as sneeze...vaporize them.

Pressing-On 09-05-2008 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Aquila (Post 583027)
All good points. I've supported Obama and I agree...McCain's far stronger on defense. I think some are concerned about policies. Some of our foreign policies are believed by many to be making foreign relations worse. Unless we change some policies there will be war without end. Obama does show some interest in changing some of those policies.

While McCain is strong on military defense...there's only so many beans and so many bullets. A policy change in some areas might help relieve tensions in some regions. That would be Obama's game.

Can't go with that one. I take military defense first and talk last.

Aquila 09-05-2008 08:59 AM

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You have to understand some of these political concepts. Some might call it "lying" but it's just as important as killing for one's country.

For example, as President, I might promise Russia to disarm our nuclear defenses. But I'd only disarm what was previously slotted for disarmament and then place strategic nuclear elements in a top secret "stand by". I'd then have intel work on assuring that the Russians were also disarming. Odds are they'd do the same as I was doing. lol The global community however would see what appears to be "peace" and tensions would ease up a bit and it wouldn't appear that we were at the brink of war. However, if they launched something unidentifiable and it entered our air space....I'd tern Moscow into a crater.

Aquila 09-05-2008 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 583052)
Can't go with that one. I take military defense first and talk last.

I know you do.

I see it as a formal thing. You talk with the enemy to justify any action you have to take. Then you can say, "We've talked and they will not keep the peace. Now we vaporize them." But...if you refuse to talk you make them out to look like martyrs and that helps them recruit more fundamentalists into their ranks. It also gets the global community suspecious of your motives. And lastly...it' sets a standard by which other nations will begin using to deal with us. Russia might decide later tonight that it's not worth talking over...and just nuke us. We can't afford to wrecklessly escalate things that quickly.

Talking doesn't always achieve very much. But it gives moral high ground and justification for using extreme measures.

Pressing-On 09-05-2008 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Aquila (Post 583060)
You have to understand some of these political concepts. Some might call it "lying" but it's just as important as killing for one's country.

For example, as President, I might promise Russia to disarm our nuclear defenses. But I'd only disarm what was previously slotted for disarmament and then place strategic nuclear elements in a top secret "stand by". I'd then have intel work on assuring that the Russians were also disarming. Odds are they'd do the same as I was doing. lol The global community however would see what appears to be "peace" and tensions would ease up a bit and it wouldn't appear that we were at the brink of war. However, if they launched something unidentifiable and it entered our air space....I'd turn Moscow into a crater.

I agree with you here.

Pressing-On 09-05-2008 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Aquila (Post 583067)
I know you do.

I see it as a formal thing. You talk with the enemy to justify any action you have to take. Then you can say, "We've talked and they will not keep the peace. Now we vaporize them." But...if you refuse to talk you make them out to look like martyrs and that helps them recruit more fundamentalists into their ranks. It also gets the global community suspecious of your motives. And lastly...it' sets a standard by which other nations will begin using to deal with us. Russia might decide later tonight that it's not worth talking over...and just nuke us. We can't afford to wrecklessly escalate things that quickly.

Talking doesn't always achieve very much. But it gives moral high ground and justification for using extreme measures.

When I say talk, I mean the way Obama represents himself that we have not talked enough. We've talked until we were blue in the face. We've sanctioned and talked. I just don't like how he is representing what our government has done in the past.

Aquila 09-05-2008 09:05 AM

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It's just political.

For example if we were in a confrontation...I'd try to talk the situation down. But if you continued to get beligerant and continued to threaten me...I'd introduce you to a little concealed friend of mine. Everyone would know I tried to calm you down but you kept 'a' comin'.

Aquila 09-05-2008 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 583071)
When I say talk, I mean the way Obama represents himself that we have not talked enough. We've talked until we were blue in the face. We've sanctioned and talked. I just don't like how he is representing what our government has done in the past.

Bro....we've sanctioned who? Iraq? Iraq didn't attack us. Now Iran is a problem. We have to show very extensive measures of diplomacy. Sanctions are part of that. But we need diplomacy and talks, that way if they get too bold we can use whatever means necessary to knock them down and maintain the moral high ground.

When my little boy is doing something wrong...I tell him what he's doing and I tell him to stop. I don't just swoop in and hit him without clarifying what he's done, giving him a chance, or letting him know why I'm hitting him.

Aquila 09-05-2008 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 583071)
When I say talk, I mean the way Obama represents himself that we have not talked enough. We've talked until we were blue in the face. We've sanctioned and talked. I just don't like how he is representing what our government has done in the past.

Do you remember when Bush refused to renew the ban on ballistic nuclear missle testing? Do you realize that that did? A nation can begin testing weapons of this nature...and claim they've violated no law. That disarms us from having legal right to issue sanctions or take action. We'd have to simply act as an aggressor to protect our interests. Bro....Bush has been a major dissaster on many foreign relation fronts.

While the "talk" behind the ballistic nulcear missle testing ban didn't really prevent anyone from violating the treaty underhandedly....it gave justification for us to do whatever we felt was necessary.


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