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jimmyrrs 09-09-2008 08:48 PM

Interpretation of tongues:
 
1 Corinthians

4Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit.

5And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord.

6And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all.

7But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.

8For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;

9To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;

10To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:
11But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.

I'm sure several have heard interpretation of tongues before. I have seen this happen with the same person speaking in tongues and then giving the interpretation as well as one speaking in tongues and another person giving the interpretation.
Can more than one person receive the same interpretation yet only one person speak out? Yes/No? I would like to know biblical what you base your answer on.
Along the same line how do you feel about the (SAME) person giving the interpretation all the time. No judging meant. I remember other people that gave interpretations that still attend the church today.

Praxeas 09-09-2008 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmyrrs (Post 586588)
1 Corinthians

4Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit.

5And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord.

6And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all.

7But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.

8For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;

9To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;

10To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:
11But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.

I'm sure several have heard interpretation of tongues before. I have seen this happen with the same person speaking in tongues and then giving the interpretation as well as one speaking in tongues and another person giving the interpretation.
Can more than one person receive the same interpretation yet only one person speak out? Yes/No? I would like to know biblical what you base your answer on.
Along the same line how do you feel about the (SAME) person giving the interpretation all the time. No judging meant. I remember other people that gave interpretations that still attend the church today.

More than one person CAN receive an interpretation.

But Paul gives the impression that only one should interpret. If the same person is interpreting all the time then maybe others should pray for the gift. That person should also be willing to allow others to give the interpretation from time to time

Super Jesus 09-09-2008 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 586618)
More than one person CAN receive an interpretation.

But Paul gives the impression that only one should interpret. \

Unless the person interpreting has bad English. Then someone else should interpret what the first person said. :)

jimmyrrs 09-10-2008 03:38 PM

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Praxeas, I agree that Paul seems to indicate that only one person should interpert.
And yes I agree that God could use anyone willing to be used.
But have you ever heard of more than one person receiving the same interpretation, yet only one interperts, during the service.
I have not. I could see where this might cause confusion, or could be used to build a persons faith by knowing that God was trying to use them.

1 Corinthians 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

mfblume 09-10-2008 03:47 PM

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I have seen cases when one person thought they should interpret any message in tongues any time it was given in their church. One like that proved in time to repeat the same "interpretation," and it was more or less flesh and not God using them. People need to be taught that they are not the only ones who can interpret a message.

I have known where more than one person received an interpretation, although only one person gave it forth. The other said they had the same general idea. Interpretations are not translations. So the THOUGHT will be the same if more than one claim to have the interpretation.

ronharvey 09-10-2008 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 586618)
More than one person CAN receive an interpretation.

But Paul gives the impression that only one should interpret. If the same person is interpreting all the time then maybe others should pray for the gift. That person should also be willing to allow others to give the interpretation from time to time

Well Said.

Ron

Pressing-On 09-10-2008 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 586618)
More than one person CAN receive an interpretation.

But Paul gives the impression that only one should interpret. If the same person is interpreting all the time then maybe others should pray for the gift. That person should also be willing to allow others to give the interpretation from time to time

I believe he is saying that the "interpretation" must be done one at a time. I don't think it is saying the same person can't be used over and over. There could be two or three that think they have the interpretation and all speak at once. I think that's what is being said.

There have been times when I prayed that God wouldn't use me. I want him to use others. It blesses the church when the gift is bestowed on various individuals.

I don't think it's the matter of "allow" someone else. God is going to use whoever is yielded. It isn't something we operate at our own directive.

mfblume 09-11-2008 09:21 AM

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Speaking of tongues....

I believe it was the Lord who showed me that fruit of the Spirit is like the Fruit on the Tree of life in Rev 22, and the leaves for healing are the GIFTS of the Spirit. Leaves catch our attention. FRUIT provides something SUBSTANTIAL to people.

Jesus saw the fig tree full of leaves, but when He went to it He found NO FRUIT. So He cursed it. Fig trees are supposed to bear fruit when they have leaves.

Similarly, believers with lots of gifts and no fruit, like the Corinthians, are a reproach to the cause of Christ.

Paul said the GIFTS, when done IN THE CHURCH, are attention-grabbers. When tongues is given IN THE CHURCH, Paul said an interpretation should always follow. SUBSTANCE must be given to others, not just something to catch their attention.

Paul said he spoke with tongues more than anyone, BUT IN THE CHURCH he'd rather speak in the native language AND FEED SOMEONE with substance from God. Otherwise, he said the unlearned will think we're "mad".

He said that if we prophesy to them and give them something substantial, and more than letting them see tongues, and reveal secrets of their hearts, they will fall down on their faces and say God is in us.

There is too much disobedience to that 14th chapter of 1 Cor. Lots of tongues without interpretation. It does not matter if Bro So-and-so of a 3,000 member church does it or not, the BIBLE said that :

1 Corinthians 14:13-14 KJV (13) Wherefore let him that speaketh in an unknown tongue pray that he may interpret. (14) For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful.

1 Corinthians 14:16-19 KJV (16) Else when thou shalt bless with the spirit, how shall he that occupieth the room of the unlearned say Amen at thy giving of thanks, seeing he understandeth not what thou sayest? (17) For thou verily givest thanks well, but the other is not edified. (18) I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than ye all: (19) Yet in the church I had rather speak five words with my understanding, that by my voice I might teach others also, than ten thousand words in an unknown tongue.

1 Corinthians 14:23-25 KJV (23) If therefore the whole church be come together into one place, and all speak with tongues, and there come in those that are unlearned, or unbelievers, will they not say that ye are mad? (24) But if all prophesy, and there come in one that believeth not, or one unlearned, he is convinced of all, he is judged of all: (25) And thus are the secrets of his heart made manifest; and so falling down on his face he will worship God, and report that God is in you of a truth.

jimmyrrs 09-11-2008 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mfblume (Post 587718)
Speaking of tongues....

Paul said the GIFTS, when done IN THE CHURCH, are attention-grabbers. When tongues is given IN THE CHURCH, Paul said an interpretation should always follow.[/SIZE][/SIZE] SUBSTANCE must be given to others, not just something to catch their attention.[/U][/B]

mfblume, I understand everything except this. I think I know what you mean but I must ask. I beleive there is a differance in speaking in tongues, (talking to Jesus) where no man can interprete, and speaking in tongues for the edification of the church, where there is interpretation given. By no means is there always an interpretation given following tongues.

Do you agree?

mfblume 09-11-2008 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmyrrs (Post 588229)
mfblume, I understand everything except this. I think I know what you mean but I must ask. I beleive there is a differance in speaking in tongues, (talking to Jesus) where no man can interprete, and speaking in tongues for the edification of the church, where there is interpretation given. By no means is there always an interpretation given following tongues.

Do you agree?

I am speaking of tongues IN THE CHURCH gathering.

I only agree if you are talking about the tongues that are meant to be interpreted are shouted forth for all to hear, as opposed to tongues that edify the tongue-talker alone and are not hollered out. Paul made this very poin. If it is tongues for self-edification, which is what they are when no interprteation follows, that is fine. Just do nto shout it out for all to hear.

Tongues can be spoken without interpretation, but Paul said that should be done when alone. Where else did Paul speak in tongues when he said he spoke in tongues more than all of the peopl, YET IN THE CHURCH he would not do so except for the case of an interpretation.

jimmyrrs 09-15-2008 09:18 AM

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From what you last note, I beleive we are on the same page.
Have a Blessed day.


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