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SDG 09-10-2008 11:34 AM

BP: Apologizes at Synadelfos
 
Posted today on Synadelfos.com:

Quote:

Over the past few weeks, I found myself not being myself. i found myself being the old Bill Price, filled with hate and venom, pointing fingers to those whom were innocent, damning to hell that which I should not have. It cost me a lot, I price I chose to pay. But, I want to take just a few moments, and issue this apology to my Oneness friends.

In my zeal, in my anger, and in my hatred, I accused Oneness of denying the deity of the Son. Though some Oneness do, many do not, and believe the Son was not just the body Christ came in. I do apologize for saying what I have said, and am taking this time to fully and openly say sorry for the hatefilled things I have said in the past.

To mizpeh and Praxeas on AFF, I apologize for attacking on CARM, a site I no longer frequent. I saw what I had become, and I saw what i was doing, and I do apologize for my actions.

To all my friends, I apologize for any hurt feelings, and I ask forgiveness.

As a minister, as a believer, as a man trying his best to make sense of things in his life right now, I acted immaturely and improperly. All I can do, and I will do, is ask forgiveness, and continue on in Christ.

Sincerely,
William Michael Price
By Grace Through Faith Ministries
Bill will always have my forgiveness.

Michael Phelps 09-10-2008 11:38 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 587014)
Posted today on Synadelfos.com:



Bill will always have my forgiveness.

I've never held anything against BP, but you have to admit, this trend is becoming quite tiresome.

SDG 09-10-2008 11:39 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Phelps (Post 587018)
I've never held anything against BP, but you have to admit, this trend is becoming quite tiresome.

We're all entitled to opinions ... Love is longsuffering.

We all choose ... everyday.

Thumper 09-10-2008 11:40 AM

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will his apologies never end

Michael Phelps 09-10-2008 11:41 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 587020)
We're all entitled to opinions ... Love is longsuffering.

We all choose ... everyday.

Understood, and your friendship with BP is admirable. But, don't forget, true friendship does not enable wrong behavior. True friendship corrects gently.

SDG 09-10-2008 11:42 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Phelps (Post 587023)
Understood, and your friendship with BP is admirable. But, don't forget, true friendship does not enable wrong behavior. True friendship corrects gently.

Absolutely, Michael.

James Griffin 09-10-2008 11:43 AM

Re: BP: Apologizes at Synadelfos
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 587014)
Posted today on Synadelfos.com:



Bill will always have my forgiveness.

I have not offered forgiveness, because that would have required offense in the first place...

Love covers.

Michael Phelps 09-10-2008 11:47 AM

Re: BP: Apologizes at Synadelfos
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 587026)
Absolutely, Michael.

Maybe your friendship will help BP to get "centered". We all "evolve", or in the words of some "devolve", but it usually doesn't happen in the rubber band way that our dear friend has experienced.

Hopefully you can be a help to him, Daniel.

Ferd 09-10-2008 12:05 PM

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I appreciate the appology. I agree with Dan love is longsuffering....


my only question is, should a minister have to issue that many open appologies?

As a side note, most of us will pay lip service to the notion of "looking at an issue from every side"

Bill has made that a life practice.

ReformedDave 09-10-2008 12:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 587036)
I appreciate the appology. I agree with Dan love is longsuffering....


my only question is, should a minister have to issue that many open appologies?

As a side note, most of us will pay lip service to the notion of "looking at an issue from every side"

Bill has made that a life practice.

Bill obviously has a problem being able to think clearly. He might be driven by guilt and the fear of being wrong. In my opinion he should drop the 'minister' label. It has become a meaningless title. I hope he finds peace and a sound mind and I hope he finds and holds on to truth.

Praxeas 09-10-2008 12:12 PM

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Bill, if you read this, thank you. I appreciate it and am glad you saw it.

DividedThigh 09-10-2008 12:24 PM

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bro price consider grace extended, and forgiveness, though i dont remember being directly offended, i like to give grace, i need it sometimes, dt

Pastor Keith 09-10-2008 12:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 587020)
We're all entitled to opinions ... Love is longsuffering.

We all choose ... everyday.

Do you ever have a converasation with him about sitting for a long while, be teachable, face up to his emotional instablility and being accountable for his life to someone who can speak honesty about him and he not run away.

Cindy 09-10-2008 01:02 PM

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Praying for Bill.

ILG 09-10-2008 01:06 PM

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sigh

Scott Hutchinson 09-10-2008 01:08 PM

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I like Bill ok,I would never harm him,but he has done this so much that people begin to distrust him.
I care about him and wish him God's best and we all make mistakes.

CC1 09-10-2008 01:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 587020)
We're all entitled to opinions ... Love is longsuffering.

We all choose ... everyday.

Love is indeed longsuffering but BP's behaviour is beyond just needing people to be longsuffering. He needs psychological and spiritual help.

Please don't try to paint him as just a normal person seeking truth. That does not help him in any way. It is the same logic of excusing a violent murder because the murderer fell out of his high chair when an infant.

I have no ill will against BP and think he is personally a nice guy. However I don't for one minute think he lives within the bounds of normalness, reasonableness, etc. He has serious stability issues.

It is ironic that while his greatest deisre appears to be taken seriously as a minister his very actions have totally wiped out any credibility he might have with any group of believers trinitarian or oneness.

I pray that BP someday overcomes his serious issues. In the meantime his posts, blogs, website, have no more meaning than the mindless rants of psycho bloggers all over the internet.

SDG 09-10-2008 01:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 587096)
Love is indeed longsuffering but BP's behaviour is beyond just needing people to be longsuffering. He needs psychological and spiritual help.

Please don't try to paint him as just a normal person seeking truth. That does not help him in any way. It is the same logic of excusing a violent murder because the murderer fell out of his high chair when an infant.

I have no ill will against BP and think he is personally a nice guy. However I don't for one minute think he lives within the bounds of normalness, reasonableness, etc. He has serious stability issues.

It is ironic that while his greatest deisre appears to be taken seriously as a minister his very actions have totally wiped out any credibility he might have with any group of believers trinitarian or oneness.

I pray that BP someday overcomes his serious issues. In the meantime his posts, blogs, website, have no more meaning than the mindless rants of psycho bloggers all over the internet.

Yep. You've made this point about 3245215634 times, CC.

I'm sure we are all aware where you stand ... your threads and posts on that matter are emphatic, redundant and hyperbolic ....and some of us see them very similar to " personal attacks" you condemned on men like Dr. Vaughn ...

It gets as old as the very posts and mindset you seek to berate, IMO. So you think he needs help ... do you have any idea how many times you made this point? Seriously.

When did you become a pschoanalyst?

If his posts mean nothing ... why give them the constant weight you exert in opining about them?? ... might be a legitimate question.

You either forgive or you choose not to ... simple

Carry on.

CC1 09-10-2008 01:45 PM

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DA,

Forgiving does not mean you have to be an idiot. I forgive people all of the time but it doesn't mean it wipes the slate clean in the sense I no longer know what they are.

If someone cheats me I can forgive them but forgiveness does not dictate I put myself in a situation for them to cheat me again.

The same thing here. One can repeatedly forgive BP for his silliness but that doens't mean we have to act like he isn't silly.

SDG 09-10-2008 01:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 587111)
DA,

Forgiving does not mean you have to be an idiot. I forgive people all of the time but it doesn't mean it wipes the slate clean in the sense I no longer know they are not what they are.

If someone cheats me I can forgive them but forgiveness does not dictate I put myself in a situation for them to cheat me again.

The same thing here. One can repeatedly forgive BP for his silliness but that doens't mean we have to act like he isn't silly.

More energy and keystrokes on an issue that has no value and is meaningless to you ....
Blah ... blah ... blah.

Yet another CC1 post aimed/lobbed at BP.

Aquila 09-10-2008 01:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Phelps (Post 587023)
Understood, and your friendship with BP is admirable. But, don't forget, true friendship does not enable wrong behavior. True friendship corrects gently.

Amen. But what do we mean by "gentle correction"?

I believe Bro. Price has some deep emotional issues that the church has failed to address.

I've recently had some marriage problems and felt led to go to a secular counselor. I've discovered that I've suffered from a degree of PTSD and many of my emotional "ups" and "downs" are linked to some of the trauma I've experienced combined with the ongoing, and unsuccessful, "struggle" for wholeness and healing in the church. We often treat those who need help like, "Hey, what's wrong with you, you've got a problem! You need to just get right." Sometimes it's more difficult than that. Many who have had "serious" problems be they marital, emotional, or psychological have turned to the church only to have the church offer "correction", "prayer", or to watch in horror as the very men they turned to black listed them from ministry because, "That brother has problems."

I pray for Bro. Price, that he experiences peace and wholeness. It saddens me that we fail so many because of our "backwoods" mentality. I remember trying to explain this to a pastor and he looked me straight in the eye and said, "We DON'T need any SENSITIVITY training." Well....I respectfully disagree.

ManOfWord 09-10-2008 01:52 PM

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I hold/held nothing against BP for any one of his "lapses" in judgement. Blessed are the merciful, for they shall obtain mercy. I need all I can get. I don't think he was ever malicious, just misguided and needing help. I pray that he receives mercy and the help he needs! :D

SDG 09-10-2008 01:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ManOfWord (Post 587117)
I hold/held nothing against BP for any one of his "lapses" in judgement. Blessed are the merciful, for they shall obtain mercy. I need all I can get. I don't think he was ever malicious, just misguided and needing help. I pray that he receives mercy and the help he needs! :D

Very pastoral ... as always MOW.

Dedicated Mind 09-10-2008 01:55 PM

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no hard feelings BP :friend

why don't you come on aff for a chat on your current views?

tstew 09-10-2008 01:58 PM

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BP, if you're reading this I would like to make a suggestion. I think that it would be wise to save some of your apologies and reread them the next time you feel the urge to really lash out at any group or individuals. I think that the apologies that I have read from you have been very lucid and in the right spirit and revisiting them will help you keep from going too far in the other direction. I am praying for you and your family.

God Bless,

CC1 09-10-2008 02:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 587120)
no hard feelings BP :friend

why don't you come on aff for a chat on your current views?

Oh good grief. That plays exactly into his pyschological issues. The need for attention is overwhelming and here you are feeding the problem.

Plus from a practical standpoint if BP were to discuss his "current" views he would have to repost every five minutes!:tease

Dimples 09-10-2008 02:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 587115)
More energy and keystrokes on an issue that has no value and is meaningless to you ....
Blah ... blah ... blah.

Alicea, many have felt that way about your rants.

SDG 09-10-2008 02:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dimples (Post 587127)
Alicea, many have felt that way about your rants.

So we can relate ... good.

But don't claim to be bored ... say it's meaningless... or claim not to care if one constantly reacts.

Dedicated Mind 09-10-2008 02:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 587125)
Oh good grief. That plays exactly into his pyschological issues. The need for attention is overwhelming and here you are feeding the problem.

Plus from a practical standpoint if BP were to discuss his "current" views he would have to repost every five minutes!:tease

come on cc1, what else is there to talk about on aff? let's show some brotherly love, I would love to chat with BP. :roseglasses

ReformedDave 09-10-2008 02:08 PM

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Dan, it seems that you did your friend, BP, no favors by starting this thread.....

SDG 09-10-2008 02:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ReformedDave (Post 587131)
Dan, it seems that you did your friend, BP, no favors by starting this thread.....

Maybe ... maybe not... but it definitely displays the ill will of some who claim none, IMO.

Risks are almost always ... calculated, RD.

ReformedDave 09-10-2008 02:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 587134)
Maybe ... maybe not... but it definitely displays the ill will of some who claim none, IMO.

Risks are almost always ... calculated, RD.

The only 'risk' isn't risky for you ......

mfblume 09-10-2008 02:16 PM

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Bill is just one of those 70 X 7 guys that Jesus told us to forgive. Christ is not even so concerned over 70X7 sins as much as He is concerned over the ability to repent and ask forgiveness. Matt 8 proved that to us. The 70 X 7 issue can be handled if the person is humble enough to ask forgiveness. Spiritual maturity will solve the 70 X 7.

But a person who commits one sin and no more, and never seeks forgiveness, and refuses to repent, is far worse off.

I've been the brunt of some of his attacks in the past, but I have always left the door of friendship opened to him. Even the last time he thought I misrepresented his views, which I did not (:)), I left the door open. :)

Encryptus 09-10-2008 02:29 PM

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At least Bill asked forgiveness for his attitude, unlike some on HERE which persist to make sport.

As far as theology, I personally don't see a change other than to point out what his friends told him; that lumping all "Oneness" into the same theological dogma is folly.

JamDat 09-10-2008 06:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Thumper (Post 587022)
will his apologies never end

Hopefully not, unless he stops doing wrong.

JamDat 09-10-2008 06:30 PM

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Is he looking our way?

JamDat 09-10-2008 06:31 PM

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Just kidding... BP I hope the best for you and that would include you changing your mind again about oneness. May God shower His love upon you.

Praxeas 09-10-2008 06:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquila (Post 587116)
Amen. But what do we mean by "gentle correction"?

I believe Bro. Price has some deep emotional issues that the church has failed to address.

I've recently had some marriage problems and felt led to go to a secular counselor. I've discovered that I've suffered from a degree of PTSD and many of my emotional "ups" and "downs" are linked to some of the trauma I've experienced combined with the ongoing, and unsuccessful, "struggle" for wholeness and healing in the church. We often treat those who need help like, "Hey, what's wrong with you, you've got a problem! You need to just get right." Sometimes it's more difficult than that. Many who have had "serious" problems be they marital, emotional, or psychological have turned to the church only to have the church offer "correction", "prayer", or to watch in horror as the very men they turned to black listed them from ministry because, "That brother has problems."

I pray for Bro. Price, that he experiences peace and wholeness. It saddens me that we fail so many because of our "backwoods" mentality. I remember trying to explain this to a pastor and he looked me straight in the eye and said, "We DON'T need any SENSITIVITY training." Well....I respectfully disagree.

How do you know the church failed to address them? Aquila have you ever thought about shooting yourself in the foot? The only picture I have of you is someone pointing a gun at his foot. At some point the introspective stuff gets old and depressing. Try singing another tune

The road to healing does NOT go through blame city. WE don't have a backwoods mentality.

Bro-Larry 09-10-2008 08:31 PM

Re: BP: Apologizes at Synadelfos
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 587036)
I appreciate the appology. I agree with Dan love is longsuffering....


my only question is, should a minister have to issue that many open appologies?

As a side note, most of us will pay lip service to the notion of "looking at an issue from every side"

Bill has made that a life practice.

Ferd, Doesn't a minister get the same as the rest of us? 490 in one day?

Sam 09-10-2008 08:50 PM

Re: BP: Apologizes at Synadelfos
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Thumper (Post 587022)
will his apologies never end

well, give him 70 times 7


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