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My 11 yr. old son recently asked my wife what God's name was. He went on to tell her that he realized that the name of His Son was Jesus. So what should she have told him?

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God was manifested in the flesh. His name was is Jesus.

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And Jesus was God.

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We know, and pray to the Father through the Son. "Jesus" embodies the eternal name of God, therefore I voted the third option.

Yah = God.

Yahshua = God Saves/He will save his people from their sins.

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I will only add that it is the Hebrew word "to be", I Am that I Am.

Meaning that He always, was, is and will be. He is the Father of all creation. He was probably never called by the Greek rendering Iesous and it is believed that the "J" was not used until about 500 yrs ago and that there was no "J" in ANY language until the 14th century England.

We most CERTAINLY do not baptize the way the early church did. However, having said that, I am NOT an advocate of baptizing using the name of Yeshua/Yahshua or other any other Hebrew derivative. We know who the name of Jesus represents and I always use the name of Jesus when I baptize someone, when I pray etc. I don't think there is anything wrong with that.

That being said, we must be very careful that we don't make the Greek rendering of "Hashem" Jesus, some "magical" incantation as if the Greek Jesus is THE way it was pronounced during bibical times. It certainly was NOT. :D

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5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him the name which is above every name:
10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Philippians 2:5-11 says that Jesus has the name which is above every other name. Jesus is God's highest name.

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5 Let this minde bee in you, which was also in Christ Iesus:
6 Who, being in the forme of God, thought it not robbery to bee equall with God:
7 But made himselfe of no reputation, and tooke vpon him the forme of a seruant, and was made in the likenesse of men:
8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himselfe, and became obedient vnto death, euen the death of the Crosse.
9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and giuen him a Name which is aboue euery name:
10 That at the name of Iesus euery knee should bow, of things in heauen, and things in earth, and things vnder the earth;
11 And that euery tongue should confesse that Iesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
This is Philippians 2:5-11 from my 1611 KJV.
Note that there is no "J." Instead an "I" is used.
Also, the letters "u" and "v" are some times used in place of each other, nouns are capitalized, and some words have and extra "e" on the end.

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That kind of speak can get you in trouble around here ...

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I was thinking the same thing. lol Last time I said such a thing the world almost ended. :tease

And, His name is Yahveh. Yeshua means salvation. He is our salvation. Jesus...is just an English transliteration of a Greek transliteration of the Hebrew Yeshua. And since God is multilingual, it doesn't much matter what you use, IMO. He knows.

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Ha! So when have I ever been afraid of telling the truth? Truth sets people free, not puts them in bondage. Questions are good and discussion is healthy. But for some to plug their ears and scream at the top of their lungs, "I can't hear you!" is precisely the reason many are stuck in a formula and don't go on to a relationship with Jesus, or Hashem, or Iesous or Yeshua or Yah..............or whatever!

I happen to call Him Jesus, but I am not offended when some use one of the other renderings to to refer to the One who redeemed us!

If people think that ONLY the name of Jesus pronounced in baptism is efficacious and none of the others "work" then, IMO, that is shear ignorance.

God didn't even speak the name "Jesus" to Mary. :D

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Does anyone really believe that?

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I assume he means its ok to say Jesus in a different language.

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That's what I'm assuming as well. :)

What is wrong with that?

If you're in Greece, pronouncing Jesus the way the Greeks do is fine. Of in Israel, pronounce it Jesus the way the Jews would.

What is the big deal and who teaches the name, Jesus, has to be spoken as Jesus no matter where you are in the world?:crazy

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Matthew 1:21

And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins. KJV

Nntseincueⁿ cwii yuˈndaa na tsaⁿsˈa. Ndoˈ ˈu nntseicajndyuˈ juu Jesús. Ee na tseixmaaⁿ na nncwjiˈnˈmaaⁿñê nnˈaⁿ na mˈaⁿ cantyja ˈnaaⁿˈaⁿ. Nntseicanoomˈm jnaⁿ na laˈxmaⁿ naⁿˈñeeⁿ. Amuzgo de Guerrero

Тя ще роди син, и ще Му наречеш името Исус(Спасител); защото Той ще спаси людете Си от греховете им. Bulgarian Bible

Li pral fè yon pitit gason. Wa rele l' Jezi. Se li menm ki pral delivre pèp li a anba peche l' yo. Haitian Creole

Og hun skal føde en Søn, og du skal kalde hans Navn Jesus; thi han skal frelse sit Folk fra deres Synder. Danish

Und sie wird einen Sohn gebären, des Namen sollst du Jesus heißen; denn er wird sein Volk selig machen von ihren Sünden. German (Luther Bible)

Y dará a luz un hijo, y llamarás su nombre JESÚS, porque él salvará a su pueblo de sus pecados. Spanish (Reina Valera)

elle enfantera un fils, et tu lui donneras le nom de Jésus; c'est lui qui sauvera son peuple de ses péchés. French

τεξεται δε υιον και καλεσεις το ονομα αυτου ιησουν αυτος γαρ σωσει τον λαον αυτου απο των αμαρτιων αυτων Greek

Ona će roditi sina i nazvat ćeš ga Isus (što znači Jahve spasava) jer će spasiti svoj narod od njegovih grijeha. Croatian

Szûl pedig fiat, és nevezd annak nevét Jézusnak, mert õ szabadítja meg az õ népét annak bûneibõl. Hungarian

Hún mun son ala, og hann skaltu láta heita Jesú, því að hann mun frelsa lýð sinn frá syndum þeirra. Icelandic

Ed ella partorirà un figlio e tu gli porrai nome Gesú, perché egli salverà il suo popolo dai loro peccati Italian

아들을 낳으리니 이름을 예수라 하라 이는 그가 자기 백성을 저희 죄에서 구원할 자이심이라 하니라 Korean

A e whanau ia he tama, me hua e koe tona ingoa ko IHU: no te mea mana e whakaora tona iwi i o ratou hara. Maori

Таа ќе роди Син на кој ќе Му дадеш име Исус, зашто Тој ќе го спаси својот народ од неговите гревови. Macedonian

Zij is in verwachting door de Heilige Geest. Zij zal een zoon krijgen, die u Jezus moet noemen. Dat betekent 'God redt' Dutch

og hun skal føde en sønn, og du skal kalle ham Jesus; for han skal frelse sitt folk fra deres synder Norwegian

Ela terá um filho a quem porás o nome de Jesus, porque ele salvará o seu povo dos seus pecados. Portugues

Ea va naşte un Fiu, şi -i vei pune numele Isus, pentru că El va mîntui pe poporul Lui de păcatele sale. Romanian

родит же Сына, и наречешь Ему имя Иисус, ибо Он спасет людей Своих от грехов их. Russian

Hon kommer att få en son, och du ska kalla honom Jesus (det betyder Frälsare), för han ska frälsa sitt folk från deras synder. Swedish

Naye atamzaa mtoto wa kiume, nawe utamwita jina lake Yesu; kwa maana yeye ndiye atakayewaokoa watu wake kutoka katika dhambi zao. Swahili

Siya ay manganganak ng isang lalaki. Ang ipangangalan mo sa kaniya ay Jesus sapagkat ililigtas niya ang kaniyang mga tao sa kanilang kasalanan.
Tagalog

Người sẽ sanh một trai, ngươi khá đặt tên là Jêsus, vì chính con trai ấy sẽ cứu dân mình ra khỏi tội. Vietnamese

She shall bear a son and she shall call his name Yeshua, for he shall save his people from their sins. Aramaic English Standard Version

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When Jesus was teaching His disciples how to pray, He said, "Our Father which art in heaven, hallowed be thy name..."

What name did He mean?

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Jesus name.

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Since I happen to believe that Jesus is God then I only need to mark the first one. The offerings about are like asking if Mark (my name) is the name of my mother's youngest child or the the name of my son's father or both? Since I am one and the same I only need answer the one. =)

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Isaiah 9:6

For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

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I asked a Lutheran Minister this once, a smart man, by the way with a PHD in Biology.
His answer was, "Jehovah."

Isaiah 9:6 ties it all together in my mind.

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"Yahweh" or "Jehovah" - and the name of Jesus encompasses the same - now as Saviour.

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Very similiar to opening comment, if in study time or conversation, my child were to ask the name of who was speaking: (no he hasn't asked yet, but I would not be surpised to hear it sometime)

When Jesus heard the voice say "This is my Son in whom I am well pleased....",

Is "Jesus" the correct response since he is God?

Or would I have to go into explanation of God being manifest, or Emanuel God with us etc.?

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I would say that was God the Father (Yahweh/Jehovah), or God as he existed/exists outside, and apart from, the incarnation of Jesus Christ.

Yes, I do believe children need to know the basic concept of the incarnation. While God was in Christ, he continued to exist beyond the child that was born, as God the Father. New Testament literature is much more sensical (even to children) when acknowledgement is given to the distinctions between the Father and Son.

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That is what his Name is called

These are descriptions of who he is.

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I had a pastor whose name was Jesus Varela. A good friend whose name was Jesus Raygoza. In spanish Jesus is generally used but when it is used in english they usually liked to be called Jesse. Several other acquaintances whose names were Jesus as well.

When I baptize how do people know which Name I am baptizing in?

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A few different names and their meanings.

1440 Joshua a savior; a deliverer
1376 Jesus savior; deliverer

1323 Jehoshua same as Joshua

Old Testament Names In Hebrew (Aramaic)

EL: God ("mighty, strong, prominent")
ELOHIM: God (a plural noun, more than two, used with singular verbs

In combination with action
EL SHADDAI: God Almighty or "God All Sufficient."

ADONAI: Lord in our English Bibles (Capitol letter 'L ', lower case, 'ord') (Adonai is plural, the sing. is "adon"). "Master'' or "Lord"

JEHOVAH: LORD in our English Bibles (all capitals). Yahweh is the covenant name of God. The name of God, too sacred to be uttered, abbreviated ( . . . . ) or written "YHWH" without vowel points. The tetragrammaton.
JEHOVAH-JIREH: "The Lord will Provide." Gen. 22:14.
JEHOVAH-ROPHE: "The Lord Who Heals" Ex. 15:22-26
JEHOVAH-NISSI: "The Lord Our Banner." Ex. 17:15.
JEHOVAH-M'KADDESH: "The Lord Who Sanctifies" Lev. 20:8
JEHOVAH-SHALOM: "The Lord Our Peace" Judges 6:24

SHEPHERD: Psa. 23
JUDGE: Psa. 7:8
JEHOVAH ELOHIM: "LORD God" Gen. 2:4
JEHOVAH-TSIDKENU "The Lord Our Righteousness" Jer. 23:5
JEHOVAH-ROHI: "The Lord Our Shepherd" Psa. 23,
JEHOVAH-SHAMMAH: "The Lord is There" (Ezek. 48:35).
JEHOVAH-SABAOTH: "The Lord of Hosts"

EL ELYON: 'Most High" (from "to go up") Deut. 26:19
ABHIR: 'Mighty One', ("to be strong") Gen. 49:24
BRANCH: (tsemach), The Branch: Zech. 3:8
KADOSH: "Holy One" Psa. 71:22
SHAPHAT: "Judge" Gen. 18:25
EL ROI: "God of Seeing" Hagar in Gen. 16:13
KANNA: "Jealous" (zealous). Ex. 20:5,
PALET: "Deliverer" Psa. 18:2.
YESHUA: (Yeshua) "Savior" ("he will save"). Isa. 43:3
GAOL: "Redeemer" (to buy back by paying a price). Job 19:25
MAGEN: "Shield" Psa. 3:3
STONE: Gen. 49:24
EYALUTH: "Strength" Psa. 22:19.
TSADDIQ: "Righteous One" Psa. 7:9.
EL-OLAM: "Everlasting God" (God of everlasting time) Gen. 21:33
EL-BERITH: "God of the Covenant" Used of Baal in Judges 9:46. Probably used originally to refer to the God of israel.
EL-GIBHOR: Mighty God (Isa. 9:6)
ZUR: "God our Rock" Deut. 32:18
Malachi calls Messiah "The Sun of Righteousness" (Malachi 4:2).
'Attiq Yomin (Aramaic): "Ancient of Days," Dan. 7:9, 13, 22.
MELEKH: "King" Psa. 5:2,

"The Angel of the Lord: " Gen. 16:7ff, 21:17
FATHER: 2 Sam. 7:14-15; Psa. 68:5; Isa. 63:16, 64:8; Mal. 1:6.
THE FIRST AND LAST: Isa. 44:6, 48:12.

New Testament Greek Names for God

KURIOS: (kurios) "Lord" Found some 600 times in the NT.
DESPOTES: (despotes) "Lord" 5 times: Lu. 2:29; Acts 4:24; 2 Pet. 2:1; Jude 4; Rev. 6:10.
THEOS: (yeos) "God" (equivalent to the Hebrew Elohim), 1,000 times in the NT.
I AM: Jesus upset his generation especially when He said, "Before Abraham was, I AM," John 8:58. Note also his claim to be Jehovah in such phrases as "I AM the Light of the world," "the bread of life," living water," "the Resurrection and the Life," "the Way, Truth and the Life" in John's Gospel. From the Hebrew OT verb "to be" signifying a Living, Intelligent, Personal Being.
THEOTES: "Godhead" Col. 2:9; Rom. 1:20.
HUPSISTOS: "Highest" Mt. 21:9.
SOTER: (soter) "Savior" Luke 1:4 7.
WORD: (logos) John 1:1ff
ALMIGHTY: (pantokrator) 2 Cor. 6:18, Revelation, 9t, e.g. 19:6.

New Testamnet Greek Names for Jesus

JESUS: Derived from the Hebrew "Joshua" (Y'shua) or "Je-Hoshua" meaning JEHOVAH IS SALVATION.
CHRIST: is equivalent to the Hebrew 'Messiah' (Meshiach), "The Anointed One."
LOGOS: "The Word of God" John l; Rev. 19:13.
SOPHIA: "The Wisdom of God," referring to Christ, refers back to Proverbs (I Cor. 1,2)
ALPHA AND OMEGA: The First and the Last, The Beginning and The End (Rev. 1).

These are what Gods name was, depending on how he related to Man.
His Main covenant name Was revealed in Ex. 3

Due to progressive revelation we now know God through Jesus. His highest revelation. It is solely this Name in which we now find salvation. I still find comfort and solace in using his other revealed names for this is how he relates to us in crisis & provision.

Be blessed
Pastor Daniel T Salaz

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It is not solely the Name itself that saves. It is the object behind the name. When someone came as an ambassador of a king they used the Name of the King and everyone knew the authority that name held. When we use the name Jesus we relate it to the authority behind that name. He is the Christ. We might also say the Lord Jesus Christ, which is God Jesus the messiah. Everyone will know which name we are referring to.

I do not baptize in the name of chuey. Nickname for Jesus in spanish. He can't save anybody.

Everybody knew that the name Joshua in Hebrew didn't save. The Name Jesus, the equivalent in Greek, didn't save. It was until Jesus came and revealed who he was representing that the name held any power. After this whenever the name was used, it was the authority behind that name that now is able to save.

Be blessed
Pastor Daniel T Salaz
Fountain of Truth Apostolic Church

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It was God as the Father. He was known as father for he originated all things. He also originated Jesus. His only begotten. Directly from himself. He was not made like Adam Fashioned from the dust of the earth.

This is when;

sa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

He was fully man as a child was born from Mary, and a Son was Given from God. God added to himself the seed that was in Mary. As the son of Mary he was called the Son of Man. As the from God he is called The Son of God.

Be Blesssed
Pastor DT Salaz

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Id go with Yahweh :-)

However Jesus is the salvational/authoritative name of God in my opinion.

Jesus is Immanuel, which in the greek is THE God with US. Jesus is the name of God in flesh. God had many OT names and often they were combinations to represent a relationship to Israel

Yahweh Yirah He will be our Provider
Yahweh Tsidkenu He will be our Righteousness
Yahweh Rapha He will be our healer
etc etc

Considering the rule of Jesus in the NT The name sums up all of God's qualities and relationships in the OT to us. He is our righteousness. He is our healer. God shall provide all your needs by Christ Jesus.

Savior, in the OT, was not really about sin. It was about deliverance...out of all your problems

So not only was he Jesus, he shall save them from all your sins
He was the lamb of God who bore his back to the smitters, by HIS stripes we are healed.

Jesus is sort of a covenant name I guess you can say, while Yahweh is the memoral name of God for all generations, Jesus is His salvational name...Yahweh is salvation or Yehoshua..Jesus from Yeshua is the shortened of Yehoshua...
not sure why there is a difference in Yah and Yeh, but perhaps it has to do with the influence of aramaic

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You don't have to say their names or you can just call them bro _____ :ursofunny

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It just happens to be true.

Of course it is.

My point is that the Greek form "Jesus" most certainly was NOT pronounced over a convert in the waters of baptism. It was more than likely, Yashua or Yeshua or Yehoshua, which was spoken by the angel.

Once again, I am NOT advocating we use those names and I ALWAYS use the name of Jesus when I am baptizing. I am only making a point from the historical record and putting things into perspective. I have read articles from those who say we must return to using the exact rendering of Jesus' Aramaic or Hebrew name and don't agree with them.

We know who we are referring to and so does God. However, does anyone here really believe that the Greek rendering of Jesus was used during Jesus' day? :D

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I agree-Jesus was the name of God in flesh(Son of God).

Is Jesus not God's name outside of (including during) the incarnation?

Is it Yahweh, or Jehova? As in explanation of the name accompanning the voice that spoke This is my beloved Son.........?

If Jesus is not the name of God when refering to existance outside the incarnation, can we vote Jesus is the name of God, since God's existance has to refer to both?

Maybe I should have split 1st option into 2 options: God's name in His existance outside of, also at the time of His incarnation, and God's name in His existance as the incarnation.


I'm trying to sort out as much of this as I can, so I can explain it all the better to my son without confusion. Thanks for all you're input. Its appreciated.

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Soooo Funny lol

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Something to think about.

At the Jordan river when Jesus was baptized:
who heard the voice?
and
who saw the dove?

The dove was a sign to John and may have only been seen by him.
When it speaks of seeing the dove, the word "he" is used.

The voice was an inner witness to Jesus and may have only been heard by Him.
When it speaks of hearing the voice, the word "he" is used.
Also, notice how the voice is quoted in Luke 3:22.

Read the different accounts and see if it ever speaks of "they" when it speaks of seeing the vision of the dove or hearing the voice of God.

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Let me go on a little tangent and try to in a nutshell explain.


God is God transcendent to creation. All of creation cannot contain him. As he first revealed himself in time it was through the Word. In the beginning God created. How? In the beginning was the Word. And God said let there be.

We use anthropomorphisms, descriptive words relating to man to bring an understanding of this transcendent God. God spoke. And God said. Does he have a form like man, lips, vocal cords, etc? Does God have a Brain in which to think and have wisdom? He is a Spirit. We are spiritual as well, though we have a brain and God somehow stores all of our thoughts and memories in there, there is no way to know them apart from the person.

We all have the same physical characteristics but are known through our spiritual man. As we see a dead man many can say all kinds of things about him. All we see is the corpse. The same as every other living being absent the spirit and soul. That person is now transcendent to the body. The only way to know about a person is by his or her legacy. What they've said or done. The same can be said of God, we cant see him except as he revealed himself through his Word.

How does a word come into existence? It begins in the thought process. We can even think about our thoughts. We then imagine a reality of our thoughts. This is the cornerstone of all created things. They all begin in the spiritual world. We piece together all sorts of information, ideas, concepts and understanding of the physical laws that we are subject to, that is study. Soon follows understanding. Out comes a word of knowledge. We express the thought and soon following the spoken word the thoughts behind that word begin to become a reality. An empty lot has a fence with a sign coming soon. All everybody else sees is an empty lot. The conception in the mind of the owner goes to the architect, engineer, surveyors, the contractors and soon everybody can now see what was originally only a thought. We attribute to each person the greatness of their thought process. That is Wisdom.

Study brings knowledge, Knowledge brings understanding, Understanding brings Wisdom. Making right choices based on all the facts and end results.

So the first manifestation of God was through creation. How did God create it all. Through his Word. The Word was the final result of His Wisdom, Power, Counsel, Justice, Righteousness, Mercy, Goodness, Faithfulness, Grace, etc.. He thought about everything from its initial conception (cosmology) to its final result (Ontology). This is how we can know what a great God we serve. Jesus Christ the Wisdom and Power of God. 1 Cor. 1.24, Prov. 8

Even without a written Word we can see the manifestation of the invisible God. Ro. 1.20. God would then begin to Step outside of transcendence into time and the affairs of mankind. Each time it revealed more about this God even though at the beginning they only had the spoken or oral word of God. It was transmitted orally. They ascribed a name to define the action that God did. These are what we call the attributes of God. This is different from his essence, who God is. In philosophy they call them accidents.


We also saw the character of God through his actions. Just as we can see the character of a person by what he or she does. We try to shape a child's character by words, they soon reveal their character through actions. You and I can change our character as we see the character of God and understand that we need to be transformed. From Glory to Glory and from Faith to Faith. Gods character remains the same throughout all time. He is the same yesterday, today, and forevermore.


God later began to speak to mankind and had what was spoken written down. Does this differ from his oral Word? No, it just ensures that it is transmitted properly. God is revealed through his Word. He is one and the same as his Word. Whether spoken or written. You and I reveal ourselves through our words though only those closest to us will know. If our words or actions are written down then others begin to understand more about us. This is called our testimony or credit report. We can be called a liar for we can have good intentions and give our word but circumstances can change and invalidate our word. That is why the Bible says "Let God be true and every man a liar". When God says something his Word will always come to pass.

When the fullness of time was come, God sent forth his Son (The Word) Gal. 4.4. This is the same Word that was originally spoken and revealed God in creation. The same Word that was given in the garden of Eden (Gen 3.15). The same Word that was given on Mt. Sinai to Moses. No circumstance can stop the Word of God. Now this same Word is manifested in the flesh. The flesh of Jesus was not God but part of creation. God is transcendent to creation. God was in Christ (2 Cor. 5.19) reconciling the world unto himself.

Jesus is God revealed! Now not only revealed through creation, oral Word, written Word, he is now manifested as the Flesh Word. Jesus said I came not to do my will but the will of him that sent me (Jn. 6.38). We now understand that we can only have fellowship with God through Jesus Christ.

The way people came to God before this new covenant was through what his Word revealed. Being obedient in faith doing what God ascribed for man to do to approach Him. It was the faith in His Word that sanctified them. Their sin was placed on the animal sacrifice which looked forward to Christ(mashiyach). (Not revealed as Jesus yet) The works only revealed their faith. Then grace (the giving of life & goodness) was imparted to them and mercy (the withholding of judgement) was extended. Justification would come at the resurrection. When he led captivity captive Eph. 4.8

1Jn 1:1 That (The Word) which was from the beginning (Creation), which we have heard (oral Word), which we have seen with our eyes (written Word and flesh Word), which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;
1Jn 1:2 (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;)
1Jn 1:3 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.

Be blessed
Pastor Daniel T Salaz
Fountain of Truth Apostolic Church

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Good observation. The he is found in Mt. 3.16-17 and the sign was for John only as in John 1.31-34

Mat 3:16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
Mat 3:17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

Joh 1:31 And I knew him not: but that he should be made manifest to Israel, therefore am I come baptizing with water.
Joh 1:32 And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him.
Joh 1:33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.
Joh 1:34 And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God.

God Bless
Pastor D.T. Salaz

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I think in Spanish "Jesus" is just a common name, but if you're referring to the Lord you use "Jesus Christo".

ARPH:doggyrun

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Jesu Christo like Jesss sue

Re: God's name
 

I believe that God is an invisible spirit who fills all space. He is separate from His creation. This is called His transcendence.

I also believe that that one God is immanent, or close to His creation and interacts with it.

God is an invisible spirit who throughout the Old Testament has revealed Himself to humankind as the angel (messenger) of JHVH. This messenger was both the One who sent and the One who was sent. He was God above all and separate from humanity and at the same time was God among us humans. He was the invisible God who became visible. He was the hidden God who was revealed or made manifest. As the distant God come near, or as the hidden God revealed, He was called the Word, or the Logos, or the Memra, or the glory of the Messiah, or Ha Kavod.

He appeared many times in the Old Testament and interacted with humankind. He appeared to Abram. He wrestled with Jacob. He appeared to Moses in a burning bush. He appeared to many in Israel as sitting on a throne or as a pillar of fire or pillar of cloud. He appeared to Isaiah as God above the temple, filling the temple. He appeared as a fourth man in a furnace. Etc. Etc. These were temporary manifestations or revelations of God. This was God revealed. That temporary revelation, that Word became flesh and dwelt among us.

After establishing the deity and the humanity of the Logos/Word/Memra/Ha Kavod, in verses 1 through 17 of the Gospel named after him, the apostle John went on in verse 18 of that first chapter and said, "No man has ever seen God at any time; the only unique Son, or the only begotten God, Who is in the bosom [in the intimate presence] of the Father, He has declared Him [He has revealed Him and brought Him out where He can be seen; He has interpreted Him and He has made Him known]." Amplified Bible

In the first chapter of First John, the Apostle described this Word/Logos/Memra/Ha Kavod as
the one who was from the beginning,
the one they heard with their ears,
the one they saw with their eyes,
the one they observed over a period of time,
the one their hands had handled.
the Word.

In other words, when Jesus took on humanity, He was the One true God of the Old Testament, the invisible God who had made Himself visible over the years and who had appeared to and interacted with humankind. He was God the sender and God the sent one.

The doctrine of the trinity is an attempt to understand and explain God. It was developed over the years. It was an attempt to explain the God of the Hebrews in Latin and Greek terms and now later on into English terms. No wonder we've got it so convoluted and difficult.

In the Old Testament, God was
1 the Father --the One who was the creator and originator of all, the one Who was above all and sovereign over all.
2 the Word --God revealed, localized, made known, among humankind and interacting with humankind
3 the Spirit (Spirit of God, Spirit of the Lord, Holy Ghost, etc) --God working upon, working among, working within people and things, influencing, empowering, changing, etc.

In the Old Testament, God is
1 the Father --the One who was the creator and originator of all, the one Who was above all and sovereign over all, the One who birthed us, loves us and cares for us
2 the Word/Son --God revealed, localized, made known, among humankind and interacting with humankind, the one Who died as a man for humankind
3 the Spirit (Spirit of God, Spirit of the Lord, Holy Ghost, Spirit of Jesus, Christ in ut, etc) --God working upon, working among, working within people and things, influencing, empowering, changing, etc.

Re: God's name
 

Very good Sam!

Re: God's name
 

Well spoken.


Errr oh well, well written.

Or umm well manifested thoughts

I know you better Sam by your expression.

Where you stand is forever imprinted in time and eternity.

God Bless
Pastor Salaz