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I am a fan of the UFC--Ultimate Fighting Championship. It is also known as MMA. I used to not be a fan. I thought it was a blood spot aking to tough man competitions. Well a friend got me into watching them. Often times after each fight is complete the men hug and high five, some pray with one another among other things. Does anyone here watch these too? Are you against them, for them? If against, why? If for, why?

I now view this as a sport due to the sportsmanship of the competitors. I throughly enjoy these and often order them on Pay-per-view. So what do you all think about them?

For those that watch did you see Churck Liddel get knocked out the last fight? I am a huge Liddel fan and I am still in shock.

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I really like MMA. I watched the first UFC way back in the 1990s and I loved it then. Now they have a few more rules and are bringing in really talented fighters. I don't watch that often as I just don't have the time but I love the strategy of the ground game vs ground and pound vs stand up. I hope that in the years to come that MMA can become bigger than boxing.

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I have the first several UFCs on video tape. I think that MMA is certainly going to be bigger than boxing. Just look at how many different variations of MMA shows there are on television compared to boxing based shows. Boxing based shows can't last two seasons.

And JT...Liddell is finished

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That was the craziest knock out I have ever seen. I said to my buddies that IF Liddell fights again he will be lucky. A hit like that could end a career 4-sure! You going to watch any of the up coming UFC pay-per-view? I can not wait til Anderson Silva fights later in OCT.

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they can be bloody and nasty, but usually since they are often just grappling it's not that bad

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I enjoy watching MMA fights and enjoy training and doing some medium sparing myself! I haven't had any good grappling training though :(. I like it though!

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I try to catch them whenever I can. I never actually order them. I'm not sure if anybody is going to beat Silva anytime soon. I'm actually pretty curious about Lesnar. He impresses me with his willingness to fight some of the best even though he is not polished yet. I'm not sure I would do it that way myself, but at least he's not like Kimbo who is just fighting old washed up guys. Did you hear that he's fighting Ken Shamrock next?

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I havent seen any MMA stuff in years! Miss it actually but dont have time to sit down and watch anything. I used to also be heavily involved in kickboxing and actually was into it semi pro myself but wow... oh to be in that good of shape again ROFL!!!

Dont even have a clue who all is involved in any of the stuff anymore much less get the chance to watch it :(

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It's becoming huge now. There are so many shows based on it now that you almost can't avoid it.

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Sniff sniff. I guess I need to spend a week home in front of the tube then cuz I seem to miss it real bad lately LOL... Seriously I used to plan my days around watching stuff like this and now its forever!

Going to skim the channels now and see when the next something is on uh huh! YEP!

Thanks! Its all your fault!

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Just here to help :)

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Yeah the fight between Ken and Kimbo is in Oct or Nov and Lesnar is fighting Randy Couture in Nov too. Did you see Lesnar take it to Keith Herring?

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That was impressive. Herring is no slouch. When he came over from Pride, people expected him to be a serious contender. He was in better shape for this fight than I have ever seen him and he knew it was a must win. Lesnar was also manhandling Mir (who is a former champ) before he just made a rookie mistake. I actually thought the Mir fight was going to be stopped in the first minute and it probably would have been if the ref hadn't stood them up.

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Kimbo is over rated...anyways the MMA is slowly becoming like WWF sadly the way they hype it. It is getting less and less professional

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They certainly do sell the entertainment aspect, but I don't think that the quality of the fighting has been affected. More kids and younger people are getting into MMA and it seems like you are seeing much more well-rounded fighters all the time. The great thing is that it is not like boxing in that people dodge other people for years. The fact that fighters are under contract and have to fight who the company says would make the best fight is a good thing.

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And yes, unless Kimbo gets in with someone closer to his prime, he is vastly overrated.
Ray Mercer, Tank Abbott, Ken Shamrock...give me a break.

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I watched UFC back in the day when Joyce Gracy was beating all comers. I thought Frank Shamrock was pretty impressive. His brother was all brawn, but Frank was smaller and nimble and crazy like a fox. I saw him take down this huge dude who had karate black belts up the ying yang. The bell rang in the first round and Frank ran up to the guy at full speed and literally jumped on the guys head, took him down to the mat and the gorilla tapped out in like fifteen seconds! It was unbelievable! People in the stands booed cuz it was so fast. Seriously, if you took a drink of your Coke and looked back you missed the entire fight! The big dude got up and had this look on his face like, "What just happened? Was that legal? Am I still a man?" haha.

We have several MMA training clubs in our area. Shamrocks "Lions Den" is/was only about 15 miles from my house here. Not sure if they still train out there or not.

Anyway, I can't watch that stuff anymore. For me it brings out an aggression in me that I'm uncomfortable with. It's a bloodsport and I've got just enough crazy in me that I can't watch it cuz of what it does to me emotionally and spiritually. I'm not pointing fingers and getting legalistic here and saying others can't enjoy it. Not at all. I'm just saying that I can't, and don't any more.

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Ahhh, how I miss the olden days of Keith Hackney, Don Fry and the rest....

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One of my students is wanting to start competition MMA. I've been doing some extra training with him as of late. Personally, I like my nose where it is right now and am still partial to chewing my food.

I did get an interesting proposition the other day. A guy in charge of the MP's at Selfridge Air Base in Mount Clemens, Mi has voiced to a buddy of mine that he would like us to get together a group of guys to come train with his MP's. Sounds like a lotta fun.

Btw, check out the Liddell vs Evans bout here ...... OUCH!!

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ROYCE not JOYCE lol

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The Brazilian Ju Jitsu guys always are best. Ever since the Gracies most of the MMAs are training in it some

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I like the fact that they are training in all the original specialties. Most camps have a Ju Jitsu coach, a grappling coach, a boxing coach, a kick boxing coach among others.

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[QUOTE=JTULLOCK;593375]I am a fan of the UFC--Ultimate Fighting Championship. It is also known as MMA....If against, why? If for, why?

I now view this as a sport due to the sportsmanship of the competitors. I throughly enjoy these and often order them on Pay-per-view. So what do you all think about them? >>>



1. It is unnecessary violence, for merely entertainment and money. The components of high athleticism and "sportsmanship" in this activity do not undo its core nature--the intentional near brutality of humans toward humans.

2. It normalizes, trivializes, or glorifies such behavior in the sight of children. Many or most children today do not have sufficient countervailing influences (meaning a good family) to undo these effects. (As an "inner city" el.ed. teacher, I think I've seen such effects on school playgrounds. But who knows, could also be the more prevalent and violent "rap culture" influence.)

3. Increased normalization of ritualized violence desensitizes the entire society. Read what happened at the Roman Coliseum, early centuries.

4. The goal is to hurt, bloody, or perhaps maim the opponent by any "legal" means. This goal is not the same goal with other sports--not even traditional wrestling. But if I'm wrong there about other sports--and that *is* the goal, then other sport is very ungodly too.

Oh yes, the "sport" of boxing is of a similar ilk, where men in the course of their jobs have punched each other into comas, or have (over time) beaten each other into half brain-dead incoherent states (heard Muhammad Ali speak lately?) all in the name of "sports" and your entertainment. After all, there's an aspect of art and high drama to their performances. Of course, Malchus' chopped off ear was restored by Jesus Christ, but Mike Tyson's victim had to find a different healer. (Can ya...'ear me now?... tap, tap.)

Admittedly, I have not seen any MMA, but have read about how it struggled to become even legal, due to its history of brutality.

Apparently, some fine Christian men and women are able to compartmentalize all the above--to shunt it away to a different brain circuit on Sunday morning, and get down to pray through with a sinner at the altar--that the seeker might receive the Spirit of the "Prince of Peace" into their hearts and tongues.
Mark Bennett
Sacramento

"Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord: "
Paul, (or some say Paul)
Tarsus.

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I was watching a fight the other night between two guys I really hadn't heard of, but I noticed one of the guys had written on his shirt "Jesus didn't tap!". Kinda silly, but when you think about it, Jesus really was the Ultimate Fighter.

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[QUOTE=MarcBee;594194]
Uh actually yeah. Look if you are in the middle of the Sunday morning or evening service and your mind flashes to the last UFC fight you saw it might be one of two things. First the preacher is horrible and needs to quit or #2 it is an issue that needs to be resolved (anything taking place of God worship is not good thus one needs to stop watching). There is nothing at all wrong with this stuff. Infact my pastor watches it and he is one of the best and most holy people I know. Thanks for your opinion MB, but for me the guide you have given doesn't fit.

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I saw that too. It was in the Houston Alexander fight. Good thought!

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Yeah, I know I trained them....:cheer


:woohoo

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So you can kick the devil out of anyone while in the church house and out? Good!


:ursofunny

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Training is a part of it you know...:ursofunny

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:evilglee and now good by for a while....ladies do have to stop training and fix them men some lunch...thanks to Eve...

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I plan to train with Erik Paulson this Sunday. We will be training 'standing grappling,' takedowns, and submissions. Extremely talented dude.

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Do any of you UFC fans rememeber Joe Diesel Riggs? I saw him this weekend at a Rage in the Cage event in Northern Arizona. He was not fighting but he trained with a few guys and he was a corner man for a couple of them. I heard he used to be like 300 lbs. Now he might be 170-180. Cool tattoos.

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Joe Riggs was the recipient of a nasty harai goshi from Cory Devela. Good throw.

The training with Erik Paulson was awesome! I weighed 184 on Saturday, but weighed myself this morning at 179. I lost 5 pounds yesterday! It was a crazy intense workout which lasted from 10am till about 5pm. Rolled a lot and learned a lot with about 40 other guys. Paulson was very personable and is extremely good at what he does.

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Yeah, that would take the fight right out of you.



About the training, maybe I need something like that.

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Bump

Did anyone watch the fights the other night? The Lytle fight was one of the best I have ever seen!

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I wasn't able to catch them. I read that that was a great fight. I believe that the Silva/Cote fight is coming up next weekend.

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WHo eventually beat the guy who beat Gracie? And did that guy ever coem back? Did Gracie ever come back after he lost that superfight??

Any one know which UFC I could find those fights in?

BTW... Nothing beats the first 5 UFCs.

They were the closest thing to real life self deffense against opponents of all sizes, disciplines and skills. with ... NO rules!! awesome.

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Are you talking about the most recent one with Matt Hughes? If so, I think that Matt Sera beat Hughes then George St. Pierre beat Matt Sera. I think St Pierre is still king at that weight division.

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You are right the Silva fight is on Saturday. You are also right about GSP being the top of his division. He is the Champ. There are rumors circling that later next year that Silva could face GSP even though they are not the same weight class. That could prove to be the greatest fight in UFC history.

As far as the Lytle fight you can see it on youtube I would suppose. It was two men standing going to blows. There was some amazing strikes but not much blood so it was clean and fierce at the same time. Serra did beat Hughes and GSP was able to avenge his loss to Serra I think it was in the beginning of the year or maybe the end of '07.

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Most of you MMA fans have probably seen this but EliteXC is done, doors closed, Kimbo Slice and Gina Carano are out of jobs. Gina is one bad chica! Kimbo can go back to basement brawls for all I care, but Carano is the face of womens MMA and besides her good looks she is ultra talented and is a world champion Muy Thai fighter. She might do good for the UFC if they want to start a womens division.

Here is the story...

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/mma/