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Sister Alvear 09-19-2008 04:16 PM
New dress standard for MEN preachers...
 
"But the priests ... shall be clothed with linen garments; and no wool shall come upon them. They shall have linen bonnets upon their heads, and shall have linen breeches upon their loins; they shall not gird themselves with any thing that causeth sweat." -- Ezekiel 44:15-18

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Sister Alvear 09-19-2008 04:16 PM
Re: New dress standard for MEN preachers...
 
boy, I like that linen bonnets...

SDG 09-19-2008 04:17 PM
Re: New dress standard for MEN preachers...
 
Sister Alvear ... a pot stirrer????

he... he ... he.

SDG 09-19-2008 04:19 PM
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Who knew sweat was unholy?

Pentecost has got to slow it down ....

Running the aisles ... nixed.

Wool suits ... will split hell wide open.

Sister Alvear 09-19-2008 04:19 PM
Re: New dress standard for MEN preachers...
 
Daniel, I want to buy your bonnet!

SDG 09-19-2008 04:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sister Alvear (Post 593694)
Daniel, I want to buy your bonnet!
Let's make it a business venture sister A.

www.holinessapostolicbonnets.com

What say ye? :friend

:ursofunny

Sister Alvear 09-19-2008 04:21 PM
Re: New dress standard for MEN preachers...
 
I really want my sisters to get busy making bonnets for the next UC conference! All funds go to missions...

Sister Alvear 09-19-2008 04:22 PM
Re: New dress standard for MEN preachers...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 593695)
Let's make it a business venture sister A.

www.holinessapostolicbonnets.com

What say ye? :friend

:ursofunny
I think so maybe others will join our venture...

SDG 09-19-2008 04:22 PM
Re: New dress standard for MEN preachers...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sister Alvear (Post 593696)
I really want my sisters to get busy making bonnets for the next UC conference! All funds go to missions...

I thought we were outsourcing to China?

SDG 09-19-2008 04:23 PM
Re: New dress standard for MEN preachers...
 
How about

www.Holinesspreacherbonnets.com ?

SDG 09-19-2008 04:24 PM
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Are those praise hankys made of linen?

It's scripture and we have to it play safe.

I'd rather make to heaven than get it wrong and pay eternally.

We know God NEVER CHANGES.

SDG 09-19-2008 04:27 PM
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So I'm thinking ....

even their Fruit of the Loom can't be cotton, sis!!!!

We could start a whole preacher interior line made of anointed linen.

SDG 09-19-2008 04:29 PM
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Don't suit jackets cause sweat?

Hey Chester, who knew it ???.... the relevant preachers got it right.

Ban the suit jackets org-wide .... they are sweat magnets.

Sister Alvear 09-19-2008 04:29 PM
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cheap labor in Brazil too!

SDG 09-19-2008 04:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sister Alvear (Post 593704)
cheap labor in Brazil too!
True dat. He's putting all the pieces together, Mama Alvear.

And you are in Brazil ...

coinkingdink? I think not.

I know this is divinely ordained. It has to be ... it's in His Word.

I think we could even start an org based on this .... there are so many compromisers out there ....

We must stay true to old paths .....

Want to be presiding Bishop?

SDG 09-19-2008 04:33 PM
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Our preachers would look soooooooooo cuuuuuuuuuuute in bonnets.

RevDWW 09-19-2008 04:41 PM
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So....how would this jive with the man praying with his head covered thing in ICor? :whistle

Sister Alvear 09-19-2008 04:48 PM
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I'll just sell bonnets and let them debate the issue! ha...

Sister Alvear 09-19-2008 04:50 PM
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:nutso
now no sweating...boy that is a good one!

MikeinAR 09-19-2008 04:57 PM
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The no sweating scripture definitely calls for a mass suit coat burning! Cast your sweaty garments from thee, ye preachers and saints!!

Tina 09-19-2008 05:02 PM
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:toofunny

It's been one of those really rough days... I desperately needed to laugh.

Thanks Sis Alvear & Dan A...

Sister Alvear 09-19-2008 05:21 PM
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so welcome...

jaxfam6 09-19-2008 05:44 PM
Re: New dress standard for MEN preachers...
 
Thank you for the laugh.

Your humor is great

Sorry Sis A but I think we need to leave the bonnets out, to many would end up with bees in their bonnet.

SDG 09-19-2008 05:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeinAR (Post 593719)
The no sweating scripture definitely calls for a mass suit coat burning! Cast your sweaty garments from thee, ye preachers and saints!!
Gives new meaning to ...

BE YE HOLEY.

SDG 09-19-2008 06:11 PM
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Alvear & Alicea are proud to announce they are in negotiations with various prominent preachers who have shown interest in endorsing our Holiness Preacher Bonnets ... our fall and winter line is in production ...

http://www.respiracreative.com/jakesbonnet.jpg

SDG 09-19-2008 06:26 PM
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http://www.respiracreative.com/warrenbonnet.jpg

Pastor DTSalaz 09-19-2008 06:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 593747)
Alvear & Alicea are proud to announce they are in negotiations with various prominent preachers who have shown interest in endorsing our Holiness Preacher Bonnets ... our fall and winter line is in production ...

http://www.respiracreative.com/jakesbonnet.jpg

That would truly be a classic. Lol

SDG 09-19-2008 06:34 PM
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http://www.respiracreative.com/bookerbonnet.jpg

stmatthew 09-19-2008 06:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 593754)


That one would be a Connet. :)

SDG 09-19-2008 06:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stmatthew (Post 593755)
That one would be a Connet. :)
:ursofunny

ROFL

Sister Alvear 09-19-2008 06:56 PM
Re: New dress standard for MEN preachers...
 
I just showed this to my husband...he did not like that scripture but I told him he must obey or................
He wants to know the name of our new organization????????????Daniel what will we name our new organization?

Yes, since Brother Epley has delayed my ordaining service maybe the new organization can just go ahead and make me a presiding bishop.

Evang.Benincasa 09-19-2008 07:05 PM
Re: New dress standard for MEN preachers...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sister Alvear (Post 593763)
I just showed this to my husband...he did not like that scripture but I told him he must obey or................
He wants to know the name of our new organization????????????Daniel what will we name our new organization?

Yes, since Brother Epley has delayed my ordaining service maybe the new organization can just go ahead and make me a presiding bishop.
Presiding Bishop? Your kidding right Sister?

Sister Alvear 09-19-2008 07:12 PM
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yes, just being light hearted...read the whole thread...

SDG 09-20-2008 08:14 AM
Re: New dress standard for MEN preachers...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sister Alvear (Post 593763)
I just showed this to my husband...he did not like that scripture but I told him he must obey or................
He wants to know the name of our new organization????????????Daniel what will we name our new organization?

Yes, since Brother Epley has delayed my ordaining service maybe the new organization can just go ahead and make me a presiding bishop.
We wouldn't have it any other way ... sis. You have to be the first GS.

How 'bout ...

Bonneteers of Linened Apostolic Holiness (BLAH)?

Can I be on the board?

SDG 09-20-2008 08:21 AM
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Hey Sister Alvear ... I'm thinking of wearing this Holiness Linen Suit this Sunday ...

Of course I'd have to find a matching line shirt and tie. I'm just concerned that I might perspire with the tie on.

Are there any loopholes in the Law for this?

http://cdn.overstock.com/images/products/P10685896.jpg

Michael Phelps 09-20-2008 08:22 AM
Re: New dress standard for MEN preachers...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sister Alvear (Post 593763)
I just showed this to my husband...he did not like that scripture but I told him he must obey or................
He wants to know the name of our new organization????????????Daniel what will we name our new organization?

Yes, since Brother Epley has delayed my ordaining service maybe the new organization can just go ahead and make me a presiding bishop.
Hahahaha, I would tell them if they want to hold onto the flimsy scriptures against women preachers, they HAVE to adhere to the bonnet scripture, Sis!

Funny how we pick and choose and justify our choosiness!

Excellent thread!:ursofunny

SDG 09-20-2008 08:34 AM
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Our Articles of Faith should include why our use of linen among our preacher Levitical class is a sign of our anointed place and separation for God, sister A ...

I broke night ... drafting the following:

Quote:
Qualities of linen

The length of the fibre is variable; some fibres can be up to 40 inches long but 10-15 inches are more common. Just like people, all the fibres are different; but the strongest, most helpful fibres are the longest and add to the strength of the entire fabric.

Fibre fineness is also variable. Width is variable along the length of the fibre and the fibre processing also affects the fineness of the fibres. Processed flax fibres have a high natural lustre or shine; in other words it reflects light. We know we are to be a ‘light’ to the world. Christ is frequently referred to as a bearer of light. He will soon take over Satan’s role as Day Star or Morning Star of this planet.

Flax is one of the strongest fibres. It also increases about 20% in strength when wet. Just as with flax, we are the strongest when we are as close to God as possible. It is the Holy Spirit that ties us together with God and gives us strength and wisdom to get through all things.

Flax is one of the heavier fibres, and it has very good wicking properties. In other words, it soaks up liquid. It was used as wicks in the Tabernacle and in the Temple.

Flax is hollow causing it to absorb moisture readily. It can absorb sound because it is hollow and for this reason it makes a good wall covering. Remember, there was a set of linen curtains that covered the interior or inside of the Tabernacle. There were also linen curtains that separated the courtyard from the camp of Israel.

Linen does not have the electrostatic properties of many fibres, so it does not have a great affinity for attracting lint, hair or other foreign particles as many textiles do. This means it stays clean and pure just as we should do.

Linen is soft and the more it is washed the softer it becomes. Just as with us we should be gentler, softer, more flexible and workable in God’s hands the longer we are in the Church. Hebrews 10:22 tells us to have our conscience washed with pure water.

Linen can be manufactured so that it has great dimensional stability; and it will not shrink. Similarly, we should not be tossed around by every wind of doctrine. We should be grounded on God’s word and never shrink away from upholding the truth.

The fabric becomes softer, whiter and more luminous (shiny) with each washing, BUT linen becomes brittle when dried out completely. Linen can recover its natural flexibility by absorbing moisture. Here too people are like linen. If we are disobedient and do not follow God’s Laws we too will become brittle and break easily or be torn off the body of the Church. Just as when we repent and change our ways we too can again be filled with the Holy Spirit (or water) and become useful in God’s hands.

Linen quality is by its shade of white. Some complain how wrinkled linen becomes and how hard it is to iron. The answer is that the linen must be damp; in other words have moisture in it with a very hot iron. Not with a heavy iron nor with a steam iron, but with a very hot iron. So too, God allows us to be tried by fire to refine or cleanse us to be useful sons and daughters in His temple. We need to have our robes free from spot or wrinkle.

So as we can see, people, like flax, go through a growth process in the Holy Spirit – water. The entire person or plant is used in the process. There are times when there are trials, or refinement processes to get rid of the imperfections or sins of the person or the plant. Once finished, the person or the planet can become part of bigger work as in the family of God. We reflect God’s light but we must maintain our level of obedience to God’s Law to retain God’s Holy Spirit, or water that truly keeps us soft, flexible and useful in His plan.

AmazingGrace 09-20-2008 08:35 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 593830)
We wouldn't have it any other way ... sis. You have to be the first GS.

How 'bout ...

Bonneteers of Linened Apostolic Holiness (BLAH)?

Can I be on the board?
Love it! But honestly Dan... how will we know if their Bonnets ties are long enough?! Is there a manual being written?

SDG 09-20-2008 08:40 AM
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If you are a preacher and you are wearing Fruit of the Doom ... you must reconsider ... there is a reason why GOD CHOSE LINEN BREECHES ... it's to make us separate ....

Quote:

Comments from Easton’s Bible Dictionary
“(1.) Heb., pishet, pishtah, denotes "flax," of which linen is made (Isa 19:9); wrought flax, i.e., "linen cloth", Lev 13:47, 48, 52, 59; Deu 22:11.

Flax was early cultivated in Egypt (Exd 9:31), and also in Palestine (Jos 2:6; Hsa 2:9). Various articles were made of it: garments (2Sa 6:14), girdles (Jer 13:1), ropes and thread (Ezek. 40:3), napkins (Luk. 24:12; Jhn. 20:7), turbans (Eze 44:18), and lamp-wicks (Isa 42:3).

(2.) Heb. buts, "whiteness;" rendered "fine linen" in 1 Chr. 4:21; 15:27; 2Ch 2:14; 3:14; Est 1:6; 8:15, and "white linen" 2Ch 5:12. It is not certain whether this word means cotton or linen.

(3.) Heb. Bad SHD 906; possibly from 909 rendered "linen" Exd 28:42; 39:28; Lev 6:10; 16:4, 23, 32; 1Sa 2:18; 2Sa 6:14, etc. It is uniformly used of the sacred vestments worn by the priests. The word is from a root signifying "separation".

(4.) Heb. SHD 8336 shesh; rendered "fine linen" Exd 25:4; 26:1, 31, 36, etc. In Pro 31:22 it is rendered in Authorized Version "silk," and in Revised Version "fine linen." The word denotes Egyptian linen of peculiar whiteness and fineness ( byssus). The finest Indian linen, the finest now made, 100 threads of warp and 84 of woof per inch; while the Egyptian had sometimes 140 in the warp and 64 in the woof. This was the usual dress of the Egyptian priest. Pharaoh arrayed Joseph in a dress of linen (Gen 41:42).

(5.) Heb. 'etun. Pro 7:16, "fine linen of Egypt;" in Revised Version, "the yarn of Egypt."

(6.) Heb. sadin. Pro 31:24, "fine linen;" in Revised Version, "linen garments" (Jdg. 14:12,13; Isa 3:23). From this Hebrew word is probably derived the Greek word sindon, rendered "linen" in Mar 14:51, 52; 15:46; Mat 27:59.

The word ‘linen’ is used as an emblem of moral purity (Rev 15:6). In Luke 16:19 it is mentioned as “a mark of luxury.”

From Easton, we see there are different types of linen and as we go through the white garments of the priest or High Priest we will try to clarify which type of linen is being described. Even the meaning of Bad (SHD 906) indicates separation and clearly the priests were separate and set apart by God for a holy purpose. Shesh (SHD 8336) rendered "fine linen”, denotes Egyptian linen of peculiar whiteness and fineness. Again the priests are to reflect God’s light and Law to the entire planet. Here we see even the dress of the priest was to have the pure white reflective quality. SHD 8336 was also the type of linen that curtains in the Tabernacle were made of (Ex. 26:1).

Spiritual implication of the Linen as used in the Priest’s White Garments

Exodus 28:42-43 states: "and you shall make for them linen breeches to cover their bare flesh; they shall reach from the loins even to the thighs. And they shall be on Aaron and on his sons when they enter the tent of meeting or when they approach the altar to minister in the holy place, so that they do not incur guilt and die. It shall be a statute forever to him and to his descendants after him."

Linen breeches were for modesty. Priests’ garments were for glory and beauty (Ex. 28:2,40). Part of this beauty was the priest demonstrating modesty. So too should it be with us. In Ephesians 6:14 we see that our loins are to be gird with the truth. Truth is central to the Faith. We must always remain loyal to God’s truth and keep His Law. Without God’s truth we are spiritually dead.

There are five incidents or times linen breeches are used in Scripture. All five occurrences or times use bad (Heb. SHD 906). Exodus 28:42, 39:28 and Leviticus 6:10 refer to the priests’ linen breeches. The text in Leviticus 16:4 talks of the High Priest’s linen breeches and dress on Atonement. Lastly, Ezekiel 44:18 speaks of the dress for the future priests of Zadok in the Temple system. Though people really do not see the priest’s linen breeches they separate the priests from other people just as the truth of God separates us from our friends and family
Of course, the saints can't see our linen breeches ... and since Holiness is displayed outwardly also .... the bonnets are God's sign to a lost world of our Royal Priesthood (1 Peter 2:9)

Michael Phelps 09-20-2008 08:43 AM
Re: New dress standard for MEN preachers...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 593855)
If you are a preacher and you are wearing Fruit of the Doom ... you must reconsider ... there is a reason why GOD CHOSE LINEN BREECHES ... it's to make us separate ....



Of course, the saints can't see our linen breeches ... and since Holiness is displayed outwardly also .... the bonnets are God's sign to a lost world of our Royal Priesthood (1 Peter 2:9
Wow, this is revelation! Come out from among them and be ye separate......


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