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Joelel 09-21-2008 11:01 AM

The word God
 
Was Yahshua ever referred to as God. I been told the name Yahshua was changed to God.What do you say ? Did Yahshua ever mean for man to refer to him as God ?

jimmyrrs 09-21-2008 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Joelel (Post 594305)
Was Yahshua ever referred to as God. I been told the name Yahshua was changed to God.What do you say ? Did Yahshua ever mean for man to refer to him as God ?

I'm not sure. I have read the following. YESHUA, is believed by some scholars and religious groups to be the Hebrew or Aramaic name for Jesus. It is extensively used by Messianic Jews and Hebrew Christians, as well as others, who wish to use what they believe to be the original Hebraic pronunciation of Jesus' name. This pronunciation and spelling, as with many religious and scholarly issues, remains the subject of ongoing debate.

I would like to know where you got the name YAHSHUA?

nahkoe 09-21-2008 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmyrrs (Post 594423)
I'm not sure. I have read the following. YESHUA, is believed by some scholars and religious groups to be the Hebrew or Aramaic name for Jesus. It is extensively used by Messianic Jews and Hebrew Christians, as well as others, who wish to use what they believe to be the original Hebraic pronunciation of Jesus' name. This pronunciation and spelling, as with many religious and scholarly issues, remains the subject of ongoing debate.

I would like to know where you got the name YAHSHUA?

It'd be a transliteration from the Hebrew. Because a transliteration is one's best attempt at making a word that sounds like the word it's coming from, there are variations in pronunciations.

nahkoe 09-21-2008 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Joelel (Post 594305)
Was Yahshua ever referred to as God. I been told the name Yahshua was changed to God.What do you say ? Did Yahshua ever mean for man to refer to him as God ?

Do you mean Jesus, Yeshua, or God, Yahwah/Yahveh?

Either way, Elohim and variations are used frequently to refer to God/Yahveh in the Old Testament, and Jesus/Yeshua makes it clear He *is* God in the New Testament. They are one at the same...so God seems to work in English fairly well.

jimmyrrs 09-21-2008 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by nahkoe (Post 594438)
Do you mean Jesus, Yeshua, or God, Yahwah/Yahveh?

Either way, Elohim and variations are used frequently to refer to God/Yahveh in the Old Testament, and Jesus/Yeshua makes it clear He *is* God in the New Testament. They are one at the same...so God seems to work in English fairly well.

Thanks for the lesson. I enjoy learning about other people, life styles and cultures.

nahkoe 09-21-2008 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmyrrs (Post 594442)
Thanks for the lesson. I enjoy learning about other people, life styles and cultures.

:) Me too.

You might enjoy www.allon.org (and the church Robert Allon pastors is www.rfww.org) if you want to learn more about this. There's a links page on the Allon ministries site, there's some interesting reading on those sites too.

Praxeas 09-21-2008 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Joelel (Post 594305)
Was Yahshua ever referred to as God. I been told the name Yahshua was changed to God.What do you say ? Did Yahshua ever mean for man to refer to him as God ?

Where was the name Yeshua changed to God?

Yeshua, however is the contracted form of Yhoshua which means YHWH salvation

Joelel 11-05-2008 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by jimmyrrs (Post 594423)
I'm not sure. I have read the following. YESHUA, is believed by some scholars and religious groups to be the Hebrew or Aramaic name for Jesus. It is extensively used by Messianic Jews and Hebrew Christians, as well as others, who wish to use what they believe to be the original Hebraic pronunciation of Jesus' name. This pronunciation and spelling, as with many religious and scholarly issues, remains the subject of ongoing debate.

I would like to know where you got the name YAHSHUA?

Sorry,this thread got covered up fast and then I forgot about it. I think my thought was,If a person referred to the creator as God,how does a person know what god is being talked about if he is not referred to by name ? There are many gods.

You can do a search on God's name.

http://search.live.com/results.aspx?...E&q=Yehowshuwa

http://search.live.com/results.aspx?...M=IE7RE&q=YHWH

http://www.plim.org/JesusOrigin.htm

http://www.newhopebiblechurch.info/whoisjesus.html

And so on.

Praxeas 11-06-2008 02:24 PM

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God, in the bible, is clear as to WHO it is speaking to in both context, grammar and definition.

In the NT there is one word used, Theos, And the bible says clearly there is ONE Theos. IF Jesus is called THEOS Jesus must be THAT theos.

THEOS is not a name.

Second THEOS is used with definite articles. THE Theos or THE GOD. For example if I said "The President" you would know there is just ONE...if I said A president, you'd know I meant one of many.

Jesus was called THE God...for example He is Emmanuel, Then God WITH us.

Thomas called him "The God of me and The Lord of me"

Michael The Disciple 11-06-2008 10:40 PM

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In Hebrew the words for God are El, Eloah, Elohim.

Sam 11-06-2008 10:54 PM

Re: The word God
 
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Originally Posted by Joelel (Post 594305)
Was Yahshua ever referred to as God. I been told the name Yahshua was changed to God.What do you say ? Did Yahshua ever mean for man to refer to him as God ?

Yeshua or Yehosua or Iesous or Jesus is called God.
God is not a name.
God or god designates deity.
There are many gods but only one God.
The name of the one true God is Jesus or Yeshua or Yehoshua or Iesous.

A couple places I can think of right now where Jesus/Yeshua/Yehosua is called God are:

And we [have seen and] know [positively] that the Son of God has [actually] come to this world and has given us understanding and insight [progressively] to perceive (recognize) and come to know better and more clearly Him Who is true; and we are in Him Who is true--in His Son Jesus Christ (the Messiah). This [Man] is the true God and Life eternal.
1 John 5:20 KJV

13 looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ, 14 who gave Himself for us, that He might redeem us from every lawless deed and purify for Himself His own special people, zealous for good works. Titus 2:13-14 KJV

26 And after eight days His disciples were again inside, and Thomas with them. Jesus came, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, “Peace to you!” 27 Then He said to Thomas, “Reach your finger here, and look at My hands; and reach your hand here, and put it into My side. Do not be unbelieving, but believing.”
28 And Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!”
29 Jesus said to him, “Thomas, because you have seen Me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”
John 20:26-29

These are three different people who called Jesus God.
first, the Apostle John said that Jesus is "the true God."
second, the Apostle Paul called Him "our great God and Savior Jesus Christ."
third, the Apostle Thomas called Him "my Lord (Greek Kurios, Hebrew YHWH) and my God (Greek Theos, Hebrew Elohim)"

Joelel 11-08-2008 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 625748)
In Hebrew the words for God are El, Eloah, Elohim.

What does Elohim, El, Eloah, mean in Hebrew ?


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