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deacon blues 09-24-2008 07:22 AM

What Are The Compelling Reasons To Vote FOR Obama?
 
Okay Dan and company. Here's your chance to list the compelling logic behind voting for Obama.

My guesses:

1.) He's young
2.) He is a good speaker
3.) He makes me feel good
4.) He illicits hope
5.) He's cool
6.) All my friends like him

jaxfam6 09-24-2008 07:33 AM

Re: What Are The Compelling Reasons To Vote FOR Ob
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by deacon blues (Post 596205)
Okay Dan and company. Here's your chance to list the compelling logic behind voting for Obama.

My guesses:

1.) He's young
2.) He is a good speaker
3.) He makes me feel good
4.) He illicits hope
5.) He's cool
6.) All my friends like him


UMMMMMM .....................................


can I get back to you on that one? I just don't seem to be smart enough to know.


:ursofunny

TRFrance 09-24-2008 08:20 AM

Re: What Are The Compelling Reasons To Vote FOR Ob
 
Wow.
As many McCain Palin bashers as we have on this forum, you mean none of them can come and tell us the compelling reasons to vote for Obama?

What about Dan, who said McCain voters were more voting for Palin or against Obama than FOR McCain? Let's hear his compelling reasons.

The silence is deafening.

Pressing-On 09-24-2008 08:48 AM

Re: What Are The Compelling Reasons To Vote FOR Ob
 
"I felt this thrill going up my leg."

:D

mizpeh 09-24-2008 09:13 AM

Re: What Are The Compelling Reasons To Vote FOR Ob
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by deacon blues (Post 596205)
Okay Dan and company. Here's your chance to list the compelling logic behind voting for Obama.

My guesses:

1.) He's young
2.) He is a good speaker
3.) He makes me feel good
4.) He illicits hope
5.) He's cool
6.) All my friends like him

I think that is what my daughter thought when she heard him speak near her college in the spring.

And He is all about "change". :)

Ferd 09-24-2008 09:30 AM

Re: What Are The Compelling Reasons To Vote FOR Ob
 
he was a community organizer!

Pressing-On 09-24-2008 09:34 AM

Re: What Are The Compelling Reasons To Vote FOR Ob
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 596309)
he was a community organizer!

:ursofunny:ursofunny

MrsMcD 09-24-2008 09:34 AM

Re: What Are The Compelling Reasons To Vote FOR Ob
 
None

SOUNWORTHY 09-24-2008 11:16 AM

Re: What Are The Compelling Reasons To Vote FOR Ob
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 596309)
he was a community organizer!

Is that community or communist?

I gave my ten reasons on another post but here they are again:

1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.

If that's not enough I can give you a million more just as good!!:evilglee

Jack Shephard 09-24-2008 11:20 AM

Re: What Are The Compelling Reasons To Vote FOR Ob
 
What has he done that makes him worh electing? Other than being a polar opposite of GWB is there any real reason to vote for him? Have you that are voting for him considered that what he is proposing would destroy the economy worse than it is now?

Dedicated Mind 09-24-2008 01:04 PM

Re: What Are The Compelling Reasons To Vote FOR Ob
 
He will tax the rich
Bring down the deficit
Balance the budget
Bring economic prosperity
Save social security
Make college more affordable
Expand healthcare for all Americans
Strenghthen international institutions
Bring peace to the middle east
Lead us away from oil dependency

dansamy 09-24-2008 01:17 PM

Re: What Are The Compelling Reasons To Vote FOR Ob
 
How will he:

reduce the deficit?
balance the budget?
bring economic prosperity?
save social security?
make college more affordable?
expand healthcare for all Americans?
strengthen international institutions?
bring peace to the middle east? (HA! That's a good one. President's for the last 40 years have been trying to get those people to agree on peace. It hasn't happened yet, and it's not gonna happen anytime soon.)
lead us away from oil dependency?

Deficit reduction? Well he hasn't proposed reduction in government spending. He's actually proposed many more new government social welfare programs that are expensive. So spending reduction isn't it. There's only one other source with which to fund these programs. Taxes.

Balanced budget? Again, he can't balance it by reducing spending due to all the new programs he wants to initiate. More taxes.

Economic prosperity? I don't see economic prosperity in more taxes. I just see more taxes. And so will the company that employs you. And the companies you buy things from. Those taxes have to come from somewhere. Lower wages, less benefits and higher prices.

Social security? More taxes.

Affordable college? Another government program to subsidize your education = more taxes.

Government healthcare? Taxes

International institutions? Foreign aid, sounds like more taxes to me.

Peace? I already said what I thought about that.

Oil dependency? It's gonna take a looooong time. Which is why we should have started 20 years ago. But now is better than never.

Jekyll 09-24-2008 01:19 PM

Re: What Are The Compelling Reasons To Vote FOR Ob
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by deacon blues (Post 596205)
Okay Dan and company. Here's your chance to list the compelling logic behind voting for Obama.

My guesses:

1.) He's young
2.) He is a good speaker With telepromts and highly edited media clips
3.) He makes me feel good Not me
4.) He illicits hope To professional welfare recipients
5.) He's cool IF you're a terrorist
6.) All my friends like him I can't help it if your friends have no life away from the media lol

Not much to go with here.

Ferd 09-24-2008 01:20 PM

Re: What Are The Compelling Reasons To Vote FOR Ob
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 596551)
He will tax the rich
Bring down the deficit
Balance the budget
Bring economic prosperity
Save social security
Make college more affordable
Expand healthcare for all Americans
Strenghthen international institutions
Bring peace to the middle east
Lead us away from oil dependency

Dont forget making the oceans stop rising and the earth stop getting hotter... he actually has made these claims....

Ferd 09-24-2008 01:26 PM

Re: What Are The Compelling Reasons To Vote FOR Ob
 
Please note, to accomplish the spending goals Barak Obama has set, he needs to remove nearly 3 tirillion dollars from the American Economy.

Per his tax plan, 1000% of that nearly 3 trillion dollars will come from large businesses and wealthy earners.

large businesses and wealthy earners (which are generally small business owners), are the people who do the hiring in this country.


Hint removing nearly 3 trillion dollars from the economy isnt exactly a stimulas package.

Pressing-On 09-24-2008 01:27 PM

Re: What Are The Compelling Reasons To Vote FOR Ob
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 596576)
Dont forget making the oceans stop rising and the earth stop getting hotter... he actually has made these claims....

"..this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal;..."

Jekyll 09-24-2008 01:28 PM

Re: What Are The Compelling Reasons To Vote FOR Ob
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 596551)
He will tax the rich
Bring down the deficit The lower 50% of earners pay 3% of the taxes. How much more can the rich get taxed?? Who determines who is rich? This is Socialism at it's best.
Balance the budget See above. See above...How?
Bring economic prosperity Again, see above...How?
Save social security A gov't program that steals from the wage earners to give to professional welfare and medicaid benefactors.
Make college more affordable How?
Expand healthcare for all Americans AND balance the budget???????
Strenghthen international institutions LOL especially Libya, Iran, and al-queda
Bring peace to the middle east By offering up the freedom of America and Israel
Lead us away from oil dependency You mean from dependence on American oil and other forms of energy, see directly above

Even less to go with here and scarier for any freedom-loving, hard working, entreprenurial, & enterprising AMERICAN!

drummerboy_dave 09-24-2008 06:39 PM

Re: What Are The Compelling Reasons To Vote FOR Ob
 
Hope no one is holding their breathe waiting for responses to this question.

Oh, and add "Because he's black" to the list of guesses. I just heard that one today.

deacon blues 09-24-2008 08:20 PM

Re: What Are The Compelling Reasons To Vote FOR Ob
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by deacon blues (Post 596205)
Okay Dan and company. Here's your chance to list the compelling logic behind voting for Obama.

My guesses:

1.) He's young
2.) He is a good speaker
3.) He makes me feel good
4.) He illicits hope
5.) He's cool
6.) All my friends like him

:chirp:chirp:chirp

The crickets sound beautiful tonight, dont they?

tstew 09-24-2008 08:39 PM

Re: What Are The Compelling Reasons To Vote FOR Ob
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by deacon blues (Post 596878)
:chirp:chirp:chirp

The crickets sound beautiful tonight, dont they?

To be honest, I have not heard many people on this particular forum say that they were voting for Obama in the first place...many of them have left or no longer post.

mizpeh 09-24-2008 08:42 PM

Re: What Are The Compelling Reasons To Vote FOR Ob
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tstew (Post 596901)
To be honest, I have not heard many people on this particular forum say that they were voting for Obama in the first place...many of them have left or no longer post.

Could you count them all on one hand?:tease

tstew 09-24-2008 08:46 PM

Re: What Are The Compelling Reasons To Vote FOR Ob
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mizpeh (Post 596904)
Could you count them all on one hand?:tease

In this forum, I would say absolutely. Most of the dissention comes from people who, while not Democrat, refuse to drink the Republican Koolaid that has gotten pretty stale and frankly insulting to our personal convictions. I think that either way so much of what I think is important is going down the drain. In one scenario the conservative church will be mad about it...in the other they will be blissfully on board in spite of it.

TRFrance 09-24-2008 08:56 PM

Re: What Are The Compelling Reasons To Vote FOR Ob
 
I'll give you 10, how's that:

1. He's got a real funky name.
2. He represents the "melting pot" of what we are as America
3 His family is cute
4 He was a great community organizer
5 He's a good speaker ( and he pronounces the word nuclear, nuclear)
6 We need more hope
7 We need more change
8 Experience is overrated
9 He'd rather eat a waffle than answer tough questions
10 He's a good dancer (see video below. )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsWpvkLCvu4

OP_Carl 09-25-2008 04:30 AM

Re: What Are The Compelling Reasons To Vote FOR Ob
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by deacon blues (Post 596205)
What Are The Compelling Reasons To Vote FOR Obama?

You may recall that earlier I contemplated what was termed a "suicide vote" for the sake of preserving the Republican party. The theory is that Republican legislators will not be conflicted in resisting a President Obama, but will be conflicted about resisting a non-conservative Republican president's efforts to drag the country, and the party, to the left. There is, after all, some embarassing evidence to support this to be found in Republican congressional spending habits from 2000-2006.

Quote:

Originally Posted by OP_Carl (Post 471773)
I disagree with the premise that "the pain of an Obama presidency is in keeping with the Bible's prophecy."

I do, however, believe that a McCain presidency will take the Republican party in a direction unpalatable to we fundamental Christians. McCain isn't courting our vote because he knows we will calculate him to be the lesser of two evils come November. Some of us are becoming fed up with being taken for granted by the coalition. Very little action has followed the lip service played for our vote.

In addition, a McCain presidency will place the few remaining congressional conservatives in quite a pickle. They will fracture their own party. If Obama were president, the Rebublican legislators would at least unite to resist him.

I believe we are accountable to God for our votes, so I could not in good conscience make a "suicide vote." :nah But I've thought about it. :hmmm :uhoh

Before Sarah Palin, constitution-fundamentalist limited-government conservatives had very little compelling reasons to vote FOR McCain. McCain has been a thorn in the side of the Reagan Republican coalition for a very long time.

So only in a very tortured, strategic sense can I come up with a compelling reason to vote for Obama. It would be a very risky move. Rather than expose and correct a presumed rift in the Republican party, which would lead to a resurgence of conservatism, it might just offer license for a majority of Republican legislators to finally make that left turn they've been wanting to make for so long.

tstew 09-25-2008 10:14 AM

Re: What Are The Compelling Reasons To Vote FOR Ob
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OP_Carl (Post 597003)
You may recall that earlier I contemplated what was termed a "suicide vote" for the sake of preserving the Republican party. The theory is that Republican legislators will not be conflicted in resisting a President Obama, but will be conflicted about resisting a non-conservative Republican president's efforts to drag the country, and the party, to the left. There is, after all, some embarassing evidence to support this to be found in Republican congressional spending habits from 2000-2006.



Before Sarah Palin, constitution-fundamentalist limited-government conservatives had very little compelling reasons to vote FOR McCain. McCain has been a thorn in the side of the Reagan Republican coalition for a very long time.

So only in a very tortured, strategic sense can I come up with a compelling reason to vote for Obama. It would be a very risky move. Rather than expose and correct a presumed rift in the Republican party, which would lead to a resurgence of conservatism, it might just offer license for a majority of Republican legislators to finally make that left turn they've been wanting to make for so long.

OP, I missed your previous post that you quoted here, but I wholeheartedly agree with what you said. I would not go as far as to vote for Obama to prevent it, but I do feel like the religious right is being taken for a ride.

HappyTown 09-25-2008 10:42 AM

Re: What Are The Compelling Reasons To Vote FOR Ob
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by deacon blues (Post 596205)
Okay Dan and company. Here's your chance to list the compelling logic behind voting for Obama.


How about why some of us are not voting for McCain or Obama



My guesses:

HappyTown 09-25-2008 10:46 AM

Re: What Are The Compelling Reasons To Vote FOR Ob
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tstew (Post 597157)
I do feel like the religious right is being taken for a ride.

Well said!

MissBrattified 09-25-2008 01:12 PM

Re: What Are The Compelling Reasons To Vote FOR Ob
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TRFrance (Post 596920)
I'll give you 10, how's that:

1. He's got a real funky name.
2. He represents the "melting pot" of what we are as America
3 His family is cute
4 He was a great community organizer
5 He's a good speaker ( and he pronounces the word nuclear, nuclear)
6 We need more hope
7 We need more change
8 Experience is overrated
9 He'd rather eat a waffle than answer tough questions
10 He's a good dancer (see video below. )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsWpvkLCvu4

Actually, the video was kind of cool...but I couldn't get past his dance partner, Ellen Degenerate.

Nothing wrong with a President who knows how to move around a dance floor. :)

Knowing he can dance wouldn't cause me to vote against him. It's who he dances with--and who he's in bed with--that gives me pause.

Ferd 09-25-2008 01:31 PM

Re: What Are The Compelling Reasons To Vote FOR Ob
 
What was it Biden said about Obama?

He is clean and he speaks well?

DividedThigh 09-25-2008 01:32 PM

Re: What Are The Compelling Reasons To Vote FOR Ob
 
abortion and taxes is all i need to know about bho, dont even need the rest of the list, not a leader , dt

rgcraig 09-25-2008 01:36 PM

Re: What Are The Compelling Reasons To Vote FOR Ob
 
Wow - Daniel is completely ignoring this thread!

Ferd 09-25-2008 03:00 PM

Re: What Are The Compelling Reasons To Vote FOR Ob
 
DanA still ignoring this thread!

HappyTown 09-25-2008 03:09 PM

Re: What Are The Compelling Reasons To Vote FOR Ob
 
Dan in love...;)

TRFrance 09-25-2008 03:14 PM

Re: What Are The Compelling Reasons To Vote FOR Ob
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 597328)
Wow - Daniel is completely ignoring this thread!

Yes, I noticed.

I figured he'd be all over this thread... especially since he knocked McCain supporters for not having compelling reasons why they're voting for him.

--------
Then again, maybe Dan's doing his research --- actually trying to FIND some compelling reasons to vote for Obama. :whistle

rgcraig 09-25-2008 03:16 PM

Re: What Are The Compelling Reasons To Vote FOR Ob
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TRFrance (Post 597398)
Yes, I noticed.

I figured he'd be all over this thread... especially since he knocked McCain supporters for not having compelling reasons why their voting for him.

--------
Then again, maybe Dan's doing his research --- actually trying to FIND some compelling reasons to vote for Obama. :whistle

Or maybe he doesn't have any?

tstew 09-25-2008 03:19 PM

Re: What Are The Compelling Reasons To Vote FOR Ob
 
Has Dan said that he thinks there are compelling reasons to vote for Obama?

Those who are going to vote for him would give you reasons I'm sure.

Ferd 09-25-2008 03:22 PM

Re: What Are The Compelling Reasons To Vote FOR Ob
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tstew (Post 597404)
Has Dan said that he thinks there are compelling reasons to vote for Obama?

Those who are going to vote for him would give you reasons I'm sure.

Well, I do believe that Dan has said he is voting for Obama.

Ferd 09-25-2008 03:22 PM

Re: What Are The Compelling Reasons To Vote FOR Ob
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 597401)
Or maybe he doesn't have any?

there are 3.

1. Changy Change Change

and according to Joe Biden
2. Obama is clean
3. Obama is articulate

LadyRev 09-25-2008 03:24 PM

Re: What Are The Compelling Reasons To Vote FOR Ob
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 596551)
He will tax the rich
Bring down the deficit
Balance the budget
Bring economic prosperity
Save social security
Make college more affordable
Expand healthcare for all Americans
Strenghthen international institutions
Bring peace to the middle east
Lead us away from oil dependency


Nice fairy tale.

He might do one of the above but thats about all.

StillStanding 09-25-2008 03:42 PM

Re: What Are The Compelling Reasons To Vote FOR Ob
 
I would REALLY like to vote for Obama for a couple of reasons.

1. He seems to be intelligent
2. I would like to see a black man as president
3. He seems to have a nice family

If he:
1. Had more experience
2. Was a conservative both socially and fiscally

.......I would vote for him in a NY second! :)

But.....that is just a dream! I'll have to vote for McCain!


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