Evil Triumphs When Good People Do Nothing
 

http://enemyofgodinmeigscounty.blogspot.com/

Before anyone takes issue with this being a private matter, people in the west time zone has heard about this from the antagonists. It was made a public matter not only in the community, but all over the United States.

Everything in the blog is documented. An attorney has looked over the information. The blog isn't going anywhere until the enemy is defeated.

Let the bodies hit the floor.

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Tell us how you really feel TV ....

I surprised to see some of the people involved in this ... taking on the role of Truth police against Freedom Ministries

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Good God in Zion, what a mess. Are you the author of that piece of work? Why in the world did you feel the need to post all of that on an internet blog?

That drama has a little touch of everything. By my count, we had an evil mother-in-law, a suspect ex-pastor, several public confrontations, and a neighbor in underwear. I'm not so sure some type of movie couldn't be made out of all that.

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Only thing more stupid than the whole scene is putting it on a blog. THEN posting the link here. More church drama....no wonder evangelism is a joke in many cities.

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The reason I made it public is because not only did the liars make it public that the Ohio District was going after my pastor People in my community have been asking us what is going on. A familiar preacher on the west coast informed my sister in Michigan he heard about the witch hunt. The Dsitrict already has their stooge picked out. So who made this a national event? The Ohio District and the pot stirrers. If they can run their mouth and spread lies all over the country, I can use electronic media and other means necessary to comabt this evil.

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Tell me the best way to combat these lies. These people already made the situation public. The only difference between them and I is I'm not hiding behind a telephone, or lying about the church in the community. You fight fire with fire. These people are the enemy of God's work in my community. When they back off, I'll back off. Unless they want to kill me, they won't stop me.

I have no problem making my statements public because I know how district officials love to manipulate facts. Watch the Godfather and you get an idea how things work. Watch the Untouchables and you'll see how to stop their vindictive behavior.

Until they shut up and leave us alone, I will use every tool God has put in my disposal including national media if needed to protect God's work in my community.

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By the way certified letters went out to DEK and MJ. Copies also went to Every District board member. If they don't want to open their mail, they can read the blog. Either way, they can't say they didn't have opportunity to get the facts from someone who has been faithful to that assembly for over 15 years.

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Will be praying for y'all.

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I personally know almost all of the people in this blog. I have preached in this church. My advice, don't give them (the detractors) the time of day. They can't do anything without formal charges and then a huge "trial" would take place. The UPCI does NOT want that to happen. The pastor needs to tell them to produce the charges or leave him alone. If the pastor has congregational backing, they can always leave the org and just reach the lost.

Let the political play politics and the silly little games. There's a world to reach!!! Go get 'em!!!

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good advice...

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Politics is one thing dirty pool is another. These want to destroy what God is doing in my community. They have already convicted my pastor without a trial. If you were in that meeting with mj and dk, you would have been sick.

On the bright side, the past two sundays, we have had more non church guests and first time guest since in service. Our youth group has expanded above fifty. We've had powerful moves of God. Lives were impacted. Chains were broken. So we are reaching the world.

My mantra compared with Nehamiah's mantra. A sword in one hand, a hammer in the other. The spirit of Tobias and Sanballat won't be defeated any other way.

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They CAN'T convict your pastor without a trial. It's illegal and against the manual. If you attack them, you will lose...not because they have more power, but because as you sow, you will reap. Just do what God has called you to do and leave the judgement to others. Don't let them control you or what you do or you will get infected with bitterness. I know this sounds hard and maybe difficult, but it is the only way to true freedom and victory.

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I know you mean well. I believe 100% that God has called me to this battle. God knows my heart. He has given me insight on their mentality. The enemy acts no different than bullies at the work place. It's hard to explain, but the only way to stop the mess is with a showdown.

I'm standing against this evil because of the hundreds of people who have been adversely affected by the past history of the church and the hundreds more that will be affected in the future. I'm fighting for my children's spiritual heritage.

I've been through a lot worse than this in the name of religion to get bitter.

My motives are pure. My heart is right. I'm willing to fight to the death to protect God's work in my community. When this is over the enemy will have to watch while sets up a table for me while they are watching.

I discovered scriptural precedence for my actions. Moses had Joshua, David had Joab. Joshua and Joab risked everything for the leader God put over them. Jehu was one of the dirtiest characters in the Bible, yet God used him to overthrow a government.

For the record, the district threw their rules out the window. Sine they establised the parameters, victory will be much sweeter as they fall to their death with the sword they intended to kill the move of God in my community.

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TV, I was interested in this part of your blog:

During the Konkle era, God revealed to me some techniques to help people who desire the gift of the Holy Ghost. As I begin to implement these strategies under the anointing of the Holy Ghost, people were getting the Holy Ghost in a matter of minutes. People were not struggling, seeking, tarrying, waiting. If a person wanted the Holy Ghost, I would share with them what they needed to do. I would encourage them while they pray.

I know I do not have the power to give the Holy Ghost, but I do have the ability to help a person reach the place in their worship where they speak in tongues. We know the Bible shows tongues is the verbal evidence of the Holy Ghost.

From 2002-2004, it is estimated 150 people were baptized in Jesus Name and filled with the Holy Ghost. I was honored not only to witness, but be instrumental as a tool in God’s hands in close to 140 people initial Holy Ghost experience.

Would you mind sharing with us, either here or on a new thread, some of these techniques you implemented to help people to receive the Holy Ghost? I'd be very interested in hearing them. Thanks.

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UPDATE:

Put a prayer request on WVWNOP about God protecting my pastor and my church against the attack of the enemy. Would you know a former member of our church, who hasn't been to our church in over five years sends me a "friendly" e-mail. It's funny how she knows what's ""going on"" at my church. Again NO ONE has asked me.

This is the first time I've published private correspondence. Again know the history of the person, and knowing she attends the church where the root of this problem still lies, I have no doubt she has made it public to her minions.

I haven't felt a release in the Holy Ghost to release a response yet. I have it ready in my draft file. I'm still waiting for her pastor to do the right thing and apologize for the lies he spread about my family. I've called, left messages. He won't return my calls. He doesn't want to have a godly resolution. If anyone googles first upc ravenswood wv, you can get the church telephone # to voice your displeasure that he doesn't follow scriptural protocol explicitly outlined in scripture. I've recorded my messages onto a digital recorder. He can't say I haven't been attempting a reconciliation.

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You're in way over your head here. It's not right for you to try to drag anyone here into what you feel is a fight you must fight. You're making a big mistake and need to just let it go and be about your Father's business. His business is not about revenge and I fear that is exactly what you're trying to do.

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My pastor taught me well. I have no desire for revenge. I am fighting the fires of hell with the fire of the Holy Spirit. My battle is with spirits. My enemy is with spirits. Unfortunately those spirits work thru people. The people operating in revenge are the enemies of God in my community.

Is it worth the fight? Ask the 100 kids who come to our church each week. Ask my children. If they win the future is lost. That's why I'm willing to take no prisoners, hold no quarter to defeat this enemy. Just las ike Jehu did, the enemy of God's work in my community must be slaughtered.

We all know there is scriptural basis for this type of warfare in the heavenlies. If you don't, study it out. Rather interesting.

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Victory, victory shall be mine;
Victory, victory shall be mine,
IF I hold my peace, and let (allow, permit)
the Lord to fight my battles.
Victory, victory shall be mine.

But IF we don't let (allow, permit) the LORD (who is well able)
to fight the battles, (spiritual or other) we will not see Victory!
There are alternatives to not allowing GOD to fight our battles.

Not talking about this particular situtation, as I do not know, nor
do I want to know the details. I am speaking in general terms. God
sees it all! He knows the motives, the details. He will judge righteously
for He is ALL-KNOWING, ALL-WISE, ALMIGHTY!!!! This applies to any
situation.

Blessings,

Falla39

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MOW and Falla have given very sound advice. My limited experience with church/ pastor problems is that so many people are hurt. The scars take years to heal and sometimes never heal. My advice is to put your family first and move to a healthy church as soon as possible. ( I do not know anything of you situation, but this kind of turmoil is not healthy.) I am praying for you and your family.

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tv1a,

I agree with MOW here. The biblical guideline is to return good for evil. Do you really believe that "these people" can tear down what God has built? You do not need to defend God. He can do it, and is much more capable than you are.

I was once in the position of being attacked, and I kept my mouth shut. I didn't breathe a word to my fellow saints, or even to my friends. Vicious lies, and attacks against me from the pulpit. And I didn't even let my lip quiver or say one word against the pastor or the other people who participated. 8 years later, the truth came out in a way that not only exonerated me, but shamed every person who ever said a word against me. God took care of it. Not in the time frame I would have liked, but in a much better way than I could have done.

And the great thing is, God has my heart at a place, that when my enemy "fell", I didn't rejoice over it. But I do appreciate God taking up my cause, and trust Him to do it again, if need be.

I recommend taking the blog down, writing every name on it on a prayer list, and asking God to bless every person on the list every morning. And if you can't say it sincerely, pray until you can.

It is not our job to fight these kinds of battles, except on our knees.

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Wonderful words Miss Bratt-

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GREAT SOUND ADVICE! GREAT POST!!!

Hugs,

Falla39

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Please understand my motives.

This is not a situation where holding the peace is called for.

There are times to fight and there are times to hold one's peace.

David didn't hold his peace against Goliath.
Jesus didn't hold his peace against the moneychangers.
Paul didn't hold his peace against Peter and against the legalists.

The Bible is full of examples of cases where men of character didn't hold thier peace.

People who know me know I let a lot go under the bridge. But if it comes down to the salvation of my kids and them. They lose every time. My kids will know I stand for truth and righteousness. Even when people I have admired and respected stand against truth and righteousness.

One of the reasons I'm still serving God today is because as a kid, my father took a similar stand. My father showed me christians can be principled people. He showed me a christian doesn't have to play the "game" to be used in God's Kingdom.

If I don't fight this another generation dies and goes to hell. It's the chance I'm willing to take. I"m one guy who is willing to pick up a rock, put it in the slingshot, and aim it right at the enemy's head.

I realize this is a spiritual fight. That is why I'm using all the weapons at my disposal. God has given the blueprint for victory over our enemies.

There is no way hell is going to take my community again.

The gameplan has already achieved desired results above and beyond my expectations. The enemy is scattered and confused not knowing where the next hit will come from.

Good news, God is still blessing our youth group. Still getting all kinds of first time teens coming. We've had close to 300 kids come through our youth center since the doors open May 2008. Wonder why the devil's mad? Understand now why I'm fighting?

I beleive God is using my abilities to be a warrior in this battle. God didn't give me legal knowledge and media expertise so I could twiddle my thumbs. One hopees these abilities would be used to strengthen God's Kingdom instead of fighting against the enemies of God.

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I feel it is in the best interest of the forum this thread be locked from further comments.

It may seem strange for the thread's starter to request such action, but I would not have any problems with this thread being locked.

thnx

tv

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Troy,

I can sense your frustration and your righteous indignation on this thread. HOwever, I have to agree with others who have already posted - you should stand still and let God fight this battle.

The other problem, as I see it, is this - you've presented your case, but in so doing, you've made some accusations against ministers who are not here to defend themselves.

So, I suppose my question is this - what did you intend to accomplish with this thread?

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Maybe one doesn't understand the implications of spiritual pacificsm. There are scriptural precedence for this type of extreme warfare.

As far as bitterness, not a single bitter bone in my body. If my kids were lost because this evil element was allowed to take over, than I would be bitter. The blog stays until the battle is over. But the thread could be locked...

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Good questions.

1. Multiple attemps were made by myself to provide opportunity for scriptural reconciliation. Each attempt was ignored.

2. THis pastor made these accusations public. He lied about me just to further his agenda.

3. That minsiter could attempt to defend his actions if he wants.

4. What this preacher didn't expect was someone to play the game by the rules he plays by.

5. I expect the preacher to do the godly thing and apologize for dragging my family in his beef with an incredible man of God.

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You need to focus on the good deeds God has called you to do. You may not see it, but many here can see your justification of the wrong attitude you have in "getting back" at someone you perceive has done you wrong. You need to let God take care of it on His own.

Many of us here have experience in spiritual warfare and have won those battles. But if you use the same tactics that the enemy uses, you will lose every time. I know you don't see yourself like this, but that is because you are so close to the situation.