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I had an interesting situation about 45 minutes ago.

Some of you may remember the house we just bought the previous owner killed his wife and two children and then he was killed.

This guys father also killed his first wife by strangling her, so this family has a violent past.

The father came by on Mothers Day of this year right after we moved in and asked my husband if he could come in and see the house. As we had not been in hardly any time and still had a lot of unpacking to do, we say no not at this time.

In the meantime, my neighbor told us his history and told us do NOT have anything to do with this man. He is probably 80 years old now.

Well today while I'm home alone and my neighbor is gone, he came and opened the screen door and tried to open the door. I thought it was my husband coming home early and was having trouble getting the door open.

As I was heading to the door he knocked and I went to the door and asked what did they want. He told me who he was and that he wanted to see the inside of the house one more time. I told him he would have to come back after 7 and talk to my husband about it. He then said he had a picture he wanted to give me. When I didn't offer to open the door he said he would stick it in the door. I heard him sticking the picture in the door and I walked away from the door.

Later when I figured my husband was out of his meeting I called him and while he was on the phone I checked and didn't see his car or him and opened the door to get the picture out. It was a picture of a car with a realtor's sign in a yard. Now why would he want me to have that picture? I think he was just trying to get me to open the door.

What would you do? Would you let him see the house, or tell him that chapter his life is over? If we say no will he get mad and violent?

I have never had to deal with this kind of person before.

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Esther, i wouldnt let him near me or my family and I just might get a restraining order based on his violent past.

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That is what my neighbor told me to do.

Plus the 7 year old girl that was in the house during the trama has had to put a restraining order against him. I thought that was odd.

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Call the police and also invest in a gun!!!! :guns :hunter

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I agree. I wouldn't either. And I sure wouldn't let him in my house.

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Have plenty of them. :)

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Scary, when we bought our first home in Calif we learned real fast to always make sure about the history before you buy.

I'd call your local sheriff talk with them, maybe he could come out. When I was 16 we drove to Chico Cailf to see were my dad was raised as a kid, the lady let us come in, but we didn't have a past. My dad wanted to show us kids.

Maybe he wants closer to his past, being 80 and all. The pic might been proof he once lived there, why he left it. But I'd call your sheriff get advice!

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I feel I'm being mean to an old man, but with this families past, it is a bit scary to me.

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Get ammo and USE IT!!!!!!!!

Bang bang!

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Have ammo and will use it IF he enters the house.

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Yes, I do think that it does have the potential to be dangerous. Even at his age, I would not take the situation lightly. To be honest, I might allow him to see the inside of the house once, but I would make it clear that he is not to return uninvited ever again.

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Being Cautious no matter the man's age is always the safe thing to do!

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He has been back in the house numerous times since the incident. That is why it doesn't make sense to me that he wants to come back in.

I wonder if he wants to do the same thing his son did???

Also, he sounded aggrevated that we are not allowing him in, which I wonder if that could cause him to really become aggressive?

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Esther, please be careful. Notify the police, get the name of the policman you talk to...and make sure your house is locked at all times...I would anoint my house with oil and pray over it and the same thing outside..
Love you and will ask prayer for you and yours.

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Never know he might have hid something in the house and needs it, like money or something. Or it could be the old mans way of repenting for what he did. Maybe he is a loon and needs help.

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I was thinking this too.

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posters can now tell who watches too much tv and too many movies

ha

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That is perplexing, but I would just say that he does still clearly have some persistent desire to see the house and I'm not sure if that desire will just go away. I am certainly not telling you what to do since you are the one who has to live it. I would probably allow him one last supervised look (by me and not by my wife), and make it abundantly clear that it was for final closure and that he could not return uninvited or there would be police...or something else. I may even give him a picture or something as a final keepsake.
I will be praying for you and your family.

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Call the police and report what happened. Then go get a yard sale sign, a big one. Flip it over and write his name on it and say that he is not welcome here and that if anyone sees him to call 911...something along those lines.

Put a sign on the door, "Mr. Johnson, if you are reading this, know that I just dialed 911 and the police are on their way, and maybe a neighbor or two with a 12-gauge."

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I guess the counter argument is that the guy wants some closure.

the problem is how do you safely let the guy in the house?

How do you set up a meeting with the guy that doesnt risk being some kind of set up?

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Ask him to call the police and they can escort or lead him to what he left in the house if that is the case. Other than that I would tell him that closure happens right now, this very second. Never come to this door again unless you are invited.

If I were the husband, I would park my car around the block and just wait for this guy. I would be carrying a couple of baseballs in my hand and a bat. See how he likes a 90mph fastball from 10 feet....oops

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I'm with you. only I would be wondering if he can catch a bullet with his teeth.

second ferd rule, strange man with violent history has no access to my family.

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Do you have an alarm system? Might be a worthwhile investment right now.

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The last thing you should allow yourself to feel is like you are being mean to the old man who killed his wife and who's son killed his family.

If God sent that man to you to win to the Lord, he'd have sent him when your husband was home and you would not have fear.

Glad you have a gun. Take every precaution... lots of good advice being given.
You'll be in my prayers.

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Sis. Alvear, this is such great advice.

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My early morning thoughts on this are that he is an elderly man who may be suffering from dementia. He's "stuck" on the idea of getting in the house, for whatever reason.

That being said, don't let him in the house and keep your doors locked. He has a violent past. Every time he comes to the door...call law enforcement. It may be that they can get him the "assistance" he needs.

Beth in KY

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Write a book on his life and get rich! This is an interesting story!

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Sis Esther, if I were in your predicament, I would definitely NOT let this man in my home for any reason. I do recommend what Sis Alvear said to do also....having the house annointed with oil and prayed over. I hope you have a nice big dawg too......they are always a nice deterrant....even a small one can alert you when someone is in the yard. :) I'll be praying for you and your family.