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Praxeas 10-02-2008 12:51 AM

How Do You Know if God is Speaking to You?
 
In Christianity there is no end of people claiming God told them this or God told them that. Is it always God when someone thinks God spoke to them? I ask this because a poster said God told her that it would be ok to use a cuss word if she wanted to.... Are we prone to thinking God is speaking to us when He really is not and perhaps we are led more by feelings and over active imaginations? Just curious and BTW I've wondered this for a long time so the other post just sort of reminded me. This is not meant to be a reflection on her

hometown guy 10-02-2008 02:06 AM

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1Jn 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

OP_Carl 10-02-2008 04:30 AM

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How Do You Know if God is Speaking to You?

You'll hear the voice of George Burns or Morgan Freeman asking you to do crazy stuff you'd NEVER do otherwise . . .

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 601393)
In Christianity there is no end of people claiming God told them this or God told them that. Is it always God when someone thinks God spoke to them? I ask this because a poster said God told her that it would be ok to use a cuss word if she wanted to.... Are we prone to thinking God is speaking to us when He really is not and perhaps we are led more by feelings and over active imaginations? Just curious and BTW I've wondered this for a long time so the other post just sort of reminded me. This is not meant to be a reflection on her

This is why it is important to allocate some of our prayer time to listening, so we become more accustomed to that still, small voice.

Using just logic, easily less than one-fourth of actions taken by people believing they were spoken to by God are truly divine orders.

First, look at the actions and see if they align with scripture or not. The half that don't were performed by people who were obviously not hearing from God.

Of the remaining group of actions, it can be further divided into various categories:
Conscience
Guilt
Worry
Peer pressure
Random dreams
ulterior motives
the true voice of God

I am probably overly cautious on this subject. There is a cultural imperative to avoid anything that even remotely appears to be similar to the latter rain movement.

A lot of it has to do with our own preconceived notions. God can use anybody - ANYBODY. Somebody could come up to you with a true word from God for you, and you could reject it because they don't "look the part" in your eyes. God looks for availability, not ability.

MrsMcD 10-02-2008 06:16 AM

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I believe we blame God for too much stuff that he had nothing to do with.

PraiseHymn 10-02-2008 06:26 AM

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Its a matter of checks and balances. If and when you think God is speaking to you, it will clearly line up with His Word. Anything you want to know, is found in the Word of God and if you can find what your hearing in the Word, then you KNOW its GOD!

Timmy 10-02-2008 07:20 AM

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Had a discussion of this in Deep Waters, a while back: When God speaks.

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How likely is that God, who is a lot smarter than you and I, would use a method of communication that is unreliable, filled with potential for abuse, and is in fact abused all the time? I submit that there is no way to know whether any potential message from God is really from God or not. It's not just difficult to know. It's impossible.

If it's impossible to tell, what is the point?
This was after some of the verification methods were discussed, like lining up a message with Scripture (which may eliminate some false messages but doesn't prove any true ones) and knowing it "deep inside" (yeah, that's always reliable ;)).

ILG 10-02-2008 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 601393)
In Christianity there is no end of people claiming God told them this or God told them that. Is it always God when someone thinks God spoke to them? I ask this because a poster said God told her that it would be ok to use a cuss word if she wanted to.... Are we prone to thinking God is speaking to us when He really is not and perhaps we are led more by feelings and over active imaginations? Just curious and BTW I've wondered this for a long time so the other post just sort of reminded me. This is not meant to be a reflection on her

But it will always be a reflection.

ReformedDave 10-02-2008 08:21 AM

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The sure way is that Scripture is the voice of God today. What He reveals to me is in direct correlation to what I've hidden in my heart.

Timmy 10-02-2008 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ReformedDave (Post 601469)
The sure way is that Scripture is the voice of God today. What He reveals to me is in direct correlation to what I've hidden in my heart.

Sure way? You mean if a possible message agrees with Scripture, that proves that it literally came from God? That message, at that time?

Elizabeth 10-02-2008 10:01 AM

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I have heard it said-

God sounds like his word and his word sounds like God-

ReformedDave 10-02-2008 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 601481)
Sure way? You mean if a possible message agrees with Scripture, that proves that it literally came from God? That message, at that time?

That's not quite what I said. I'm talking not about a 'message' but about Scripture itself.

Michlow 10-02-2008 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 601393)
In Christianity there is no end of people claiming God told them this or God told them that. Is it always God when someone thinks God spoke to them? I ask this because a poster said God told her that it would be ok to use a cuss word if she wanted to.... Are we prone to thinking God is speaking to us when He really is not and perhaps we are led more by feelings and over active imaginations? Just curious and BTW I've wondered this for a long time so the other post just sort of reminded me. This is not meant to be a reflection on her

I find it amusing how we believe that it could never be God, when it doesn't fit into our little box of allowable things. It's wonder God ever got through to Peter about the whole clean/unclean thing....

(P.S. I wonder how many Christian/Jews told Peter that he was carnal and deceived, and God would never say that??)

Timmy 10-02-2008 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ReformedDave (Post 601550)
That's not quite what I said. I'm talking not about a 'message' but about Scripture itself.

Ah, I see what you mean. I misread your post, sorry.

Do you have an opinion on whether God speaks to individuals directly, today? And if so, how does the individual know if it really is God speaking?

Praxeas 10-02-2008 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MrsMcD (Post 601427)
I believe we blame God for too much stuff that he had nothing to do with.

Blame and maybe we attribute things to God he had nothing to do with...at least not directly. Remember God's rain falls on the just and the unjust. People wonder why God is blessing a Bill Gates with billions and some little guy that is faithful to God is living just above poverty....

Praxeas 10-02-2008 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ReformedDave (Post 601469)
The sure way is that Scripture is the voice of God today. What He reveals to me is in direct correlation to what I've hidden in my heart.

Amen, this is true. But what about the preacher that believes God told him to go to a specific town and start a church? No doubt the word tells us to go into all the world and preach, but it does not say which specific city

mfblume 10-02-2008 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 601393)
In Christianity there is no end of people claiming God told them this or God told them that. Is it always God when someone thinks God spoke to them? I ask this because a poster said God told her that it would be ok to use a cuss word if she wanted to.... Are we prone to thinking God is speaking to us when He really is not and perhaps we are led more by feelings and over active imaginations? Just curious and BTW I've wondered this for a long time so the other post just sort of reminded me. This is not meant to be a reflection on her

We know God is speaking to us if the Spirit we think Is His and is speaking says the same as the Word.

mfblume 10-02-2008 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 601725)
Amen, this is true. But what about the preacher that believes God told him to go to a specific town and start a church? No doubt the word tells us to go into all the world and preach, but it does not say which specific city

Right. THAT is questionable.

Praxeas 10-02-2008 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Michlow (Post 601553)
I find it amusing how we believe that it could never be God, when it doesn't fit into our little box of allowable things. It's wonder God ever got through to Peter about the whole clean/unclean thing....

(P.S. I wonder how many Christian/Jews told Peter that he was carnal and deceived, and God would never say that??)

Peter had a very real and definite vision though. It wasn't just a random thought. It wasn't just a flash in his mind...he was watching this vision play out like a short movie

BTW it does short of match with what the word was saying about the Gentiles in the OT.

Praxeas 10-02-2008 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mfblume (Post 601726)
We know God is speaking to us if the Spirit we think Is His and is speaking says the same as the Word.

Right but what about a personal revelation from God to do something or go somewhere or whatever.

1Corinth2v4 10-02-2008 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 601393)
In Christianity there is no end of people claiming God told them this or God told them that. Is it always God when someone thinks God spoke to them? I ask this because a poster said God told her that it would be ok to use a cuss word if she wanted to.... Are we prone to thinking God is speaking to us when He really is not and perhaps we are led more by feelings and over active imaginations? Just curious and BTW I've wondered this for a long time so the other post just sort of reminded me. This is not meant to be a reflection on her




Praxeas,

Unfortunately, those whom seek accolades have given an ill-reputation to all legitimate "hearers" of God. Many have damaged saints and pastors with their "thus saith the Lord" counterfeit verbiage, and for this reason many pastors abstain/prohibit this particular movement within their churches. However, no pastor should hinder victories of tomorrow with disappointments of yesterday, due to previous ill experiences.


Anyone claiming to receive granted permission from God to utilize profanity is ignorant. Can you conceive the idea of God or us needing profanity to convey a message?


Furthermore, after reading the following scripture, written within Paul's letter to the saints in Colossae, it was either carnalism or demonic influence that granted this female poster permission to utilize filthy language!

Col 3:8
80 But now you must rid yourselves of all such things as these: anger, rage, malice, slander, and filthy language from your lips





p.s. Pro 17:27 A man of knowledge uses words with restraint, and a man of understanding is even-tempered.

mfblume 10-02-2008 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 601736)
Right but what about a personal revelation from God to do something or go somewhere or whatever.

http://apostolicfriendsforum.com/sho...7&postcount=17

Praxeas 10-02-2008 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by mfblume (Post 601909)

I saw that already but my question is how does someone know they were called to a city to pastor it or does that just never happen?

Praxeas 10-02-2008 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 1Corinth2v4 (Post 601906)
Praxeas,

Unfortunately, those whom seek accolades have given an ill-reputation to all legitimate "hearers" of God. Many have damaged saints and pastors with their "thus saith the Lord" counterfeit verbiage, and for this reason many pastors abstain/prohibit this particular movement within their churches. However, no pastor should hinder victories of tomorrow with disappointments of yesterday, due to previous ill experiences.


Anyone claiming to receive granted permission from God to utilize profanity is ignorant. Can you conceive the idea of God or us needing profanity to convey a message?


Furthermore, after reading the following scripture, written within Paul's letter to the saints in Colossae, it was either carnalism or demonic influence that granted this female poster permission to utilize filthy language!

Col 3:8
80 But now you must rid yourselves of all such things as these: anger, rage, malice, slander, and filthy language from your lips





p.s. Pro 17:27 A man of knowledge uses words with restraint, and a man of understanding is even-tempered.

Im not refering to a special office in the church that can hear God and everyone else can't. Im talking about ALL Holy Ghost filled believers. How do they know they have heard from God and not just their own feelings?

1Corinth2v4 10-02-2008 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 601941)
Im not refering to a special office in the church that can hear God and everyone else can't.

I guess that's somewhat of an accurate statement, seeing God overlooked Eli and spoke directly to Samuel during his childhood. If only some pastors would capture that revelation!



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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 601941)
Im talking about ALL Holy Ghost filled believers. How do they know they have heard from God and not just their own feelings?

You align what you've supposedly received to the word of God. At other times you ask for confirmation.

Timmy 10-02-2008 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 1Corinth2v4 (Post 601956)
I guess that's somewhat of an accurate statement, seeing God overlooked Eli and spoke directly to Samuel during his childhood. If only some pastors would capture that revelation!





You align what you've supposedly received to the word of God. At other times you ask for confirmation.

How did Abraham know that God commanded him to sacrifice his son?

1Corinth2v4 10-02-2008 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 601959)
How did Abraham know that God commanded him to sacrifice his son?

He became accustomed to the audible voice of God. Have you read about his faith? :tease

Timmy 10-02-2008 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 1Corinth2v4 (Post 601985)
He became accustomed to the audible voice of God. Have you read about his faith? :tease

Does it work today?

Timmy 10-03-2008 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 601959)
How did Abraham know that God commanded him to sacrifice his son?

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Originally Posted by 1Corinth2v4 (Post 601985)
He became accustomed to the audible voice of God. Have you read about his faith? :tease

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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 601997)
Does it work today?

Is there anyone alive today who has enough faith to determine whether the audible or internal voice they hear is really God's? How does one know if they have enough faith to do this? How did Abraham know?

Brad Murphy 10-03-2008 09:29 AM

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I usually just look for a burning bush. If there isn't a burning bush or a talking donkey then it is most likely not God.

Timmy 10-03-2008 11:31 AM

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Yep. But hey, if you have a decision to make, and you want to know God's will, you could always just use Gideon's method: a fleece, left on the ground overnight. Better than a magic 8 ball! :winkgrin

Brad Murphy 10-03-2008 11:34 AM

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Why can't He just say, "Hey Brad... this is God... I'm speaking to you" (in an audible voice that is clearly not my imagination or subconscious...)

Timmy 10-03-2008 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Brad Murphy (Post 602696)
Why can't He just say, "Hey Brad... this is God... I'm speaking to you" (in an audible voice that is clearly not my imagination or subconscious...)

I dunno, but in the book "The Shack", God wrote someone a letter! ;)

mfblume 10-03-2008 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 601938)
I saw that already but my question is how does someone know they were called to a city to pastor it or does that just never happen?

I think it does happen and sometimes it does not since in some cases it is not necessary. And when it does happen, the one being spoken to and directed by the Lord will know that they know! :)

Timmy 10-03-2008 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by mfblume (Post 602757)
I think it does happen and sometimes it does not since in some cases it is not necessary. And when it does happen, the one being spoken to and directed by the Lord will know that they know! :)

Unless they're wrong. :tease

Scott Hutchinson 10-03-2008 01:23 PM

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God speaks to me through my wife cause she is always right.

Timmy 10-03-2008 01:28 PM

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God speaks to me through my wife cause she is always right.

Ah! Now there's something I can identify with! :toofunny

Timmy 10-03-2008 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 602776)
Ah! Now there's something I can identify with! :toofunny

Oh, wait, I should have said "I felt a confirmation in my spirit." :ursofunny

Scott Hutchinson 10-03-2008 01:31 PM

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My wife can have wrath just like God,certain times of the calendar are moody blue.

Scott Hutchinson 10-03-2008 01:32 PM

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Timmy do you have goosebumps on your goosebumps ?
Maybe nothing will rub you and you'll get frighthened.

Timmy 10-03-2008 02:00 PM

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LOL!


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