If you want to leave your spouse, dont read this!
 

A simple question - If a person leaves the church and their spouse, remarries and comes back to church - if the former spouse wants them back are they obligated to return to the original spouse?

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Talk to your Pastor.

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Is it up to the Pastor?

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If you walked into a Christian counsellor's office and asked that "simple"
question, I doubt there would be a "simple" answer without much more
dialogue!
I know what I would say, but I'm not the judge!:friend

Blessings,

Falla39

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It certainly isn't up to members of AFF. :snapout

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Is this a gray area with no scripture to say yea or nay?

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Can't get them to come back to you and you want them to read this thread as a way to persuade them?

It is not a simple question: talk to your Pastor.

It is a lot more complex than your letting on.

Ron

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Yes, it does.

google it with your Pastor; you'll be glad you did.

Ron

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no no no, what Im saying is- if a person wants to leave their spouse, can they leave the church, divorce, remarry and come back and be recieved with open arms and get to then choose which spouse they would like to keep?

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They no longer have the first spouse...they can't *keep* that one.

This question makes my head hurt though. What you're really asking is...can a person who doesn't want to be married any more decide to play an act of backsliding and leave the church in order to get a divorce, with the intention of coming back after remarrying someone they've presumibly already chosen.

In that case, the divorce/remarriage isn't even the real issue. A problem, but a symptom not the cause.

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What do you mean "which spouse they would like to keep?"

In the Old Testament, it was forbidden to go back to a previous spouse after marrying another one. E.g., wife #1 becomes permanently off limits, after you take on wife #2.

I'm of the opinion that you should be committed to the marriage you are currently IN.

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Amen, i would think the current marriage would take priority. And as for intentionally backsliding................we need the fear of God!!

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Straightforward question for you...

Have you talked to your pastor about this?

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Straightforward answer = This is not pertaining to myself or anyone in perticular. I am asking from a theological standpoint, is there any scripture or is it based on who your pastor is and his opinion?

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All4one,

Is there any scripture for leaving a current wife to return to a former one?

As for a pastor's input...it's good to get an objective, third party's point of view.

I think there are pertinent scriptures, but if this is a real situation, then you shouldn't be looking for answers online.

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:snapout

:club

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Tell it Mama of 4!!!

Ron

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Can a person intentionally feign ignorance?

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This is a heart problem, not a marriage problem

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yes there is and Miss Bratt gave it to you. :) in Deut.

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The Church of God of Prophecy would tell you that you have to divorce the present one and return to the first one. That the second marriage is not really a marriage before God. We have dealt with this more than once from people who were raised in that background. By refusing to recognize any second marriages, they alienate themselves from about half of society.

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The person who would calculate such insanity could return to the church congregation, but in his heart lies a deceitful plan that would prevent salvation unless he repented and returned to the first wife-- if she even wanted the loser after all of that.

God is not the author of confusion.

If this was to really happen, in the absence of an elaborate scheme, I doubt that God would lead the former backslidden and now repentant saint into a situation where he would be antagonizing his former faithful wife.

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If a person has left a spouse and remarried, then how could they return to their old spouse ? I'm a not pastor,I believe in backsliders being restored,but I can't see a person who has remarried,returning back to their old spouse,if they have remarried.

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If you have calculated your backsliding, divorce, remarriage-- all with the intent of coming back to God once everything has settled down, how could you not attempt to return to your first wife upon repentance?

The calculating of all that mess is what would invalidate the 2nd marriage, imo.

If it was not planned that way and it worked out that way, that would be a different scenario.

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I can see a man falling in love with another woman and leaving church because of his adultery. Then he might conceivably leave his first wife to marry the other woman. Now married to the woman he thinks he loves he could try to return to church. I don't see any church in the land kicking him out. But I can see not using him in any leadership role whatsoever for the rest of his life. Let him try to work out his salvation. And odds are the second marriage will fail too.

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yeah I would hope nothing but the best for anyone caught in such a confusingly messy situation.

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If a man or woman does not leave the church but divorces and remarries maybe they should just find another church so there wont be the judgement factor to deal with from people that know the first spouse?

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This was not the premise you started this thread on. Let's face it, divorce and remarriage are judged, and not just in the church. As for your scenario it seems someone has a problem and it has nothing to do with being judged by anyone.

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Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
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What are you trying to say? If someone sins on purpose they cant be saved?

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I have some close friends that believe like that but I cannot see that in the Bible at all..I just feel many things we have to leave to the hands of a mericful God...it might work one time in a million but as a rule that doctrine will not work in the world we live in..
Just my opinion...

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All stmatthew did was quote Hebrews 10:26.

Here are a few other translations. You tell me what it says.



Hebrews 10:26 (New King James Version)
26 For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins,


Hebrews 10:26 (New International Version)
26If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left,


Hebrews 10:26 (The Message)
26-31If we give up and turn our backs on all we've learned, all we've been given, all the truth we now know, we repudiate Christ's sacrifice and are left on our own to face the Judgment—and a mighty fierce judgment it will be! If the penalty for breaking the law of Moses is physical death, what do you think will happen if you turn on God's Son, spit on the sacrifice that made you whole, and insult this most gracious Spirit? This is no light matter. God has warned us that he'll hold us to account and us pay. He was quite explicit: "Vengeance is mine, and I won't overlook a thing" and "God will judge his people." Nobody's getting by with anything, believe me.


Hebrews 10:26 (Amplified Bible)
26For if we go on deliberately and willingly sinning after once acquiring the knowledge of the Truth, there is no longer any sacrifice left to atone for [our] sins [no further offering to which to look forward].


Hebrews 10:26 (New Living Translation)
26 Dear friends, if we deliberately continue sinning after we have received knowledge of the truth, there is no longer any sacrifice that will cover these sins.


Hebrews 10:26 (Young's Literal Translation)
26For we -- willfully sinning after the receiving the full knowledge of the truth -- no more for sins doth there remain a sacrifice,


Hebrews 10:26 (Contemporary English Version)
26No sacrifices can be made for people who decide to sin after they find out about the truth.

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You know, this really isn't a simple question. :crazy :D

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It is VERY complicated....very....

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I disagree with the assertion that "All stmatthew did was quote Hebrews 10:26.".

He introduced a specific scriptural witness within a discussion that involves the marriage vow pertaining to individuals who have received a knowledge of the truth. The context of where Matt introduced this scriptural cite clearly goes beyond just quoting Heb 10:26.

His posting resulted in a direct question coming back from the thread starter.

I hope we are all willing to be accountable to each other by stating our own understanding concerning any scripture we bring into any discussion.

St. Matthew, are you going to answer the question that was prompted by your choice to bring the witness of Heb 10:26 into this thread?

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I just hate legalism:club:snapout

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with you on that one rhoni, dt

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Consider this scenerio:

A man gets married at 18 and divorces just a couple years later. After 20 years of marriage his second wife dies from an illness. He gets in contact with his first wife and over the next couple of years romance blooms and they remarry. Now a few MORE years pass and she dies in a car accident. This man soon meets a 3rd woman (for the first time IN CHURCH) and they are soon wed (for his 4th time). A decade later SHE dies. He never remarried.

Now the BIG question is: With which wife does he buy a burial plot with?

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1Corinthians 7:10 And unto the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord Let not the wife depart from her husband

1Corinthians 7:11 But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried or be reconciled to her husband and let not the husband put away his wife.

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Stmatthew was just giving you a scripture in the bible. He's not saying anything but simply letting the bible speak for its self.