Are We Nuts??
 

I apologize ahead of time but I think that the Squirells are loose in our Political systems.

In Vancouver, our local City Council voted a new by law which came into effect today.
The By law states that you can not "idle" your car for more than 3 minutes or you will get a $50 fine.

I asked a By law officer, :what about if someone waits in their car and needs heat in the winter, or A/C in the summer?"

He said, "don't care, it's the law."

In San Fran, and one other Canadian City they are outlawing plastic bags.

When are people going to stop worshipping the Earth and thinking that it is going to be around for another Billion years?:banghead

Thanks for allowing me to vent!:grumpy

Awww...doncha know? It's NOT NICE to fool mother Nature....also known as Gaia

Ron, it may not be around another billion years (but we don't really know for sure, do we?), but it certainly could be around for another generation or two.

I'm not the best as taking care of our earth, but I do like to do whatever little part I can whenever I can.

Just what if this old world is around for another say, fifteen or twenty years, what kind of world do you want leave your kids and your potential future grandchildren. I find comments like this as being irresponsible. The Word says we are to be overseers and good stewards of this place, this does not give us permission to wreck havoc on God’s creation.

RonB, it takes more fuel to run a car for 1 min than to restart it. So we start driving in circles now?

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this is a society that saves the trees and kills children...what do you expect?

I'm not being snotty here, and I have no objection to your post....but as long as we are taking care of the things God intrusted to us, we are doing our part. Not willfully destroying any one thing....but some of this save the earth nonsense is just that, nonsense. God made everything with a purpose....you know? as I believe it, our main priority as Christians is to bear fruit....aka, lead others to salvation before Jesus comes back...

Let him worry about the rest IMO

Theresa, we are in complete agreement here. Like I said, I'm not the best at taking care of our earth. But I do try to be responsible when it comes to what I can do with what I have. Nothing big. Just a little recycling. That kind of stuff. I agre some of the save the earth stuff really is just nonsense. But on the other hand, if there are little things we can do, why not do them?

Like I said, nothing big. for instance, I make my kids and all the neighbor kids go out and pick up the empty water bottles and pop cans after they play basketball and put them in the recycle bin. Not a hard thing to do.

Actually tho, if you think about it, our ancestors were probably better at this than any of us are. Consider how many times they used a bucket of water for how many different things before they finally threw it out. And then it was thrown on the plants in the garden or the flowers. NOT that I want to go back to that era! NO thank you!!

I agree in being good stewards, but not idling your car for more than three minutes???

If ou have to wait for someone in the winter or in the summer, is it such a sin to have the heat going and or, A/C?

Sorry, this is an extreme IMHO.

I agree!:tiphat

I think all of it has less to do with concern with the environment and more to do with controlling the people.

From the Church to the Congress the law is weak to bring us to rightness.

Longer lists of laws only make longer lists of transgressors.

I do make an effort in my life to reduce my footprint on this earth. Whether global warming is true or not (which I doubt) we still cannot keep living lives that require more and more and more and more energy etc.

But... that being said... laws are NOT the answer. I amazed at the "tree hugger" that I am becoming but it is education that has brought me here. It makes me want to do things that have less of an impact on our environment.

Laws do not.

And...as I said... their goal doesn't have anything to do with the earth... it is just all part of our continual downward trend into a police state.

I have been sitting here trying to remember where I have heard of this law before. When we were in Germany we were not allowed to leave the car running for longer than three minutes.

I think it is humurous that we think that we are capable of destroying the earth. When God is ready the earth will be destroyed and until then no matter what we do it will remain. I am definately for recycling, but to think we can destroy what God has made is humanistic thinking.

Why are plastic bags being outlawed in some places?

Not as Biodegradeable as Paper Bags.

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In California truckers can't leave their trucks running.

I believe this... we are absolutely and totally incapable of destroying the earth.

But we are capable of making it increasingly unfriendly to us for our own purposes.

If global warming is true... no destruction of the earth... but destruction of much of our land. There is evidence that MUCH land closer to our coasts was once part of the oceans, gulfs etc so this is nothing new... and if the ice caps melted and flooded much of the US what would the earth care?

If we kill ourselves off then the earth will recover.

The earth has suffered many natural events and time always makes life out of what brought death.

We can't destroy the earth.... so true.

But we can poison our own environment.

People live in cities that have visible clouds of exhaust fumes over them...

Companies dump poisons in landfills not thinking that these things leach into our water supply.

People build big cities in the dessert thinking they can suck these vast amounts of water out of aquifers forever and create an oasis against nature.

The huge cities we have today are using more resources than one area can give.

We can't kill the earth.

But we can sure mess ourselves up.

I agree D4T, I just think we go overboard.
A car that is just idling for the sake of idling yes turn it off.

A car that is waiting for someone to pick up on a niinety degree day, or a day that is freezing, having the car idle for ten fifteen minutes to run A/C or heating isn't unreasonable IMHO.

Ron, didn't mean to bite your head off, hormones gone wild, sorry ...;)

No offense taken. I am just flabbergasted at how people go to the extreme over the enviroment.

In Vancouver, our local City Council voted a new by law which came into effect today.
The By law states that you can not "idle" your car for more than 3 minutes or you will get a $50 fine.

I asked a By law officer, :what about if someone waits in their car and needs heat in the winter, or A/C in the summer?"

He said, "don't care, it's the law."




So he's going to stand there timing you? Shut off your car at 2min 59 sec, wait a couple secs and turn it back on.



ARPH