***Its a CRIME to say HUSSEIN!****
 

Aparantly it is a federal crime to mention Barak Obama's middle name.

http://www.nbc-2.com/articles/readar...leid=22058&z=3


People are being investagated (persecuted) for saying Barak's middle name.


is this really what we have already come to?

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What's John McCain's middle name?
What's Sarah Palin's middle name?
What's Joe Biden's middle name?

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Right.

People really shouldn't have to be ashamed of their midddle name, should they?

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What is funny is there is a movie comeing out designed to paint George W. Bush as a moron. Its called W (Dubya).

Dubya is used by the left to pove their point that dubya is a bumpkin.

but you cant say Hussain or the special procecutor will come get you.

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And they're saying that John McCain was being racist when he called Obama "That one" the other night in the debate.

Offensive, well yeah -- but nothing racist about it.

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Actually according to the article YOU posted he is being investigated under the Hatch Act.

For using his office to influence a political campaign.

I don't see a logical co-relation between that and the heading of your thread

(BTW its spelled Hussein)

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I really don't care how its spelled.

So you read the article and didn't get that the sheriff is being investigated for illegally influencing a political campaign because he used the word "Hussain"

really?

That's what your saying?

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Sheriff stands by controversial comments

Originally posted on: Monday, October 06, 2008 by NBC2 News
Last updated on: 10/6/2008 11:20:51 PM

LEE COUNTY: Lee County Sheriff Mike Scott is standing by some controversial comments he made at Governor Sarah Palin's rally on Monday - comments already gaining national attention.

While speaking on stage, Scott referred to the Democratic presidential candidate by his full name, Barack Hussein Obama.

"Ladies and gentleman, there are three types of people in our country today. There are people that make things happen, there are people that watch things, and there are people who wonder what happened. On November 4, let's leave Barack Hussein Obama wondering what happened," said Sheriff Scott to the crowd at Germain Arena Monday afternoon.

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Sheriff's comment scorches phone lines

Originally posted on: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 by NBC2 News
Last updated on: 10/7/2008 7:08:37 PM

FORT MYERS: The phone lines lit up at the Lee County Sheriff's Office this morning after Sheriff Mike Scott's comments at the Sarah Palin rally Monday.

In urging voters to choose John McCain in the November election, Scott used Barack Obama's middle name - "Hussein."

Both the Obama and McCain campaign's immediately criticized the statement. McCain's camp said it distracted from their message, while Obama's office said Scott was trying to stoke the fires of a whisper campaign claiming Obama is a Muslim, which is not true.

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I believe when you read the two other articles it becomes clearer.

It wasn't that he announced McCain to speak that he's being investigated, but that he used his middle name to insinuate he was Muslim.

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I'll correct it.

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Barak is a biblical name. Don't know about Hussein. Good thing nobody's running named Adolph. :D

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I didn't even find it offensive, it was awkward to hear it. The sentence seemed... erratic.

Maybe they're trying to spin this into a remake of Perot's "you people" comment.

This clearly was not any where near as offensive.

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That Sheriff is being investigated because he essentially used his position as a Law Enforcement Officer in a political way-- as if to imply the police are voting for mccain/palin, you should too.

His use of Sen. Obama's middle name was not harmless, but it was only the icing on the cake for the line he crossed.

I hope he is prosecuted-- he knew better, especially as the Sheriff!

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Hatch Act

Permitted Activities
Covered state and local employees may-

run for public office in nonpartisan elections
campaign for and hold office in political clubs and organizations
actively campaign for candidates for public office in partisan and nonpartisan elections
contribute money to political organizations and attend political fundraising functions



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Prohibited Activities

Covered state and local employees may not-

be candidates for public office in a partisan election
use official authority or influence to interfere with or affect the results of an election or nomination
directly or indirectly coerce contributions from subordinates in support of a political party or candidate


Looks like there's not a problem at all with him introducing McCain. The complaints are that he said "On November 4, let's leave Barack Hussein Obama wondering what happened"

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Well I am not sure the charges are valid, the investigation will expose that.

For the record I am not an Obama supporter. But I don't have much tolerance for emotionally charged irrational arguments by either side.

The Sheriff rightly or wrongly took PUBLIC flack for his use of Hussein.

The federal investigation is whether he improperly used his influence.

The title of the thread appears to be an example of irrational emotionally charged disconnect.

Seems to be theme here over many of threads I have scanned for the last few months.

Not sure when or why things changed, but I guess that would be the discussion for another and different (and no doubt emotionally charged name calling) thread.

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Actually the title of this thread reflects the title of the article - "Feds investigating sheriff after 'Hussein' remark"

Apparently, using Hussein DOES mean something. There was a clip of one of the leaders from the Mideast saying that Barak HUSSEIN Obama will lead America and he was overly emphasizing Hussein and the crowd cheered!

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There was no mention in the article of using Hussein being a crime.

Actually the title of the BLOG was:

Feds investigating sheriff after 'Hussein' remark

and the excerpt was:

LEE COUNTY: Lee County Sheriff Mike Scott may have more to worry about than just the court of public opinion. Federal investigators are now looking into whether Scott broke the law by campaigning for John McCain.

Officials with the U.S. Office of Special Counsel say they have received so many phone calls from the public that they launched an investigation into Sheriff Scott on Tuesday.

The question is - did he use his position as sheriff to influence an election? If so, he could be in violation of a federal election law called the Hatch Act.

The Lee County Sheriff's Office receives more than $1 million in federal grant money from everything from human trafficking to bullet proof vests.

But if Sheriff Scott is found in violation of the Hatch Act, the feds can pull two years salary worth of federal funding - the equivalent to $300,000 for the Lee County Sheriff's Office.

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Please...you are kidding me right? It is offensive to use a middle name? If Obama is so sure of himself and his heritage, as he states he is, then what is the problem? If we are not to use his middle name in one situation then it will not be appropriate to use it in any situation. Maybe he needs to look into having a name change done if it is so offensive or attacking to use his middle name. Really is this that big of a deal??? I think not...JMO.:crazy:crazy:crazy:crazy:crazy:crazy:cra zy:crazy:crazy

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It will be interesting to see the outcome. Looks like by the Hatch Act he can campaign for McCain.

Hatch Act
Permitted Activities
Covered state and local employees may-

run for public office in nonpartisan elections
campaign for and hold office in political clubs and organizations
actively campaign for candidates for public office in partisan and nonpartisan elections
contribute money to political organizations and attend political fundraising functions

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? how so? i heard his comments, there was nothing in what he said that suggested the police were going to somehow use their position to harm those that voted for Obama.

All he did was introduce Palin.


Im not following your logic here....


Did you feel strongly about the group of law inforcement officials in Missouri who have said they would procecute anyone running an ad on TV that wasnt "truthful"?

by the way that group of law enforcment officials goes by the name Obama supporters for Truth or some such.

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It is evident why, most American lack an understanding behind the meaning of Arabic names. So, when the name "Hussein" is used the immediate association is that of negativity. How many of us ever take the time to understand Islamic tradition? I can asure you not many. If we had, we would learn that "Hussein's" (hu-sein) pronounced, hoo-SAYN. Arabic origins translates in english to "good, small handsome one". Not that scary when knowledge is injected in place of bigotry.

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you guys that think it's about the name are TWISTED. the issue is the sherif being in UNIFORM and making a political speech. The issue is the uniform not the use of the middle name.

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According to the Hatch Act he's allowed to do that.

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I dont think anybody cares what the word means.

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It's not his race or mixture thereof. He didn't choose his parents.
It's not his name. He did not name himself.

It's his political philosophy that should keep folks from voting for him. Those are the choices he has made, that is path he chooses to take. It's a broad road to a socialistic state, where government takes care of all ills, and government knows best. Take a look at how government institutions function and tell me you honestly believe they are better then the free market.


God save this Republic and bring confusion to all her enemies both foreign and domestic.

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FORT MYERS: The phone lines lit up at the Lee County Sheriff's Office this morning after Sheriff Mike Scott's comments at the Sarah Palin rally Monday.

In urging voters to choose John McCain in the November election, Scott used Barack Obama's middle name - "Hussein."

Both the Obama and McCain campaign's immediately criticized the statement. McCain's camp said it distracted from their message, while Obama's office said Scott was trying to stoke the fires of a whisper campaign claiming Obama is a Muslim, which is not true.

Read it again.

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he can as a civilian not in uniform

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Do you read anything before you post?

I posted the do's and don'ts of the Hatch Act and HE CAN.

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For Dedicated Mind

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Don't confuse him with the facts.

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I really dont think this is a bout Obama's middle name at all. it is about politica speech being procecuted.

i havent seen any evidence that any law was broken.

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I think some WANT to make it about his name - the sames ones that were trying to make "that one" about race.

I'm more concerned about the millions of fraudulent voters!

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I read your post the first time. Under Prohibitted is "official use". Wearing the uniform is "official use". I know, I was in the military and we had rules of conduct while in uniform.

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Haven't you heard him say "change is coming"?

Scary!

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I thought I read somewhere where his name has been changed???

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What's Hillary Clinton's middle name? Oh, that's right.....she is often called by her full name! (Hillary Rodham Clinton)

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He was called Barry most of his life - is that what you are thinking about?

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I read that he went by "Barry" until he was college age. He then started having everyone refer to him as Barack, after rooming with two Arab Muslim guys.

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Doesn't that make you want to say huh? I can't believe anyone doesn't believe he is a muslim.