Do We Sin Every Day?
 

I have heard the statement, "we sin every day". While I certainly believe that at our best, we fall short of the glory of God, I find the above statement a bit disturbing. If having the Holy Ghost is incapable of helping us to overcome temptation to sin in a twenty four hour period, or for a couple of days, or maybe even a week, what purpose is there of having the Holy Ghost?

I for one don't believe in the "sin every day" doctrine. I believe it is possible for a child of God to overcome sin in a twenty four hour period. I would like to think that I have the hope that the longer I serve Jesus, the more I mature and the more I can overcome the sin and weight that besets me.

I am concerned that this type of teaching leaves the door open for people to excuse sin in their lives, maintaining the attitude that there is really nothing we can do about it, we just have to "die daily" in repentance and ask the Lord to forgive us and move on and try to do better next time. I believe "dying daily" means more than just repenting every day for our every day sinful lifestyle. I believe dying to ourselves in a deeper since is denying the flesh its sinful urges and ungodly tendencies BEFORE one crosses the line of sinful action. When one is truly dead to self, certainly conviction would settle in and repentance would occur for disobedience, but ultimately deadness to self should result in spiritual victories over sin and temptation.

Have you heard this doctrine preached and do you subscribe to it or reject it?

I think there must be a balance. Remember sin is not just a deed but can be an absence of a deed, an attitude, a non-Christian view of an issue, many things. It's not thinking Christ's thoughts after Him. If we think that we can be sinless most of the time it's a low view of God and His righteous requirements and a high view of ourselves. I do believe in sanctification and it will be complete on the moment that I die. Just because I still sin does not exonerate me from the 'sinfulness' of it but I must remember that He's a better Saviour than I am a sinner.

While in practice I think it is admirable to set that as a benchmark. We have to least realize the nature of sin.

God has declared us sinners by:

Divine edict-This has been remedied by the death of Jesus in our place
Birth-Remedied by taking us out of Adam's Family and adopting us into the family of Christ.
Nature-This is the real problem, the difficult is being led by the Holy Spirit perfectly, the only man that ever did that was Jesus Christ.

There are also different types of sin:

Omission-where I fail to even realize that I should do something, should I have loved that bum, shouldn't have thrown that gum wrapper down, paid more money in the offering etc.

Commission-willingly disobey God

The remedy for this level of sin is still the same, as I walk in the light (trust in Jesus) his blood cleanses me from all sin. Praise God!

Sin? I would think few of us have reached perfection level...I sure have not...our thoughts, words, deeds....

If you are perfect please pray for me...I am sure I am quite "fleshly" at times...

yes, His precious blood may we ever live under the fountain...

Jesus left no excuse for sin.

Be ye perfect even as your Father in Heaven is perfect. Matt. 5:48

Is there a struggle? Yes.

Are we expected to be OVERCOMERS? How far should we take the battle against sin?

43: And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
44: Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
45: And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
46: Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
47: And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire:
48: Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched. Mark 9:43-48

An "offence" is serious to Jesus Christ. If one ACTUALLY DOES sin every day its a good sign they do not know HIM.

3: And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
4: He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 1 John 2:3-4

Some people I think just say they sin every day because many consider one arrogant unless he makes such a confession.

Blessed is he that overcometh...

Is this a confession thread?

(if so I need to go call a few folks so they can come take advantage of it)

11: He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death. Rev. 2:11

Those who do NOT OVERCOME will be hurt of the second death....the Lake of Fire.

I don't believe in just going out on purpose and sinning but we are not Jesus in the flesh so we all battle and must do as Paul did. He said he crucified the flesh everyday...so I am sure he too battled.
I once knew people that got into that never die message because of saying they were perfect.
It is His grace that helps us on our journey and his grace covers all we need.

IF we sin...WE have an advocate,...........

Oh! how thankful I am for an Advocate...

IF we sin. That is the key. This doctrine that says we cant stop sinning will be resposible for the destruction of multitudes. If and when we sin he do have an advocate. Yet BALANCE THAT with cutting your hand off instead of sinning.

Can we cease from sin?

1: What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
2: God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein? Rom. 6:1-2

To sin every day or even on a continuing basis is to CONTINUE in sin. Paul says "How shall we that are DEAD to sin live in it"

So Paul taught we could cease from sin.

Peter had strong words for those who COULD NOT cease from sin.

12: But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;
13: And shall receive the reward of unrighteousness, as they that count it pleasure to riot in the day time. Spots they are and blemishes, sporting themselves with their own deceivings while they feast with you;
14: Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children: 2 Peter 2:12-14

Notice verse 14. These people cannot cease from sin. If sinning every day is NOT not being able to cease from sin pray tell what is?

Hi all,

This has always been one of my favourite topics. We do not have to sin every day. That is why Romans 6 teaches we are dead to sin since we were buried into Christ's death by baptism. But unless we really understand this and truly get it into our spirits, which is the entire problem with saints dead to sin who still sin, we will not enjoy it.

Folks, we're dead to sin! Why should we live any longer in it?

Paul did not say he was crucified every day. He said he died daily in the sense that his life was physically threatened each day due to the persecution he faced. It was a physical threat, not spiritual.

If you read carefully, Paul said death to sin occurs ONCE when we are saved, and dying to SELF is ongoing. Self denial is every day. Not dying to sin.

My thoughts, anyway.

Good thoughts.

MF Blume it is nice to see you here, I have enjoyed reading your articles on the web.

Thanks, brother,

This issue reminds me of the type of our victory in Israel's conquest for Canaan. God gave Canaan to Israel, with all its enemy tribes and obstacles. He said it was their's. But when Israel came to the borders, they doubted and were not convinced they could take the land. THey doubted God's word.

I see this as believers today doubting they are dead to sin. They look at the sins and temptations like Israel looked at the tribes and well walled cities, and fear they cannot overcome them. Too much to ask! However, we CAN! Romans 6:12-14 says sin shall not have dominion over us, and we should not let sin reign in our mortal flesh.

But the whole experience requires genuine and real faith in it. The problem I see is that people EXPECT to sin. And when we expect to do this, we will find a way to do it. We are so SIN-CONSCIOUS, and therefore we doubt we can live above sin. Romans is trying to get us SON-conscious, so that we EXPECT to have victory. Once we get the idea of Romans 6 into our spirits and really BELIEVE IT, we will expect to overcome sin!

I am actually preparing to write a book on this very issue.

Blume is here!!:happydance

Hey bro., thanks for the excitement! lol

I preached lately about the STANDING we have in Christ versus our WALK. Standing is the position we have, without necessarily requiring any behavioural change. We are all seated with Christ above sin and all enemies when we're saved. But not until we REALIZE this will we venture forth to expect to see differences in our dealings with sin. So it takes a lot of teaching -- especially from Romans 6 -- to see where we are so we can learn what we can expect, and AGREE WITH IT to WALK IN IT.

The scripture came to my mind, "How can two WALK together, except they be agreed." We STAND "with Christ" in the position of death to sin and power over all enemies. But OUR WALKS refer to our ACTIVITY. We will not see the activity WITH CHRIST until we AGREE WITH HIS WORD about our standing. It is possible to read these scriptures about our deaths to sin, and not actually AGREE with them. We KNOW we should agree with them, but that is only a conscious mental thing. When we really "get it", though, we have revelation, and WE AGREE. So not only are we dead with Christ and buried with Christ and risen and seated with Christ in heavenly places (POSITION), but we can WALK WITH HIM in power. But how can two WALK TOGETHER except they be AGREED?

As far as God is concerned, we are dead to sin and have power over it. WE MUST AGREE WITH HIM, so we CAN "WALK with" him and LIVE that victory!

Amen and Amen!! I'm glad you decided to join us.


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If we sin everyday, does that make us an everyday sinner?

Watchman Nee, wrote a great book titled Sit, Walk, Stand

Before we learn to walk in faith, we must learn about our authority as a believer, then we can walk in faith, then when we face conflict, warfare, we can stand!

He also wrote a classic: THE NORMAL CHRISTIAN LIFE! It's all about power over sin, and how it's intended by God to be NORMAL experience, when today's church has been so removed from that confidence.

Nah, just spiritual babies. lol ;)

The sin issue is never annhilated in the life of a believer. Like Paul said we struggle with the things we ought to do and ought not to do, but I do believe it's possible to live above sin. I don't believe that we have to sin every day. I believe that we can live for the most part an overcoming victorious life.

Paul taught that if we walk in the Spirit we can overcome the flesh, that we will not fulfill the lust of the flesh. So the answer is in walking in the Spirit.

The blood of Christ cleanseth us from sin. It's an ongoing process. If we do sin i.e. transgress the laws and commands of God .... we can ask forgiveness and He is faithful, just and willing to forgive us. Thank God for His mercy, grace and love and for the blood that was shed that we can avail ourselves of.

Amen. It's not annihilated but it is answered.

Amen. Paul ONCE struggled but related past history to us when he wrote that in Romans 7, in order to show us how he learned he did not have to walk in defeat.

Exactly.

So long as we walk after the Spirit we will live above sin.

Amen. :)

Since sin, at least to some extent, means to miss the mark, would we not be able to say that we sin just by not meeting God's righteous standard?

Amen! LOL!

I'd forgotten about that post I made and didn't realize anyone had replied to it till now.

I have to say MF Blume that I appreciate your understanding in regard to this particular issue.

It depends on the day in question?????:aaa

:iagree 2 Peter 1:3-11!

:happydance .

Everyday, sinners are born...

Awesome scripture, sir, and timely as well!



2 Peter 1:3-11:

According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:

Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.

And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge;

And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness;

And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity.

For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.

But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins.

Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall:

For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

I thought about sinning once does that count???????????????:aaa


Before you get out the axe it was a joke.:tiphat

As a man thinketh in his heart, so is he...


The problem is, is I don't think...therefore, am I here???

Thanks sister!