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iceniez 10-29-2008 07:30 AM

The Witches " bible"
 
I am at work and got in a discussion about what "religion" Sarah Palin, is and Someone said that her Pastor was really railing against witchcraft . Then another person said he has pentegrams all around his house and is going to buy His wife the witches bible [ the funny one ? ]. Does anyone Have any clue what the difference in that would be. I do know that everyone up here has read the Harry Potter series is it related to that series ?

Withdrawn 10-29-2008 07:54 AM

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Never heard of it. Sounds like an abomination, even if it is "the funny one." Nothing I need to know anything about.

iceniez 10-29-2008 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by jaamez (Post 618553)
Never heard of it. Sounds like an abomination, even if it is "the funny one." Nothing I need to know anything about.

That's true . However I wanted to know what I'm up against.

Withdrawn 10-29-2008 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by iceniez (Post 618555)
That's true . However I wanted to know what I'm up against.

Not knowing the details of the situation, I can only assume. But it sounds like you're up against our enemy. But do not fear! He is defeated already. You just have to remind him of it.

iceniez 10-29-2008 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by jaamez (Post 618562)
Not knowing the details of the situation, I can only assume. But it sounds like you're up against our enemy. But do not fear! He is defeated already. You just have to remind him of it.

AMEN

jimmyrrs 10-29-2008 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by iceniez (Post 618546)
I am at work and got in a discussion about what "religion" Sarah Palin, is and Someone said that her Pastor was really railing against witchcraft . Then another person said he has pentegrams all around his house and is going to buy His wife the witches bible [ the funny one ? ]. Does anyone Have any clue what the difference in that would be. I do know that everyone up here has read the Harry Potter series is it related to that series ?

I beleive I read she was Assembly of God. This may be wrong.
I will share what very little I know about the subject. Yes there are several witches' bibles on the market. Many different authors. Some deal in spells and such, others more in depth with the deep, deep witchcraft and beliefs.
Do I study witchcraft? No. But I see nothing wrong with knowledge if used correctly and learning about others. I would not make it a habit to read it all the time.
There are some books that make lite of watchcraft and its power. This may be the so called "funny one".
It is another tool that opens the door for the devil.

Mrs. LPW 10-29-2008 12:28 PM

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You might try googling, and see what comes up.

iceniez 10-29-2008 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrs. LPW (Post 618705)
You might try googling, and see what comes up.

I did and did not find a funny one . Just found real witch books. I have come to the conclusion some people just don't realize what they are messing with even if they feel it is only entertainment. I know he knew I was not pleased by the look on my face. I can't help it just my very nature is opposed to it.

iceniez 10-29-2008 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmyrrs (Post 618683)
I beleive I read she was Assembly of God. This may be wrong.
I will share what very little I know about the subject. Yes there are several witches' bibles on the market. Many different authors. Some deal in spells and such, others more in depth with the deep, deep witchcraft and beliefs.
Do I study witchcraft? No. But I see nothing wrong with knowledge if used correctly and learning about others. I would not make it a habit to read it all the time.
There are some books that make lite of watchcraft and its power. This may be the so called "funny one".
It is another tool that opens the door for the devil.

Amen and thanks.

nahkoe 10-29-2008 03:04 PM

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I have no idea what he's talking about...

I did google, the book that comes up wouldn't be considered funny, IMO. I did try finding a spoof and didn't find anything.

I will say that no, nothing having to do with witchcraft has to do with the Harry Potter series. Harry Potter is purely fictional. While it does discuss spell casting, the discussion is *purely* fictional.

As for what you're up against, I'd have to say nothing. I can't quite decide if you're saying the pastor has the pentegrams and such? Or someone else does? Either way, it's not you playing with fire, it's whoever it is you're discussing.

It does depend on what the person you're talking to is practicing/studying. If they're studying wicca, or even most witchcraft, they will not try to convert you and they would *never* cast for you or concerning you, and ABSOLUTELY NEVER to cause you harm. However, some who study/practice witchcraft do delve into darker magick... Yes, even within witchcraft there's division and disunity. lol

I'll also tell you that *you* will never convert a witch. Most witches I know are more informed about the history of the church, Christianity and the Bible (although maybe/maybe not on that last point) than most Christians I know. Only God can deal with a witch. Period. Don't meddle and try, you'll cause far more harm to their souls than if you just leave well enough alone. Just trust that God *can* and *will* deal with them. Be their friend...if you can avoid preaching most aren't opposed to the idea (and those who remained friends, without being preachy or trying to convert me, in spite of my path) played a very, very large part in God getting ahold of me.

ronharvey 10-29-2008 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by nahkoe (Post 618840)
I have no idea what he's talking about...

I did google, the book that comes up wouldn't be considered funny, IMO. I did try finding a spoof and didn't find anything.

I will say that no, nothing having to do with witchcraft has to do with the Harry Potter series. Harry Potter is purely fictional. While it does discuss spell casting, the discussion is *purely* fictional.

As for what you're up against, I'd have to say nothing. I can't quite decide if you're saying the pastor has the pentegrams and such? Or someone else does? Either way, it's not you playing with fire, it's whoever it is you're discussing.

It does depend on what the person you're talking to is practicing/studying. If they're studying wicca, or even most witchcraft, they will not try to convert you and they would *never* cast for you or concerning you, and ABSOLUTELY NEVER to cause you harm. However, some who study/practice witchcraft do delve into darker magick... Yes, even within witchcraft there's division and disunity. lol

I'll also tell you that *you* will never convert a witch. Most witches I know are more informed about the history of the church, Christianity and the Bible (although maybe/maybe not on that last point) than most Christians I know. Only God can deal with a witch. Period. Don't meddle and try, you'll cause far more harm to their souls than if you just leave well enough alone. Just trust that God *can* and *will* deal with them. Be their friend...if you can avoid preaching most aren't opposed to the idea (and those who remained friends, without being preachy or trying to convert me, in spite of my path) played a very, very large part in God getting ahold of me.

Amen Sis,

Same here.

Ron

nahkoe 10-29-2008 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ronharvey (Post 619031)
Amen Sis,

Same here.

Ron

At least someone agrees with me about something. :tease

I would absolutely love to hear your story sometime. How long has it been since you left witchcraft/paganism? And how/why?

ronharvey 10-29-2008 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by nahkoe (Post 619035)
At least someone agrees with me about something. :tease

I would absolutely love to hear your story sometime. How long has it been since you left witchcraft/paganism? And how/why?

My mother's side of the family was involved from before I was born.
I left it at the age of 19 (I am 51 now) when I had completely lost control.

The conjures followed me even to work, knocked things off shelves and bothered customers (I was the 11pm - 7am shift).

My father finally believed me after he had his own encounter with a watcher that completely turned my room upside down.

He said that night (My night off) "I don't know what your going to do, but I'm going to bed."

That night, I came back to God.

Ron

nahkoe 10-29-2008 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ronharvey (Post 619069)
My mother's side of the family was involved from before I was born.
I left it at the age of 19 (I am 51 now) when I had completely lost control.

The conjures followed me even to work, knocked things off shelves and bothered customers (I was the 11pm - 7am shift).

My father finally believed me after he had his own encounter with a watcher that completely turned my room upside down.

He said that night (My night off) "I don't know what your going to do, but I'm going to bed."

That night, I came back to God.

Ron

Well wasn't that nice of him!

I seriously wonder if there hasn't been someone in my family who has practiced and it's just been hush hush. I had encounters with things that started at a *very* young age. But, I had encounters with God starting not much after that too. I didn't start leaving Christianity until I was 20ish or so. And now I'm still trying to figure out how I got back here. :toofunny

Interestingly, the night I first came to God, when I was 12, was due to one wild encounter. Kind of like what you were describing with the things falling off of shelves...except more.

ronharvey 10-29-2008 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by nahkoe (Post 619072)
Well wasn't that nice of him!

I seriously wonder if there hasn't been someone in my family who has practiced and it's just been hush hush. I had encounters with things that started at a *very* young age. But, I had encounters with God starting not much after that too. I didn't start leaving Christianity until I was 20ish or so. And now I'm still trying to figure out how I got back here. :toofunny

Interestingly, the night I first came to God, when I was 12, was due to one wild encounter. Kind of like what you were describing with the things falling off of shelves...except more.

I was also 12 the first time I came to God.
I was in a Baptist youth camp (I was Mormon).
I went up front thinking a certain girl would like me, the closer I got to the alter the more my emotions began overwhelming me.

The Moron at the alter told me I didn't need to cry, just accept Jesus.
I asked him to get away from me.

I cried for a long, long time and felt so clean inside. When I discovered that my family who wanted me to go to church now wanted no part of me I turned away from God, till I was 19 and he took me back.

Ron

RandyWayne 10-29-2008 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by nahkoe (Post 619072)
Well wasn't that nice of him!

I seriously wonder if there hasn't been someone in my family who has practiced and it's just been hush hush. I had encounters with things that started at a *very* young age. But, I had encounters with God starting not much after that too. I didn't start leaving Christianity until I was 20ish or so. And now I'm still trying to figure out how I got back here. :toofunny

Interestingly, the night I first came to God, when I was 12, was due to one wild encounter. Kind of like what you were describing with the things falling off of shelves...except more.

Have you ever tried to video tape (or photograph) anything?

iceniez 10-29-2008 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by nahkoe (Post 618840)
I have no idea what he's talking about...

I did google, the book that comes up wouldn't be considered funny, IMO. I did try finding a spoof and didn't find anything.

I will say that no, nothing having to do with witchcraft has to do with the Harry Potter series. Harry Potter is purely fictional. While it does discuss spell casting, the discussion is *purely* fictional.

As for what you're up against, I'd have to say nothing. I can't quite decide if you're saying the pastor has the pentegrams and such? Or someone else does? Either way, it's not you playing with fire, it's whoever it is you're discussing.

It does depend on what the person you're talking to is practicing/studying. If they're studying wicca, or even most witchcraft, they will not try to convert you and they would *never* cast for you or concerning you, and ABSOLUTELY NEVER to cause you harm. However, some who study/practice witchcraft do delve into darker magick... Yes, even within witchcraft there's division and disunity. lol

I'll also tell you that *you* will never convert a witch. Most witches I know are more informed about the history of the church, Christianity and the Bible (although maybe/maybe not on that last point) than most Christians I know. Only God can deal with a witch. Period. Don't meddle and try, you'll cause far more harm to their souls than if you just leave well enough alone. Just trust that God *can* and *will* deal with them. Be their friend...if you can avoid preaching most aren't opposed to the idea (and those who remained friends, without being preachy or trying to convert me, in spite of my path) played a very, very large part in God getting ahold of me.

Thanks alot,and no the one who has the pentegrams in his house is not a pastor.

nahkoe 10-30-2008 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 619096)
Have you ever tried to video tape (or photograph) anything?

I was a kid. :tease

The thought to take pictures of what was happening never really crossed my mind as I was laying there frozen with fear.

I haven't had experiences as an adult that would photograph, and really the fear thing...I don't know if I'd be in my right mind enough to think of it if I did.

mfblume 10-30-2008 09:22 AM

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Maybe the NECRONOMICON??


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