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Dedicated Mind 10-31-2008 01:22 PM

Bob Larson, "The Real Exorcist"
 
Has anyone heard of the new reality show, "The Real Exorcist". It aired last night on the Sci Fi channel and shows real life exorcisms. There are plenty of you tube videos about Bob Larson, I don't know how to download them. Is this guy for real? Did anyone see the show and would like to comment. I didn't hear about this guy until today, but there are more exorcisms to come on his reality show. here's an article:



http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll...WS10/810250321

mfblume 10-31-2008 01:29 PM

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I did see that. The guy is legit in my books. He does not have all the truth, of course, but he is really dealing with the real deal from what I saw. It surprised me!

Dedicated Mind 10-31-2008 01:54 PM

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Here's a video


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oG8sO45nME

mfblume 10-31-2008 01:59 PM

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I am not sure what to think about him making it a reality show.

Truthseeker 10-31-2008 02:02 PM

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Sure we be nice if we seen for deliverence among us.

mfblume 10-31-2008 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Truthseeker (Post 620231)
Sure we be nice if we seen for deliverence among us.

What? Not following your sentence, bro. :)

Truthseeker 10-31-2008 02:25 PM

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I meant would be nice to see more deliverence among us. I was typing too fast, I guess.

Baron1710 10-31-2008 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 620204)
Has anyone heard of the new reality show, "The Real Exorcist". It aired last night on the Sci Fi channel and shows real life exorcisms. There are plenty of you tube videos about Bob Larson, I don't know how to download them. Is this guy for real? Did anyone see the show and would like to comment. I didn't hear about this guy until today, but there are more exorcisms to come on his reality show. here's an article:



http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll...WS10/810250321

I am not so sure about Bob Larson he used to do this on the radio in the early 90's. He is a bit of a sensationalist, I still remember him asking for money to support his show...111.56 for one hour or 223.12 to support both hours.

OneAccord 10-31-2008 03:08 PM

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Well... you did ask us to comment.

I watched some of it.... thought it was about as real as "Paranormal State" and such like. Would have been funny, if it weren't so sad.

TRFrance 10-31-2008 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Baron1710 (Post 620265)
I am not so sure about Bob Larson he used to do this on the radio in the early 90's. He is a bit of a sensationalist, I still remember him asking for money to support his show...111.56 for one hour or 223.12 to support both hours.

Is it wrong for someone to ask listeners to financially support a radio show?

nahkoe 10-31-2008 03:26 PM

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My opinion? This story is a pretty nifty way to avoid personal responsibility for the couple involved.

I really think the whole thing is likely psychological manipulation.

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Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 620226)


ILG 10-31-2008 03:34 PM

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I watched the video and frankly, the whole thing just ticks me off. What that guy, Eric, needs is good old fashioned repentance. Forget all the sensationalism. If you ask me, Bob Larson has just got a good way to make money.

ILG 10-31-2008 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by nahkoe (Post 620286)
My opinion? This story is a pretty nifty way to avoid personal responsibility for the couple involved.

I really think the whole thing is likely psychological manipulation.

Thank you! That's what I see, but didn't know quite how to describe it...avoidance of personal responsibility!! That is exactly what is happening! Repentance is much less sensational and much more effective!

Ron 10-31-2008 03:38 PM

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Bob Larson has been around for a long time, IMO he comes across as a sensationalist with very little humility.

I also have very little respect for him when he calls people "stupid" & tells them to "shut up"
just because they have a differing viewpoint.

I don't give him the time of day.

mfblume 10-31-2008 03:43 PM

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A guy doesn't have to be on the money to actually cast out devils, you know.

Matthew 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

OneAccord 10-31-2008 03:49 PM

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I think Sis Nahkoe takes the prize on this one. "The devil made me do it" is a sure way of shirking responsibility for ones own actions.

My opinion? Bob Larson is making a play to gain Todd Bentley's disallusioned following. The two are "birds of a feather".

TRFrance 10-31-2008 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by mfblume (Post 620303)
A guy doesn't have to be on the money to actually cast out devils, you know.

We know. That's the sad part.

Ev. Duane Williams 10-31-2008 05:31 PM

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Mark 9:38 And John answered him, saying, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name, and he followeth not us: and we forbad him, because he followeth not us.

39But Jesus said, Forbid him not: for there is no man which shall do a miracle in my name, that can lightly speak evil of me.




Luke 9:49 And John answered and said, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name; and we forbad him, because he followeth not with us.

50And Jesus said unto him, Forbid him not: for he that is not against us is for us.

I believe Larson is legit as he is casting out devils in Jesus' Name. His doctrine is wrong, and his salvation is between him and God, but he really is casting out devils. I've cast devils out of two men and witnessed it done to my brother when I was a child, and the people Larson deals with are exhibiting the telltale signs of possession. But like Jesus said, casting out devils in His Name doesn't guarantee salvation. I will pray for God to lead Bob Larson, and no, I don't think Bob is of Todd Bentley's ilk since I am convinced that Bentley is possessed by devils himself. Satan can't cast out Satan.

Margies3 10-31-2008 05:56 PM

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Is this the same Bob Larson who used to be on the radio in the early 80's, late 70's? If so, he used to talk all the time about things like Free Masons being sinful. He also wrote a book about churches and organizations that he considered to be - oh shoot, what's the word? It means way off base, anti-Christian???? Rats! Wish I could think of the word. Anyhow, he listed a whole bunch of churches that he said fit this catagory, including Mormons, Jehovah Witnesses and THE UNITED PENTECOSTAL CHURCH.

I had listened to him occasionally up to that point. But once I read that book, I've never listened to him since then.

Praxeas 10-31-2008 06:38 PM

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Bob is a fake and a fraud. I remember him back from the days he had a Radio show and spent 75% of the time talking about how the station was going off the air unless you the hearers came through with some funds...day after day after day it was the same thing

http://www.apologeticsindex.org/l42.html

tv1a 10-31-2008 06:56 PM

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sky angel aired his weekly tv show... sometimes they showed demonic deliverance...

Ev. Duane Williams 10-31-2008 06:57 PM

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Maybe the people on his show are really good actors. If he said UPC'ers(I'm not UPC) were heretics, then he really is against us, not for us.

nahkoe 10-31-2008 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Ev. Duane Williams (Post 620358)
I believe Larson is legit as he is casting out devils in Jesus' Name. His doctrine is wrong, and his salvation is between him and God, but he really is casting out devils. I've cast devils out of two men and witnessed it done to my brother when I was a child, and the people Larson deals with are exhibiting the telltale signs of possession. But like Jesus said, casting out devils in His Name doesn't guarantee salvation.

Ok, I was cautious above...but I'll throw some of that caution to the wind now.

I know demons were cast out in the Bible. But...

Isn't it convenient how many demon possessed people show up at events like the one in the video? Or, do we all have a demon we just don't know about? Hey, I know..maybe that's why all this stuff keeps happening to me! Or, maybe...stuff just happens.

And, how exactly did I do all the things I did, and walk away without being demon possessed? Seriously. If random people walking down the street are possessed, why am I not after years of essentially asking for it? Or again we can go back to the "maybe I really am and I just don't know it.."

Her nose twitched if she got too close to a cross? I could just go so many different directions with that. Let's start with the fact that the cross isn't where the power is. Let's go from there to the fact that Jesus was most likely *not* crucified on a cross that looks like all the pretty necklaces out there. And her nose twitched? Like Bewitched? Please, please give me a break.

I am way not in the mood to go into great detail about my experiences with demons and spiritual warfare tonight, but a nose twitch is not it. Neither is what she described about the inner urges and desires... That's called being human and we all battle with that. Unless she was very seriously downplaying what was happening, and I don't see how anyone who's really experienced it could sit there in front of a camera, presumably being willing to go into detail...isn't that why she was there?...and skip over that difference. And no, I can't find the words to describe it..I'll give her that much benefit of the doubt. But I wouldn't just sit there calmly and say there were inner urges..I'd be doing my very best to hunt for words and expressions to try to describe it, and probably look the part of a fool stumbling over words and being quite fidgity. And I just realized, trying to figure out how I would try to explain it, that part of why it'd be so uncomfortable is because even just thinking about my experiences causes me to relive those sensations and those experiences. They weren't so pleasant in the first place. *And those were external experiences with demons...not possession.*

I don't buy her story, I'm sorry. And it causes me to really doubt the guy. Especially when I weigh that alongside what he had to say. He's too flippant about it. I dare bet if he ever met a demon face to face that he was actually battling with, he'd be quite in shock.

ILG 10-31-2008 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by nahkoe (Post 620391)
I don't buy her story, I'm sorry. And it causes me to really doubt the guy. Especially when I weigh that alongside what he had to say. He's too flippant about it. I dare bet if he ever met a demon face to face that he was actually battling with, he'd be quite in shock.

I think he's messing up in the relationship big time and it's easier to blame it on devils.

Praxeas 10-31-2008 07:03 PM

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He's a fake. He has the same people sometimes on his "show" having a demon cast out. They are actors at the very least or mentally unstable at best. Crosses and Bibles slammed against their head is not how you cast out demons.

Praxeas 10-31-2008 07:05 PM

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auto suggestion of the weak minded. Same way Benny gets the whole front row to fall over by saying "Fire on you". They expect it to happen and so it does

nahkoe 10-31-2008 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 620395)
auto suggestion of the weak minded. Same way Benny gets the whole front row to fall over by saying "Fire on you". They expect it to happen and so it does

Exactly.

nahkoe 10-31-2008 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ILG (Post 620393)
I think he's messing up in the relationship big time and it's easier to blame it on devils.

I meant the Bob Larson guy. lol

I think her guy needs to take some responsibility and figure out how he's going to approach his life from here. I know others who have pulled out of where he is...and others who haven't. There's no easy answer with that much going on, but starting out by saying "I'm here, I don't wanna be anymore, what can I do to change things?" could go a long ways towards getting somewhere.......

ILG 10-31-2008 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by nahkoe (Post 620399)
I meant the Bob Larson guy. lol

I think her guy needs to take some responsibility and figure out how he's going to approach his life from here. I know others who have pulled out of where he is...and others who haven't. There's no easy answer with that much going on, but starting out by saying "I'm here, I don't wanna be anymore, what can I do to change things?" could go a long ways towards getting somewhere.......

Oh. LOL!

But, yeah, that would go much farther than what they are doing in that "service".

Ev. Duane Williams 10-31-2008 07:19 PM

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Okay, point taken. I can't see the video here at work, I've just seen others very quickly on a documentary about possession. Like I said, maybe they are good actors. The nose twitch thing sounds a bit ignorant. The fact that he calls UPC'ers heretics seals the deal. He's a fake, got it.

The last time we had to cast out devils, the possessed man almost overpowered about fifteen to twenty grown men from the congregation, myself included. It took a while, but deliverance finally came. I haven't seen any of Bob's cases that severe.(or any other TV preacher)

nahkoe 10-31-2008 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Ev. Duane Williams (Post 620409)
The last time we had to cast out devils, the possessed man almost overpowered about fifteen to twenty grown men from the congregation, myself included. It took a while, but deliverance finally came. I haven't seen any of Bob's cases that severe.(or any other TV preacher)

I'd like to hear more about that...

mfblume 10-31-2008 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Ev. Duane Williams (Post 620409)

The last time we had to cast out devils, the possessed man almost overpowered about fifteen to twenty grown men from the congregation, myself included. It took a while, but deliverance finally came. I haven't seen any of Bob's cases that severe.(or any other TV preacher)

When people act like that being delivered, they have not repented adequately. There is no fight when the person needing deliverance repents.

mfblume 10-31-2008 07:24 PM

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A guy doesn't have to be on the money to actually cast out devils, you know.

We know. That's the sad part.

If devils are coming out, who cares about the minister? lol That is a good thing! Doesn't condone the minister, though, again.

mfblume 10-31-2008 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 620394)
He's a fake. He has the same people sometimes on his "show" having a demon cast out. They are actors at the very least or mentally unstable at best. Crosses and Bibles slammed against their head is not how you cast out demons.

You're right that crosses and bibles on the person does nothing, but I think the events, themselves, were the real thing. I've seen a lot of this sort of thing in reality, and it was happening with Larson just as I saw it.

But Larson is giving into sensationalism. Even the term "exorcist" is showy.

As someone quoted, people cast out devils in Jesus' day who did not follow him. And Jesus rebuked His disciples for criticizing it. If it is the Spirit of God involved, we better watch we do not blaspheme. Blaspheming the Spirit was mentioned in association with Christ being criticized for casting out devils.

Ev. Duane Williams 10-31-2008 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by mfblume (Post 620413)
When people act like that being delivered, they have not repented adequately. There is no fight when the person needing deliverance repents.

Hard to repent when your mind and actions are controlled by devils, Bro.

mfblume 10-31-2008 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Ev. Duane Williams (Post 620421)
Hard to repent when your mind and actions are controlled by devils, Bro.

Nobody is controlled that much. Even the demoniac ran to Jesus and worshiped him. A person has to stop the theatrics of the devil, and talk to the person about repentance. The devil does not control people as much as some think. A person simply should not bother unless the one needing deliverance has been settled down and spoken to about it. The devil enjoys all that attention, otherwise.

Ev. Duane Williams 10-31-2008 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by mfblume (Post 620422)
Nobody is controlled that much. Even the demoniac ran to Jesus and worshiped him. A person has to stop the theatrics of the devil, and talk to the person about repentance. The devil does not control people as much as some think. A person simply should not bother unless the one needing deliverance has been settled down and spoken to about it. The devil enjoys all that attention, otherwise.

Forgive me, but your response betrays an inexperience with devil possession. The first time I ever had to cast out devils(with my Pastor and other Anointed men and women of God), they came out one at a time, crying with a loud voice. I lost count at about twelve. As each devil was cast out, the young man gained more and more of his own faculties, beginning to cry out to Jesus for forgiveness, and asking Him to cast out the remaining devils. When it was over, he was crying and praising God and received the Holy Ghost shortly afterward. He was baptized in Jesus Name and hasn't looked back.

mfblume 10-31-2008 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Ev. Duane Williams (Post 620433)
Forgive me, but your response betrays an inexperience with devil possession.

I forgive you, but you are quite wrong. :) I have dealt with and cast out devils in people scores and scores of times. I worked with a ministry that had people coming in from across the country for deliverance. We ministered deliverance for people night after night. I learned that letting the devil have a big show is a waste of time, unless you like theatrics, yourself. It is inexperience that allows the devils to rage like they do.

We're wasting our time with someone who goes ballistic with devils. When a person repents, the devil HAS NO POWER over the person. Screaming goes totally. Fighting is gone. Screaming and taking fits is sure sign that repentance is not present. And if someone is manifesting so wildly, you have the authority in Jesus' name to command the devil to stop, and talk to the person.

I've had that happen with people I have prayed for for deliverance, and I stopped them up and talked to them about repentance. And it was not hard to stop them up. As soon as they repented, the devils came out easily without a fight.

Think of it. A legion is 2,000 to 6,000 soldiers in the roman army. And there were that many devils in the man called Legion, and they could not stop the man from running to Jesus and worshiping Him.

Spirits hold onto the people in whom they dwell due to the sins that have not been repented of. We have more power than the devil, and there is no fight. We command the devil to stop his theatrics, and then speak to the person. Repentance absolutely defeats any hold the devils had. This removes their fight and their resistance.

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The first time I ever had to cast out devils(with my Pastor and other Anointed men and women of God), they came out one at a time, crying with a loud voice. I lost count at about twelve. As each devil was cast out, the young man gained more and more of his own faculties, beginning to cry out to Jesus for forgiveness, and asking Him to cast out the remaining devils. When it was over, he was crying and praising God and received the Holy Ghost shortly afterward. He was baptized in Jesus Name and hasn't looked back.
It would have happened much sooner if you calmed the man down and taught him about repentance for things not repented of. I've seen it happen.

None of what you said disproves what I am saying. Repentance kills the power of the devil in anyone. If you want to spend a lot of time fighting with a devil, then forego the repentance. If one is unaware of that, though, you may see deliverance after much wasted time.

Why should we fight with the devil? He is defeated!

mfblume 10-31-2008 08:03 PM

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There are cases when heathens are in need of deliverance and have no clue about repentance. If a devil manifests in those cases, you cannot help but have a fight. But in a general church setting there are lots of opportunities to calm the person down and talk to him/her.

Trouvere on the forum has experienced this many times as well. She can corroborate what I am saying.

Ev. Duane Williams 10-31-2008 08:05 PM

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I prefer to do it the way Jesus and the Apostles did. The Bible says they cried with a loud voice when they came out. Too bad you weren't there, Bro. Blume to show Jesus and the Apostles the right way.

The devils obviously didn't stop these people from making it to the altar, either. That doesn't mean they can control their actions when the devils want to show themselves any better than someone during an epileptic seizure.


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