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Pastor Keith 11-03-2008 01:19 PM

Prophetic Word about the Election
 
Yesterday during our morning AM service, we had a time of prayer about election for President and the Prop. 8 here in California. As we prayed, we had a prophetic word about darkness coming to our land, but that God desired the Church to be a lighthouse and to shine, and many would see the light and come to the knowledge of the Lord.

I am not sure what others are experiencing, but there is a definite change in the spiritual climate of our country. But God's work and ministry will prevail.

StMark 11-03-2008 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by keith4him (Post 621749)
Yesterday during our morning AM service, we had a time of prayer about election for President and the Prop. 8 here in California. As we prayed, we had a prophetic word about darkness coming to our land, but that God desired the Church to be a lighthouse and to shine, and many would see the light and come to the knowledge of the Lord.

I am not sure what others are experiencing, but there is a definite change in the spiritual climate of our country. But God's work and ministry will prevail.

What darkness coming to the land are you referring to and if WHO wins?

be a little more specific keith

Jermyn Davidson 11-03-2008 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by StMark (Post 621778)
What darkness coming to the land are you referring to and if WHO wins?

be a little more specific keith


I think it's obvious this is a ref to the election of a Sen. Obama. Many Christians see the election of Sen. Obama as a very, very, bad thing.







But wouldn't be something if Sen. McCain wins?
Would that make the prophecy then null and void?

Pastor Keith 11-03-2008 01:49 PM

Re: Prophetic Word about the Election
 
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Originally Posted by StMark (Post 621778)
What darkness coming to the land are you referring to and if WHO wins?

be a little more specific keith

Mark,

Obama is going to win, our nation will never be the same again after he and the Dems are done with it, we always talk about end times, Jesus coming back the end time revival etc. Now when it coming nobody wants it, we are to addicted to our lifestyle and comfort. Everyone wants to go to heaven but no one wants to die, mentality.

I am not a pessimist, I am a faith preacher, but this must happen sometime, to someone, why do we think that we are any better than any other generation.

Pastor Keith 11-03-2008 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by 1399 (Post 621781)
I think it's obvious this is a ref to the election of a Sen. Obama. Many Christians see the election of Sen. Obama as a very, very, bad thing.







But wouldn't be something if Sen. McCain wins?
Would that make the prophecy then null and void?

He won't win, I am voting for him, but he won't win.

StMark 11-03-2008 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by keith4him (Post 621784)
He won't win, I am voting for him, but he won't win.



You sure are gloomy Keith - I hope your prophecy fails

I wont call you a false prophet, I'll just rejoice

Pastor Keith 11-03-2008 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by StMark (Post 621790)
You sure are gloomy Keith - I hope your prophecy fails

I wont call you a false prophet, I'll just rejoice

Me to, of course the word never defined what the Darkness was or meant, this is just my interpretation of it. But I would be the first to come to this forum and admit I missed it and would be glad as well.

StMark 11-03-2008 01:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1399 (Post 621781)
I think it's obvious this is a ref to the election of a Sen. Obama. Many Christians see the election of Sen. Obama as a very, very, bad thing.







But wouldn't be something if Sen. McCain wins?
Would that make the prophecy then null and void?


Years ago I heard an old country preacher say this:

"Sometimes God will give you exactly want you want and then
beat the hell out of you with it"

Everyone in the church gasped! But if you think about it, it's true.

revrandy 11-03-2008 01:59 PM

Re: Prophetic Word about the Election
 
The Democrat Perfect Storm...

Obama...
Polosi....
Reid.....

Yuck....

iceniez 11-03-2008 01:59 PM

Re: Prophetic Word about the Election
 
Dark days no matter who is President, I don't know what is going to happen but I know something is going to happen soon. Just a feeling [ not being prophetic a prophet could say what is coming. ] I do know that while I was praying awhile back I was very grieved in my heart and I saw only darkness. I pray Jesus counts us worthy to escape the coming wrath. I'm not trying to be a gloom and doom prophet.

Pastor Keith 11-03-2008 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by StMark (Post 621790)
You sure are gloomy Keith - I hope your prophecy fails

I wont call you a false prophet, I'll just rejoice

Not gloomy, the darker the night, the greater the light. I do have a biblically informed world view though.

StMark 11-03-2008 02:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by keith4him (Post 621782)
Mark,

Obama is going to win, our nation will never be the same again after he and the Dems are done with it, we always talk about end times, Jesus coming back the end time revival etc. Now when it coming nobody wants it, we are to addicted to our lifestyle and comfort. Everyone wants to go to heaven but no one wants to die, mentality.

I am not a pessimist, I am a faith preacher, but this must happen sometime, to someone, why do we think that we are any better than any other generation.


Well, I hope those who voted Obama in office (if he wins) suffers for
the sins of our nation. They will reap what they have sown.

ReformedDave 11-03-2008 02:04 PM

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We'll get what/whom we deserve....

Sam 11-03-2008 02:04 PM

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That prophecy was given 2700 years ago:

1 Arise, shine; for thy light is come, and the glory of the LORD is risen upon thee.
2 For, behold, the darkness shall cover the earth, and gross darkness the people: but the LORD shall arise upon thee, and his glory shall be seen upon thee.
3 And the Gentiles shall come to thy light, and kings to the brightness of thy rising. Isaiah 60:1-3 KJV

Some believe this has been fulfilled in the Church while others see it as being fulfilled in the future in a restored Israel.

Timmy 11-03-2008 02:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by StMark (Post 621794)
Years ago I heard an old country preacher say this:

"Sometimes God will give you exactly want you want and then
beat the hell out of you with it"

Everyone in the church gasped! But if you think about it, it's true.

It is? Seriously?

Timmy 11-03-2008 02:09 PM

Re: Prophetic Word about the Election
 
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Originally Posted by StMark (Post 621799)
Well, I hope those who voted Obama in office (if he wins) suffers for
the sins of our nation. They will reap what they have sown.

You do? Seriously?

StMark 11-03-2008 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 621803)
It is? Seriously?

Yes, I've seen a lot of women pray for a husband only to
regret what they prayed for later on

ReformedDave 11-03-2008 02:11 PM

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The wierd thing is that anyone places faith in these canidates. Talk about the uninformed masses......

MikeinAR 11-03-2008 02:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by StMark (Post 621799)
Well, I hope those who voted Obama in office (if he wins) suffers for
the sins of our nation. They will reap what they have sown.

I voted for GWB in 2000, and I definitely see the error of my ways and have regretted that greatly. The election of GWB certainly hasn't brought the favor or blessing of God upon this country.

Elections don't bring the blessing and favor of God. That has to come through our churches spreading the truth of the Gospel and people being moved by the Spirit of God to repetenance. The recipes never changed.

StMark 11-03-2008 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 621804)
You do? Seriously?



Yes, If our country goes down, I hope the people who voted for Obama suffer rather then the rest of the country. Of course I know we'll all have to suffer the consequences

Antipas 11-03-2008 02:13 PM

Re: Prophetic Word about the Election
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by keith4him (Post 621782)
Mark,

Obama is going to win, our nation will never be the same again after he and the Dems are done with it, we always talk about end times, Jesus coming back the end time revival etc. Now when it coming nobody wants it, we are to addicted to our lifestyle and comfort. Everyone wants to go to heaven but no one wants to die, mentality.

I am not a pessimist, I am a faith preacher, but this must happen sometime, to someone, why do we think that we are any better than any other generation.

I think that many of you preacher types are disconnected from reality. When I was a computer technician for LexisNexis I got laid off. When I went to find work I found myself competing with technicians from India here on specialized work Visas. I then did some research...the Government was issuing these work Visas to various corporations like they were CANDY just so they could hire cheap foreign labor...at the expense of AMERICAN FAMILIES. That's the only REAL American VALUES the Republican party lives by...the value of the almighty dollar. My family got washed out and just when we get back on our feet the gas prices skyrocket and the housing market tanks and we're gouged to death. That's food out of the mouths of my children pal. And as far as I'm concerned those who are colluding with corporate power (ON BOTH SIDES) are going to pay for every second of fear and agony our families have endured....along with the idiotic preachers who tell us to vote for those extortionists. They blame the housing problem are CRA....but what these idiots don't tell you is that most of these ARMs that went sour...DON'T QUALIFY under CRA! In addition the CRA doesn't demand ARMs, ARMs were just a tool divised by various lenders in effort to fulfill some of the CRA's requirements, then when they saw how easy it was to lend, lend, lend and make profit off the interest, they over extended by lending to those who couldn't pay. They were AFTER MONEY honey. And guess what...the Bible calls that USURY, and it's a sin!

I got news for you...darkness is coming to America. But it isn't the Democrats who will bring it...nor is it the Republicans. The real problem is that darkness is overwelming our land because the church has become the political lap dog of an earthly political establishment, just like the Catholic church of old! And it's all the political nutcase preachers who are doing it to us. Scaring us into voting the way the pulpit wants us too...news flash...church is BUSINESS. And guess what party panders to BUSINESS? It's not rocket science folks. The church is in bed working up a sweat with the Republican harlot. America is doomed as long as the church is in bed with the system.

Perhaps real Christians would either back out of politics and EVANGELIZE or just allow Christians to vote their concience and focus on EVANGELISM. Either way...the key to fighting the darkness is to spread the light...not elect John McCain!

How's that for a prophetic word?

iceniez 11-03-2008 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeinAR (Post 621808)
I voted for GWB in 2000, and I definitely see the error of my ways and have regretted that greatly. The election of GWB certainly hasn't brought the favor or blessing of God upon this country.

Elections don't bring the blessing and favor of God. That has to come through our churches spreading the truth of the Gospel and people being moved by the Spirit of God to repetenance. The recipes never changed.

So true .

StMark 11-03-2008 02:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeinAR (Post 621808)
I voted for GWB in 2000, and I definitely see the error of my ways and have regretted that greatly. The election of GWB certainly hasn't brought the favor or blessing of God upon this country.



Many people only voted for the lesser of evils.

What choice did we have ? GORE? give me a break!

KERRY??

rgcraig 11-03-2008 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by StMark (Post 621809)
Yes, If our country goes down, I hope the people who voted for Obama suffer rather then the rest of the country. Of course I know we'll all have to suffer the consequences

Just how will that be done?

StMark 11-03-2008 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 621816)
Just how will that be done?


Just how will what be done? only the ones who voted for Obama
suffer?? If that's what you mean, I'm just saying its a hope although not realistic. however, I do think there will be many who will privately regret it although they will probably never admit it

Antipas 11-03-2008 02:18 PM

Re: Prophetic Word about the Election
 
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Originally Posted by StMark (Post 621799)
Well, I hope those who voted Obama in office (if he wins) suffers for
the sins of our nation. They will reap what they have sown.

Friend....if you judged righteous judgment you'd rebuke those who voted Republican too. Both are terribly corrupt politicians. I'm voting Obama because I'm a policy wonk who works for the government and I crunch numbers all day. We can't sustain a functioning nation on what we have now. The Republicans will break the bank and America will be just like Brazil...only the extravantly rich and the extremely poor.

Abraham Lincoln once wrote....
"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. . . . corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed."
-- U.S. President Abraham Lincoln, Nov. 21, 1864
(letter to Col. William F. Elkins)
Ref: The Lincoln Encyclopedia, Archer H. Shaw (Macmillan, 1950, NY)
Now that's a "prophesy" that's coming true as we speak. But everyone's too afraid of the political bullies of the right wing to stand against it.

StMark 11-03-2008 02:21 PM

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Randy, are you going to watch the TBN Prophet ( kim clement) with me tonight?? :ursofunny

Timmy 11-03-2008 02:22 PM

Re: Prophetic Word about the Election
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by StMark (Post 621805)
Yes, I've seen a lot of women pray for a husband only to
regret what they prayed for later on

And that was God's doing?

StMark 11-03-2008 02:23 PM

Re: Prophetic Word about the Election
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Antipas (Post 621823)
Friend....if you judged righteous judgment you'd rebuke those who voted Republican too. Both are terribly corrupt politicians. I'm voting Obama because I'm a policy wonk who works for the government and I crunch numbers all day. We can't sustain a functioning nation on what we have now. The Republicans will break the bank and America will be just like Brazil...only the extravantly rich and the extremely poor.

Abraham Lincoln once wrote....
"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. . . . corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed."
-- U.S. President Abraham Lincoln, Nov. 21, 1864
(letter to Col. William F. Elkins)
Ref: The Lincoln Encyclopedia, Archer H. Shaw (Macmillan, 1950, NY)
Now that's a "prophesy" that's coming true as we speak. But everyone's too afraid of the political bullies of the right wing to stand against it.



If you was voting on economics alone, then I say fine, that's your perogative. However, there are serious moral and spiritual things that are at stake for America and we are at a crossroads

Timmy 11-03-2008 02:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by StMark (Post 621819)
Just how will what be done? only the ones who voted for Obama
suffer?? If that's what you mean, I'm just saying its a hope although not realistic. however, I do think there will be many who will privately regret it although they will probably never admit it

Oh ye of little faith! :toofunny

TRFrance 11-03-2008 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by keith4him (Post 621749)
Yesterday during our morning AM service, we had a time of prayer about election for President and the Prop. 8 here in California. As we prayed, we had a prophetic word about darkness coming to our land, but that God desired the Church to be a lighthouse and to shine, and many would see the light and come to the knowledge of the Lord.

I am not sure what others are experiencing, but there is a definite change in the spiritual climate of our country. But God's work and ministry will prevail.

Keith...I'm curious...
Was this a tongues and interpretation message, or was it a straight prophetic word delivered in English?
Quote:

Originally Posted by StMark (Post 621799)
Well, I hope those who voted Obama in office (if he wins) suffers for
the sins of our nation. They will reap what they have sown.

Why would you wish bad upon someone just because you dont like who they vote for? That's kinda grotesque.

I know several good Christians who will be voting for Obama. I dont agree with their choice... but that doesn't make them bad people, and I don't think the need to suffer for their decision to vote for him.

StMark 11-03-2008 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 621831)
And that was God's doing?

I just stated that I heard a preacher make that statement and that may be what takes place in America. the folks that want Obama may get him and then wished they had not voted for him

MikeinAR 11-03-2008 02:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by StMark (Post 621813)
Many people only voted for the lesser of evils.

What choice did we have ? GORE? give me a break!

KERRY??

Thanks for proving my point.

So people like me and most of the others on this forum, chose the one who we considered the lesser of the two evils and God neither blessed it or favored it. Unless you call the greatest economic crisis since the great Depression and 4500 U.S. soliders killed the blessing and favor of God.


Now you're hoping and suggesting people go vote for the "lesser of evils" again, when it didn't work out so good in 2000 or 2004. :snapout

ReformedDave 11-03-2008 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by StMark (Post 621833)
If you was voting on economics alone, then I say fine, that's your perogative. However, there are serious moral and spiritual things that are at stake for America and we are at a crossroads

Economics is not moral???????

Antipas 11-03-2008 02:26 PM

Re: Prophetic Word about the Election
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeinAR (Post 621808)
I voted for GWB in 2000, and I definitely see the error of my ways and have regretted that greatly. The election of GWB certainly hasn't brought the favor or blessing of God upon this country.

Elections don't bring the blessing and favor of God. That has to come through our churches spreading the truth of the Gospel and people being moved by the Spirit of God to repetenance. The recipes never changed.

Amen!

What most of the right wing ministers don't realize is that it's their unholy marriage with politics is what's destroying this nation. On election day...the R-N-C is G-O-D for most Christians in America. The candidate becomes the savior. Bros...that's idolatry. I'm voing my conscience after reviewing policies and crunching numbers....and I'm holding my nose and voting Obama. Not because he's a Messiah and America will be blessed if he wins (like Republican Christians think about their candidate), but because the policies are far better for the average American family.

ReformedDave 11-03-2008 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Antipas (Post 621841)
Amen!

What most of the right wing ministers don't realize is that it's their unholy marriage with politics is what's destroying this nation. On election day...the R-N-C is G-O-D for most Christians in America. The candidate becomes the savior. Bros...that's idolatry. I'm voing my conscience after reviewing policies and crunching numbers....and I'm holding my nose and voting Obama. Not because he's a Messiah and America will be blessed if he wins (like Republican Christians think about their candidate), but because the policies are far better for the average American family.

The democrats have the same messianic vision.......

StMark 11-03-2008 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 621834)
Oh ye of little faith! :toofunny


O ye of NO faith!!! :ursofunny:tease

Antipas 11-03-2008 02:28 PM

Re: Prophetic Word about the Election
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by StMark (Post 621813)
Many people only voted for the lesser of evils.

What choice did we have ? GORE? give me a break!

KERRY??

Here's the issue StMark...if you place a moral value on your vote and you vote for the lesser of two evils...you still voted for evil.

Ask yourself, who would Jesus vote for, Nero or Caligula? Answer: neither. Jesus wouldn't vote. He'd be out preaching on the mountain side on election day.

StMark 11-03-2008 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ReformedDave (Post 621840)
Economics is not moral???????



I can be, but we are talking more about ideologies here

Timmy 11-03-2008 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by StMark (Post 621836)
I just stated that I heard a preacher make that statement and that may be what takes place in America. the folks that want Obama may get him and then wished they had not voted for him

And you agreed. I don't agree. I don't think God gives us what we want and then makes sure we suffer for it ("... beat the hell out of you with it").


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