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IsolatedSaint 11-04-2008 10:45 PM

It's NOT OVER!!!!Berg vs Obama lawsuit!!!
 
Obama is still not constitutionally qualified to be POUSA. This is not over!!!!
If he gets sworn in Jan 23rd, then it's time for a revolution or it's time to leave the country. We have a work to do!!! Civil disobedience will be the order of the day.

Sherri 11-04-2008 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by IsolatedSaint (Post 623967)
Obama is still not constitutionally qualified to be POUSA. This is not over!!!!
If he gets sworn in Jan 23rd, then it's time for a revolution or it's time to leave the country. We have a work to do!!! Civil disobedience will be the order of the day.

Who says he's not qualified? Are you talking about his birth certificate?

StMark 11-04-2008 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Sherri (Post 623978)
Who says he's not qualified? Are you talking about his birth certificate?


He was born in Kenya - the media and those in higher power covered it up

Sherri 11-04-2008 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by StMark (Post 623985)
He was born in Kenya - the media and those in higher power covered it up

Who says?????

StMark 11-04-2008 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Sherri (Post 623987)
Who says?????




read up on it - It's been totally covered up by the media.

I heard a radio talk show on it a few weeks ago that blew my mind.
It's been in and out of court- could end up being a big court battle

There's also a book out called "obamanation' I think that talked about it,

HappyTown 11-05-2008 01:30 AM

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http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/o/obama-birth.htm

Summary of the eRumor:
There are a couple of eRumors about this.

A couple of eRumors:

One says Obama was born in Hawaii before it became a part of the United States and is, therefore, not a U.S. citizen by birth, which is a requirement for being president.

The other says that U.S. law stipulates that if only one parent was a citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten year, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16. The eRumor says that Obama's mother was only 18 when he was born, which was only 2 years after the age of 18. One version claims to be from economist Thomas Sowell.
The Truth:
All of these claims are intentional hoaxes, including the version that claims to be from Thomas Sowell. Somebody simply tacked his name onto the eRumor.

First, Hawaii became a part of the United States in 1959. Barack Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961 so his birth was in the United States, not just a U.S. territory. Obama has posted his birth certificate on his web site. CLICK HERE for that page. Even if he had been born in Hawaii when it was a U.S. territory, he would still be regarded as a citizen. According to The Immigration and Nationality Act, Title III, SEC. 305. [8 U.S.C. 1405], "A person born in Hawaii on or after April 30, 1900, is a citizen of the United States at birth." Republican candidate John McCain was born in Panama and is considered to be a U.S. citizen under the same act. McCain was born on a U.S. military base and both of his parents were U.S. citizens.

If Obama was born in Hawaii, the issue of the citizenship of his mother is not relevant because he would be a citizen by birth. But the law cited in the eRumor about having just one parent with U.S. citizenship applied to persons born outside of the United States (or specified U.S. territories). Between December 24, 1952 and November 13, 1986, the law specified that if you were born outside of the United States and only one of your parents was a citizen, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least 10 years, at least 5 of which were after the age of 16.

The qualifications for president are set in Article II, Section 1 of the United States Constitution: "No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty-five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States."

After these two eRumors circulated, an Illinois attorney filed a lawsuit claiming that Obama was not born in Hawaii but was born in the African country of Kenya. CLICK HERE for more on that story.

CLICK HERE for a list of other related stories about Barack Obama

timlan2057 11-05-2008 02:57 AM

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One says Obama was born in Hawaii before it became a part of the United States and is, therefore, not a U.S. citizen by birth, which is a requirement for being president.
And that one is total rubbish.

All these black helicopter rumors are; but I can speak personally to this one.

I was born in Tripler Army Hospital in Honolulu, Hawaii on September 20, 1957.

So I wasn't actually born in a state, since Hawaii was a US territory at the time.

I am an American citizen and constitutionally eligible to run for office.

jediwill83 11-05-2008 05:45 AM

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Whatever...even if they DID find something on the guy no one is going to touch him.

ManOfWord 11-05-2008 07:04 AM

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True. All this "black helicopter" stuff is rubbish! It's over! Deal with it and pray that the man listens to God's voice. I do NOT wish him failure. I wish him to be blessed the way God wants to bless him and his leadership. I didn't demonize before the election and I'm not about to now. I wish the election would have gone the other way, but it went exactly the way I thought it would and the way I said it would.

I slept very well last night. I got up this morning as positive as ever and the Lord is on the throne! I will go about my Father's business as usual and He will be glorified! :D

tamor 11-05-2008 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ManOfWord (Post 624198)
True. All this "black helicopter" stuff is rubbish! It's over! Deal with it and pray that the man listens to God's voice. I do NOT wish him failure. I wish him to be blessed the way God wants to bless him and his leadership. I didn't demonize before the election and I'm not about to now. I wish the election would have gone the other way, but it went exactly the way I thought it would and the way I said it would.

I slept very well last night. I got up this morning as positive as ever and the Lord is on the throne! I will go about my Father's business as usual and He will be glorified! :D

For anyone who does wish him failure, they are bringing it on themselves, as he is the new leader of our country.

TRFrance 11-05-2008 07:23 AM

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It's over.
Time to let it go.

LadyChocolate 11-05-2008 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by tamor (Post 624200)
For anyone who does wish him failure, they are bringing it on themselves, as he is the new leader of our country.

You are right Tamor! I was just telling someone that we can't hope he fails because that would mean more heartache for us.... I did not want obama in office. I did my part and voted and that's all I can do....

I can rest in the fact that my life is in God's hands and not in obama's.... or any other man....

tamor 11-05-2008 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by LadyChocolate (Post 624206)
You are right Tamor! I was just telling someone that we can't hope he fails because that would mean more heartache for us.... I did not want obama in office. I did my part and voted and that's all I can do....

I can rest in the fact that my life is in God's hands and not in obama's.... or any other man....

Exactly. Same here. I exercised my right to vote against him, but if he "fails", we all suffer.

IsolatedSaint 11-05-2008 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by tamor (Post 624200)
For anyone who does wish him failure, they are bringing it on themselves, as he is the new leader of our country.

Obama is an illegal alien......the constitution needs to be upheld. If I have to present documentaion of my US citizenship when I go apply for a $6.50/hr job at a 7-11 store then Obama also has to to be President. For those that want to take action:

http://www.rallycongress.com/constit...ification/1244. You can go to sleep and be in denial all you want to and that's your choice, but for those of us that don't like the way this scenario has played out so far, there is a potential legal remedy.

LadyChocolate 11-05-2008 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by tamor (Post 624209)
Exactly. Same here. I exercised my right to vote against him, but if he "fails", we all suffer.

You know.... I was just thinking.... that while even though yesterday seemed like doom for many people, I am looking forward to seeing what God is going to do... With the economy the way it is, the world in the shape it's in; it will be nice to see God's people "making it" through!

When money is tight, I believe God will still make a way for faithful to pay bills, put gas in the car and food on the table.

When people are consumed with depression, fear and hopelessness, God's peope are going to have that peace that passes all understanding...

God's people will find favor, when it seems like there's no favor to be found!

TRFrance 11-05-2008 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by IsolatedSaint (Post 624212)
Obama is an illegal alien......the constitution needs to be upheld. If I have to present documentaion of my US citizenship when I go apply for a $6.50/hr job at a 7-11 store then Obama also has to to be President. For those that want to take action:

www.rallycongress.com/constitutionalqualification/1244. You can go to sleep and be in denial all you want to and that's your choice, but for those of us that don't like the way this scenario has played out so far, there is a potential legal remedy.

It's over.
Time to let it go.

Free yourself.

It's time for us to re-focus on the work of God's kingdom.

jediwill83 11-05-2008 07:33 AM

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And besides...if he DOES send out helicopters they wont be black...change remember?....wheres his email addy....ive always been partial to a nice soft fuscia.lol j-k!

deacon blues 11-05-2008 07:34 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by IsolatedSaint (Post 623967)
Obama is still not constitutionally qualified to be POUSA. This is not over!!!!
If he gets sworn in Jan 23rd, then it's time for a revolution or it's time to leave the country. We have a work to do!!! Civil disobedience will be the order of the day.

Honestly how do we get these people on AFF?

jediwill83 11-05-2008 07:41 AM

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Look ya'll,God holds the hearts of kings in His hand...he sets them up and brings them down.We are on the cusp of the greatest outpouring of the HolyGhost the world has ever seen.If changing circumstances force us to draw closer to Him so be it we will be the better for it.If darkness comes we will shine all the brighter for we are the people of the Name and His light dwells"or at least it should" in us.I promise u God is not throwing a hissy wanting a recount...He is in control.

Mercy 11-05-2008 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by IsolatedSaint (Post 623967)
If he gets sworn in Jan 23rd, then it's time for a revolution or it's time to leave the country. We have a work to do!!! Civil disobedience will be the order of the day.


There was another thread about "need extra police" or something like that about people rioting if he lost. I made a statement that I felt like people would cause a problem if he won (my main thought being people wanting to succeed from the union like during the civil war....causing a civil war).

Someone posted they didnt think that would happen.

And here we have a post of someone willing to do just that. Hmmmmm....

I think it would be easier to deal with your anger if you just deal with the REAL reason you are upset. This has nothing to do with politics.

I stopped reading this forum for a long time during the election process because of the hatred and dirty words covered up in things like "muslim"...."liberal"...."Osama".

Guess I need to stop reading it again. Its sad that people who claim to know the truth are so....mean. McCain is no more or less of a Christian than Obama. Just knows what to say. If McCain came and wanted to pastor one of your churches you'd have a hissy fit cuz you know he is not "saved" like you believe in salvation....never understood how he could still be called a christian by you.

Oh well....guess I need to just stop reading and trying to understand the mindset of "some" Americans.

Theresa 11-05-2008 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by TRFrance (Post 624205)
It's over.
Time to let it go.

no, it's time to pray like you've never prayed before.

This is a very significant moment in the future of our country, for the world even...

This change was necessary to bring about the endtime...IMO.

McCain, while our hope, could have only delayed the inevitable for 4 years..as best.


God is the one in control here, we need to be ready

MrsMcD 11-05-2008 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ManOfWord (Post 624198)
True. All this "black helicopter" stuff is rubbish! It's over! Deal with it and pray that the man listens to God's voice. I do NOT wish him failure. I wish him to be blessed the way God wants to bless him and his leadership. I didn't demonize before the election and I'm not about to now. I wish the election would have gone the other way, but it went exactly the way I thought it would and the way I said it would.

I slept very well last night. I got up this morning as positive as ever and the Lord is on the throne! I will go about my Father's business as usual and He will be glorified! :D

Yep, it's time for folks to stop fussing and start praying. :friend

IsolatedSaint 11-05-2008 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Theresa (Post 624224)
no, it's time to pray like you've never prayed before.

That's right and not these lame duck prayers I've heard in some apostolic churches over the last 8 years....you know, "bless our president, Poor Bush, he's been under so much stress". Real warfare praying like I used to hear during the Clinton administration.

deltaguitar 11-05-2008 07:55 AM

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Somehow I am not worried. My father in heaven knows which man is best for his will and why would I want to be out of the will of God.

This is a historical election and though I did not vote for Obama I find myself feeling a proud of our country that for the world to see a black man is President of the United States.

:usa

MrsMcD 11-05-2008 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by IsolatedSaint (Post 624236)
That's right and not these lame duck prayers I've heard in some apostolic churches over the last 8 years....you know, "bless our president, Poor Bush, he's been under so much stress". Real warfare praying like I used to hear during the Clinton administration.

I'm just worried that Obama is going to make Clinton look like a saint. Not a good thought.

deltaguitar 11-05-2008 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by IsolatedSaint (Post 624236)
That's right and not these lame duck prayers I've heard in some apostolic churches over the last 8 years....you know, "bless our president, Poor Bush, he's been under so much stress". Real warfare praying like I used to hear during the Clinton administration.

So you only pray when things aren't going your way. Very typical. :whistle

jediwill83 11-05-2008 07:58 AM

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Exactly...this is just God kicking us in the rear telling us to wake up!Shake off the apathy!We have been asleep for too long.

jediwill83 11-05-2008 08:01 AM

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....maybe a stint as a community organizer would do MY resume some good...JUST KIDDING FOLKS!

deltaguitar 11-05-2008 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by jediwill83 (Post 624242)
Exactly...this is just God kicking us in the rear telling us to wake up!Shake off the apathy!We have been asleep for too long.

Hilarious, . . . the church and God's plan was predestined before the world and you think that something you do is going to change that. God will have a church despite us and we only have hope for the future.

It is time for everyone to calm down and accept that we have a new president. It can't all be bad.

MrsMcD 11-05-2008 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by jediwill83 (Post 624242)
Exactly...this is just God kicking us in the rear telling us to wake up!Shake off the apathy!We have been asleep for too long.

Did America get what we deserve for going in the direction of a Godless America?

TRFrance 11-05-2008 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by deacon blues (Post 624218)
Honestly how do we get these people on AFF?

LOL

Funny but true.

Some days, it's like a jungle here on AFF... where only the laws of the jungle apply.

jediwill83 11-05-2008 08:03 AM

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Well...the gate was unlocked and I just kinda walked in....hehe

Theresa 11-05-2008 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by deltaguitar (Post 624238)
Somehow I am not worried. My father in heaven knows which man is best for his will and why would I want to be out of the will of God.

This is a historical election and though I did not vote for Obama I find myself feeling a proud of our country that for the world to see a black man is President of the United States.

:usa

I agree with you


It is a big step


even if it was for all the wrong reasons

IsolatedSaint 11-05-2008 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by deltaguitar (Post 624240)
So you only pray when things aren't going your way. Very typical. :whistle

No, I prayed just as hard(if not harder) during the Bush administration, but a good majority that call themselves "saved' felt like when Bush was elected(selected) that they didn't have to pray anymore because we got a "conservative" in office now, we don't have to worry kind of attitude. So I believe many stopped praying the way they prayed when Clinton was in office, started praying these mealy-mouthed prayers.

jediwill83 11-05-2008 08:13 AM

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Only thing that concerns me right now is Russia putting missiles in the Baltic and Israel and Gaza going at it like 2 redheaded step-children...not a coincidence right after the election...I think they will see him as soft on national security...they know from previous stances that he isnt apt to be a world police type so they are going to push the envelope...try to punk him out...hope to God he makes some good choices.

deltaguitar 11-05-2008 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by IsolatedSaint (Post 624253)
No, I prayed just as hard(if not harder) during the Bush administration, but a good majority that call themselves "saved' felt like when Bush was elected(selected) that they didn't have to pray anymore because we got a "conservative" in office now, we don't have to worry kind of attitude. So I believe many stopped praying the way they prayed when Clinton was in office, started praying these mealy-mouthed prayers.

Like I said before, if you think that God is going to change his will just because we don't like a candidate you have another thing coming.

Obama is not "evil" or "Hitler" or the "anti-christ". He is just a very good politician who happens to be liberal but moved way right to get elected. The fact that he had to move right should give some comfort as to the direction of this country.

Theresa 11-05-2008 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by deltaguitar (Post 624259)
Like I said before, if you think that God is going to change his will just because we don't like a candidate you have another thing coming.

Obama is not "evil" or "Hitler" or the "anti-christ". He is just a very good politician who happens to be liberal but moved way right to get elected. The fact that he had to move right should give some comfort as to the direction of this country.

and anyone who believes bible prophecy knows it is going to take a liberal in the white house, and liberal controlled house and senate to make the necessary changes to the american mindset....

jediwill83 11-05-2008 08:26 AM

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Reading on Drudge where Russian president just gave a 85 minute state of the union address without one mention of Obama.

IsolatedSaint 11-05-2008 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by deltaguitar (Post 624259)
Like I said before, if you think that God is going to change his will just because we don't like a candidate you have another thing coming.

Obama is not "evil" or "Hitler" or the "anti-christ". He is just a very good politician who happens to be liberal but moved way right to get elected. The fact that he had to move right should give some comfort as to the direction of this country.

You are assuming this is God's will when God has NOTHING to do with this or any other election for that matter. He gave man DOMINION over this earth. Now I started this thread because there is something that you can do legally(or at least pray about)besides sit on your blessed assurance to wait for a pre-tribulation rapture to catch you out of here before all hell breaks loose.

Obama cannot legally be president of the US....he has refused to provide documentation and proof of US citizenship and he has used legal manuevers to sidestep the issue. Now if you're satisfied with that, that's your choice.

www.obamacrimes.com

deltaguitar 11-05-2008 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Theresa (Post 624261)
and anyone who believes bible prophecy knows it is going to take a liberal in the white house, and liberal controlled house and senate to make the necessary changes to the american mindset....

I don't believe half the stuff I hear about Bible prophecy. They take scriptures from all over and try to link it up.


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