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Praxeas 11-06-2008 03:09 AM

Vote no on Prop 8?
 
Lot's of protesters angry that we passed Prop 8....funny thing is they carry signs saying vote NO on prop 8...lol a little late

Sweet Pea 11-06-2008 08:44 AM

Re: Vote no on Prop 8?
 
We cannot stop fasting and praying about this.... the fight is not over!

El Apostolico 11-06-2008 02:11 PM

Re: Vote no on Prop 8?
 
Yes we can...on prop 8 ;-)

clgustaveson 11-06-2008 02:12 PM

Re: Vote no on Prop 8?
 
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Originally Posted by Sweet Pea (Post 625205)
We cannot stop fasting and praying about this.... the fight is not over!

The cool thing about the U.S. is the people usually win... if you lose than a majority sill won... why fight it?

Praxeas 11-06-2008 02:27 PM

Re: Vote no on Prop 8?
 
The sad thing is...the people won once before here in California and all it took was one liberal circuit judge to make a proposition invalid after passing.

We all knew this would come. What gets me is the DA of Los Angeles is filling...he is gonna put tax payer resources into this...where were mostly ear marked for prosecuting criminals. It should be the action of private citizens or law firms at their own costs to do this

Sherri 11-06-2008 05:07 PM

Re: Vote no on Prop 8?
 
Looks like it will go before the CA Supreme Court, who allowed the gay marriages before. Eventualy it will probably go before the U.S. Supreme Court.

A_PoMo 11-06-2008 05:11 PM

Re: Vote no on Prop 8?
 
The ACLU filed a lawsuit against it yesterday. And the drama continues in this endless saga of "As My Stomach Churns".

nahkoe 11-06-2008 05:12 PM

Re: Vote no on Prop 8?
 
Can I ask a question about this?


Ok, good, cuz I'm going to. lol

Does it really matter if it's legal or not? It happens...we have to raise our children in the world we're in. We already have to teach them our values, or not. Does it matter what happens in someone else's home? How does pushing your values on other people help anyone? People will do what they're going to do regardless. It really doesn't seem any different to me than common law marriage. That's legal in some states. Has that impacted your or your family adversely?

Michael The Disciple 11-06-2008 10:49 PM

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I commend California's majority for voting right. It stuns that the Courts just overthrow the law and the will of the majority. The gays will not give up. Keep coming back again and again and wear the people out. They are probably amazed at how far they have come.

15 years ago it was still seen as evil by most. Now its as if it were less than nothing to be a Sodomite.

Sherri 11-06-2008 11:53 PM

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The California Atty. General Jerry Brown said tonight that it was the churches' fault that Proposition 8 failed. He included in that all churches and synagogues, including Catholic, Mormons, Christians, Jews, etc. He went on to say that now the churches had to be silenced!! That's scary, as that's what has happened in Canada and Sweden, right? You cannot speak out against homosexuality.

Does that also mean that they cannot refuse to do homosexual weddings in their churches?

Sam 11-07-2008 12:10 AM

Re: Vote no on Prop 8?
 
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Originally Posted by Sherri (Post 625765)
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Does that also mean that they cannot refuse to do homosexual weddings in their churches?

I would think in time (maybe under our new Democrat President and Congress) churches would lose their tax exempt status and ministers would lose their right to solemnize legal weddings if they refused to perform homosexual weddings.

Sam 11-07-2008 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Sam (Post 625767)
I would think in time (maybe under our new Democrat President and Congress) churches would lose their tax exempt status and ministers would lose their right to solemnize legal weddings if they refused to perform homosexual weddings.

Also, the public reading of, or quoting of, or the printing of, certain passages in the Bible that appear to speak against homosexuality could become illegal and be considered "hate speech."

Praxeas 11-07-2008 12:37 AM

Re: Vote no on Prop 8?
 
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Originally Posted by nahkoe (Post 625573)
Can I ask a question about this?


Ok, good, cuz I'm going to. lol

Does it really matter if it's legal or not? It happens...we have to raise our children in the world we're in. We already have to teach them our values, or not. Does it matter what happens in someone else's home?

Gay marriages have nothing to do with what others do in their own homes

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How does pushing your values on other people help anyone?
thank God we pushed our values on others, like do no murder or, you shall not steal. BTW It's not "values"...this is not an anti homosexual law. They are still allowed to do their dirty deeds in private AND even be joined in civil unions AND get married by whoever will perform that ceremony.

This is about getting the state to officially recognize and approveTHEM as a special group and then get YOU to to do the same

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People will do what they're going to do regardless.
So let's legalize murder


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It really doesn't seem any different to me than common law marriage. That's legal in some states. Has that impacted your or your family adversely?
Then let them have their "common law" marriage. If you can't see the larger agenda and the big picture of what is happening in this day and age then I don't think explaining it more than what I have is going to matter

Praxeas 11-07-2008 12:40 AM

Re: Vote no on Prop 8?
 
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Originally Posted by Sherri (Post 625765)
The California Atty. General Jerry Brown said tonight that it was the churches' fault that Proposition 8 failed. He included in that all churches and synagogues, including Catholic, Mormons, Christians, Jews, etc. He went on to say that now the churches had to be silenced!! That's scary, as that's what has happened in Canada and Sweden, right? You cannot speak out against homosexuality.

Does that also mean that they cannot refuse to do homosexual weddings in their churches?

You got a source for that by Brown?

Sherri 11-07-2008 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 625772)
You got a source for that by Brown?

It was on the news here in CA yesterday.


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