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I think we'd all agree that magic, incantations, spells, etc. are all witchcraft and are condemned by God. But what about people who are not into the occult in any way who have extra sensory perception that allows them to "feel" certain things before they happen, "envision" things that are happing or have happened in other places, read minds, or project thoughts and impressions to others? While I am skeptical about anything that claims to be "psychic", I think there are individuals who may have been born with or who may have developed these abilities outside of the framework of the occult or satanism.

Are these individuals "witches" or are they just gifted with extra sensory abilities?

Is the use of these extra sensory abilities a sin?

Just something I'd thought I'd ask because a friend of mine at work asked about my thoughts on psychic phenomena.

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I don't honestly know, but it's not fun nor is it pleasant. Within the framework of witchcraft, I could at least *do* something with it. Now, I'm back to wondering why I know things, feel things, sense things, and what on earth I'm supposed to do with/about it.

I have, in the past, absolutely HATED being so sensitive to the supernatural. I'm mostly at peace with it now, it is what it is. But I still don't know why or how or what to do with what I know. I mostly don't tell people cuz most of the stuff I know doesn't matter, and what does is either scoffed at or it ends up creating even *more* chaos when the person knows about it than if they wouldn't have.

It really bothers me to *know* that I know something, and have to just keep that information to myself and see if it really comes to pass (always, when I know like that, it always happens exactly the way I know it will).

I think I hate most though, when I know *something* bad is going to happen, but I don't know what it is. Bleh.

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Interesting.

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I think it's a natural prophetic gifting, but it can either be used in conjunction with God's Holy Spirit or with demonic spirits. A psychic who gets saved would probably be more open to hearing from God once they turn their thoughts in the right direction. JMHO.

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Very interesting opinion.

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I have always been super sensitive too. As far as the spiritual stuff....well, I've had spiritual stuff happen too. I work hard on being logical because if I don't this side of me gets too overworked. I think some people are born with being highly sensitive. These kinds of people can also be very sensitive to certain fabrics, tastes, textures, etc. just as some people are born hard headed. If I "know" something bad is going to happen but I don't know what, I try to put it out of my head. God is not the author of confusion and sometimes I am wrong.

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I should say on the flip side, I do pay attention to things others would not.

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If I feel like something bad is about to happen but don't know what I pray about it and ask God to intervene in whatever the situation might be that's unfolding.

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Oooh. Very interesting. Can you give an example?

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Well, yeah, I do that too. But then I try to forget about it. Anxiety is not a good thing.

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It's hard to explain. A tiny flit of an eye. One finger moving slightly. This is distracting when I am talking to people and sometimes miss what they are saying.

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Physics, what are they? Obviously if you were one, you would know!:ursofunny


Seriously, there is a book by Watchmen Nee called, "The Latent Power Of The Soul!"
A very controversial book that I have read.

Very interesting!

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this is kinda like asking "I know we all disagree there are people living on mars, but what about the aliens that come from other solar systems?" Uh...there are? Most psychics are frauds. I thought this was settled by Houdini

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Have you watched the show "Pysch?" That would explain some of it. It is not all about "knowing" but a combination of things. It is being more observant, picking up on little things, and sense.

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...an opinion I just happen to agree with. It is my opinion that probably 99% of psychics are fakes, but maybe 1% have a true gift. I believe, like Jeremiah, some people are born with certain spiritual gifts. Maybe we all are. The problem is, some never meet the Lord or are never taught to use the gift as God intended. The "gift" is corrupted to lead people from the Lord rather than to Him. Sort of like the "healers". A very few are genuine, most, however are as fake as Ben... well, I'll let others provide the examples.

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I agree with this. I think most psychics are fake. Some people just naturally pick up on things others would not. These people are probably also prone to anxiety because of information overload and over stimulation to the environment. This is somewhat of a disability. Here are a bunch of books on being highly sensitive:

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw...refix=highly+s

Some people might wonder why I am bringing this up. I think that some people who think they are psychic are simply highly sensitive. It might also make sense that someone who is highly sensitive to things would also be highly sensitive to spiritual things. I think a person needs to be very careful with this. God is God and no one knows the future or what another person is thinking. They might be able to guess. But unless God reveals something, no one knows anything.

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And considering that there has never been a single true psychic observed under laboratory conditions. MANY have tried (and some succeeded initially through pure magical trickery -initially).

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Indeed.

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I am also very sensitive to lights, sounds and textures.

Logic is a wonderful gift. lol I'm also *extremely* logical and I don't know if that's natural also, or if that's how I've compensated in some way.

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Interesting. I don't do this.

But I do notice things other people don't always notice. Just little details, worthless trivia, etc.

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I've never really considered the connection between sensory integration disorders and psychic phenomena. I can totally see how the connection could be made though and really don't think it's a shot in the dark sort of theory either.

I really wish I could believe it's as simple as the bolded, but experience says something else for me.

Careful with this? Beyond a doubt.

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I miss many details. But certain ones I never miss. I guess we are all different. :)

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Thank you for your input into what I said.

How do you know it is not either something you picked up because of high sensitivity or that God revealed it to you? What are you attributing an understanding to?

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Quite a few things are likely simple intuition, good guesses. I buy that without any problem. :)

I really doubt God uses Tarot to reveal things.

Because I knew the tricks before I ever started reading, I made sure to minimize the possibility to the best of my ability. Most of the reading I did was for people I had only casual, ONLINE, relationships with. I read as part of an event in a game setting. I didn't allow typing while I was reading/typing. Period. I also did *not* ask leading questions, I rarely asked questions at all because the answers provided clues and hints and I didn't want those.

The readings I did were *always* eerily accurate. Of course, if I didn't have anything for someone, I just said so and moved on. And I only read in private for those who I knew personal details about. (edited to explain why) I'd only read in private because the readings I did always revealed more than I knew....and some of the things had to do with personal details people wouldn't likely want out there. Even while reading for strangers, I was cautious with those sort of things.

What would you attribute deja-vu like experiences to? When something bad is going to happen, I have deja-vu. It increases in frequency and intensity the closer in time I get to the event. There have been times I've known what the event was before it happened. Sometimes it was "so and so died" and the phone would ring. So I guess it was after the event, but before I knew in those cases.

I knew my dad was dead before anyone told me, almost an hour before.

I know having a steel trap sort of mind makes me seem to know more than I really do. I can, and have, made eerie predictions frequently in my life. Those things I just chalk up to that stupid ability to remember useless trivia about everything under the sun.

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Well, I have had the same types of experiences. I won't go into them, lest people chalk me up as looney. I simply don't talk about it much. I will give an example. The day my cat disappeared, I sat on the bed with him and pet him for a long time. I said "If I never see you again after this, I want you to know I love you very much. You have been a great cat to me." Then, he walked out the door and I never saw him again. I loved that cat. I never talked to him like that before that day. I have numbers of experiences like this one both before and after recieving the Holy Ghost. The only time I did not have these experiences in my life was while I was smoking marijuana and drinking a lot. I had a fair amount of fear at that time, but no good experiences I can remember. During my time in the UPC I had more fear than I had ever had in my life, but I had many, many super experiences and I continue to have them.

During my time in the UPC, I did much experimentation with spiritual experiences. A lot of fasting and praying and such. I found it was not good mentally or emotionally to stay there for too long. God made us to also live in this life as well. I went way over into that realm much to my detriment. The fear came with it. Experiences came with it. Fear was in my day to day life but not in the experiences. It was like I was addicted to the experiences to avoid the fear. Now, I realize the fear was connected to the negative preaching, much of it untrue.

Now, I try to live a balance. If something causes fear, I avoid it. I realize that prayer sometimes causes a bad reaction, taking me back to the fear I used to experience. When this happens, I find praying while driving or walking is better. And the experiences? They still happen, but, I think God wanted me to have closure over my cat. I think this was a need in me that God met. And not a superspiritual experience.

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lol Good point.

I agree with you, most psychics are frauds. But I think there are some folks with a gift of sorts that boarders on the unexplainable.

My family on my mom's side is from West Virginia, and they aren't really "Christian" but my grandmother has told me about people in our extended family that had the "anointing". They dreamed about the future, could read your mind, had visions, and even, according to my grandmother, could speak with dead relatives. My grandmother said the "anointing" was something some in the family were born with and strongly disagreed with the idea that it had anything to do with the occult or witchcraft.

I think that 99% of so called psychics are frauds...but that 1% might actually have some sort of gift.

Just a thought.

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I think that most of us are born with a sensitivity, but some are better at using it than others. It could be like a muscle that needs to be developed. My husband has an eerie ability to tell what is going to happen in the future. He tells of an Aunt that he had that was the same way. This does not happen with him all the time, but it has happened several times. Enough that my family will call and ask how he feels about something or a certain event. Sometimes he has something definitive to say about it, sometimes he does not.

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I KNEW you all were going to SAY these things




=)

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I also KNEW you were going to say THAT! :ursofunny

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Have any of you seen the new show "The Mentalist"? It's a new show this year. The main guy in it used to (pretend to) be a psychic. But he acknowledges that he is just really observant. It's a good show.

Anyway, I too have experienced times of just "knowing" something, both before, during and after my pentecostal experiences. I have see and experienced some strange things that I cannot explain. I think if I shared too many of them the few that don't already think so, would consider me crazy :tease

But here is one: when I was in high school, there was this girl, and we were just starting to be friends. One night we were outside and we were walking, and she started to tell me about the dream she had had the night before, about these two girls, sisters, who had taken refuge in a cave. They were hiding from the Nazi's. The Nazi's found them, she was shot, and her dream ended.

The strange part? I had had the same dream. Though mine ended differently, we were hiding in the cave, the nazi's found us, they shot my sister, I ran out of the cave, there was another shot, and then I woke up.

Why would we have the same dream? Why would we be sisters in the dream? What in the world did Nazi's and hiding in caves have to do with anything?

I have no idea. It was weird. I can't explain it, and it makes absolutely no sense.

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I've had strange experiences myself. Here's one example...

Sometimes when I drive I get this really strange uneasy feeling and a tightness in my right hand. I just turn on the radio and drive. Well there was this rout in Beavercreek Ohio that would "soothe" me when I drove it. It would lead through a winding nighborhood and it would turn me around in a cul-de-sac. Sometimes my wife would be with me and she'd ask me about it and why I drove it so often, I'd answer, "This drive just relaxes me."

Well....she met this girl at work and has since become best friends with her and she's become really close to the both of us. Well, one day we went out to lunch with her and she invited us over to see her dog. So we followed her to her house. As we got closer to her house the hair started to stand up on the back of my neck...it was the same rout I was driving on occasion to relax. When she turned into the cul-de-sac where I would turn around, my wife looked at me and said, "How'd you know?" I explained that I didn't have a clue. But it was the strangest feeling in the world.

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The Mentalist IS a good show. It is essentially a somewhat more serious version of USA Networks "Psyche".

As far as being sensitive, I have to admit to being that way as well. Someone even looks at me wrong, and I break down into a pool of tears.

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I think you all are nuts!
I used to see "spirits" all the time when I was a child. The earliest memory of seeing them, I was three yrs old.
And I have used "sight" gifts and "impressions" from God and from other sources.
To say that people have these kids of gifts without a source is nuts! You are either in the Holy Ghost, or you are walking under a demonic anointing.

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That's a rather rash judgment. I know if there is an occult source of such abilities it's demonic. We're talking about things that appear to be natural gifts.

I think we like our world cut and dry with everything explained. If it doesn't fit we just label it as demonic. But here's the deal...real life isn't as cut and dry.

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Are we seeing spirits, or are we seeing the future?

Are we seeing the future, or is it impressions of things to come? Impression, as in, a feeling.???

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For me things of this nature come in "feelings". It's like I just pick up on things down in my gut and I get tension in my right hand, as in the case with driving to the very home of my wife's girlfriend before we ever met her. I don't "see" anything.

As for "spirits", sometimes I've felt them. The impressions I get from them indicate to me as to if it's benevolent or malevolent. I've felt angels, ghosts, and even demonic spirits in the past. It's not something that's controlable either. It just happens out of the blue without warning or apparent reason.

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But I knew it FIRST

:ursofunny

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I love these threads because it allows me to repost this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9w7jHYriFo

Another one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlfMs...eature=related

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There was a someone speaking for a physic network on TV,but that person didn't even know the way to SAN JOSE ,much less be able to read your mind.

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