Question About Strongs Concordance
 

Normally in Strongs whatever word we are wanting to look up has the English word then across from it will be the Strongs number to reference it to the Greek meaning.

What does it mean when there is an English word listed but there is no number across from it?

Re: Question About Strongs Concordance
 

no original greek word.

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Maybe this might help you.
http://www.greek-language.com/lexical.aids/

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Hmmm thats what I thought. But the word I was looking up was not in italics in my Bible which indicates the word being inserted. Thats interesting.

Thanks DM and Scott.

Re: Question About Strongs Concordance
 

What specifically is the verse in question?
Some times a translation cannot be made strictly word for word.

Re: Question About Strongs Concordance
 

Luke 1:35

35: And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.

I was researching the word "thing".

Re: Question About Strongs Concordance
 

"That holy thing" is all translated from G40.

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Probably means the actual word was added by the translators (KJV). If you are referring to the hard copy, it shows everywhere in the bible where that word occurs in the english in the KJV. Go to that verse in the KJV and see if the word is in italics.

BTW Strongs is about the worst dictionary/concordance you can use. It's great for a KJV concordance, but when it comes to the greek/hebrew words definitions and useages it's much better to get an extensive lexicon/dictionary. STrongs is old and outdated and strongs lumps several genders or tenses of a word all under one heading.

For example One in greek. It says "Heis"....but that is the masculine form. Strongs lumped the masculine, neuter and feminine all under that and the gender can sometimes determine HOW the word is to be used.

Neuter often has the use of a unity more often than numeric and masculine often has the use of numerical Oneness more often than a unity

Re: Question About Strongs Concordance
 

ESV
Luk 1:35 And the angel answered her, "The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; therefore the child to be born will be called holy--the Son of God.

NET
Luk 1:35 The angel replied, "The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. Therefore the child to be born will be holy; he will be called the Son of God.

The KJV translated the greek word for Holy into "Holy Thing"

hag'-ee-os
From ἅγος hagos (an awful thing) compare G53, [H2282]; sacred (physically pure, morally blameless or religious, ceremonially consecrated): - (most) holy (one, thing), saint.

It could just as well be Holy One.

Luk 1:35 And the angel answered and said to her, The Holy Spirit shall come on you, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow you. Therefore also that Holy One which will be born of you shall be called Son of God.

Luk 4:34 Saying, Let us alone; what have we to do with thee, thou Jesus of Nazareth? art thou come to destroy us? I know thee who thou art; the Holy One of God.

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Another reason why I refuse to be a KJV only advocate

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I agree....

And if you're poor like me...lol

www.blueletterbible.com

It can be a little challenging to navigate at first, but once you get the hang of it, it's amazing. It includes the Thayer's lexicon for the Greek words and Gesenius' lexicon for Hebrew. Both are very good resources.

There are still downfalls to this study system, but it's free. And hasn't let me down yet when translating for a teacher who speaks Hebrew. So I figure it's good enough. :)

Here's how I navigate, using Luke 1:35 for an example.

Go to www.blueletterbible.com

Near the top it says: New Bible Search.

Type Luke 1:35 in that box and press enter.

It takes you to Luke chapter 1, and should put verse 35 at the top of your screen.

To the left are 6 blue boxes. Click on the C.

That pulls up the Greek text and under that each word set in a table across from the Greek word it was translated from with the Strong's number in between them.

You're curious about "thing". So go down to "that holy thing" and click on the G40 in the Strong's number box. It'll take you to the entry for G40. It'll give you the transliteration, pronunciation, root, Biblical usage, and below that the Thayer's lexicon entry. Most entries need to be expanded, click where it says "click here for the rest of the entry" if you're curious what Thayer's has to say.

If you're not at all familiar with lexicons, the italics is the meaning the other words are explaining it. (really hope I'm not being too basic here! I just remember the first time I looked at a lexicon...wow..lol)

Re: Question About Strongs Concordance
 

I use E-sword. I have Strongs. I have Strongs with TVM "Tense, voice, mood". It has Thayers. It has Vines. It has Brown Driver and Briggs definitions. It has Zodhaties Lexicon of Greek.

I also have the Received Text in greek with strongs numbers next to each word plus it tells you the gender and number etc etc.

It has the Theological Workbook of OT words


Everything except the Lexicon and my premium version of the NET bible (with commentary) were free online

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So John 10:30 Strongs says Heis. Heis, according to Strongs includes Hen and Mia....so which one is at Jn 10:30?

I look at my greek version and it says it is the neuter form (Hen)...

I can compare that with RWP and he says it is Hen.

RWP is a commentary by Robertson Word Pictures, which often includes a lot of greek in it.

I also have Vincents which does the same