Originally Posted by Felicity (Post 62524)

I'm not really sure exactly where the term came from but I just had a flash of inspiration ... :) .... concerning Eli who was a priest and had two sons who were called the sons of Belial by Samuel and were very evil men. God sent judgment as a result of Eli not restraining his sons as their father but also in his role as priest.

So I'm thinking this could be part of where this "priest of your home" thing came from in regard to the responsibility a husband and father carries in the home.

I've heard the expression long as I can remember and have used it too, but it was just always used in conjunction with the understanding that the husband was to be a spiritual leader in his home.



Here's the scripture reference to Eli and his sons .....

1 Sa 3:12 In that day I will perform against Eli all things which I have spoken concerning his house: when I begin, I will also make an end.

1Sa 3:13 For I have told him that I will judge his house for ever for the iniquity which he knoweth; because his sons made themselves vile, and he restrained them not.

1 Sam. 4:17 And the messenger answered and said, Israel is fled before the Philistines, and there hath been also a great slaughter among the people, and thy two sons also, Hophni and Phinehas, are dead, and the ark of God is taken.

1Sa 4:18 And it came to pass, when he made mention of the ark of God, that he fell from off the seat backward by the side of the gate, and his neck brake, and he died: for he was an old man, and heavy. And he had judged Israel forty years.

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 62493)

I believe they are to lead spiritually.

Where did the "Husband is Priest" derive from?

Originally Posted by carpenter

Newman, let me disagree with you anecdotally and with a qualification.

I think the term priest is subjective here. You are saying you do not subscribe to the idea that a man hold a position of authority in his home, a position of spiritual authority, someone who has taken a vow of poverty and chastity (edit:removed comment about the condition of marriage that poverty and chastity promotes )??

Of course being a man, I subscribe to domestic priesthood as a man who is vigilant in leading and protecting his family such that they do not follow false and secular doctrines, principals, ideas, etc. There is also a certain responsibility he has to bring harmony with his extended family. There is much that goes along with this such as the proper raising of his children, providing, as well as fortifying his marriage all the while being submitted to the Lord.

You may not recognize this because you have not been called nor do you have that inertia that comes only by being a man called by God to fortify his family.

I believe the family is in crisis today because men do not recognize WHAT being the priest (similar to what I have described) of his home much less actually BEING the priest of his home.

If we are not, then someone or something else will be.

Originally Posted by Carpenter (Post 62582)

I had heard for years and years directly from the pulpit in the context of admonishing men to get up from the couch to be the "priests of the home".

This is an interesting question, but I am going to repost something...

Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 62611)

Since the man is to be the head thus the leader he should be an intercessor for his family however a leader and an intercessor is not the same as a priest.

Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 62611)

Since the man is to be the head thus the leader he should be an intercessor for his family however a leader and an intercessor is not the same as a priest.

Originally Posted by Coonskinner (Post 62622)

Exactly right.

I don't think the term is exactly accurate.

Originally Posted by Carpenter (Post 62639)

The priest is a subjective term, but everyone has their position in the role of the family. Men better know and fulfill their roles in leadership or the family is on their way to having the same significance and effectiveness as the Whig party.

Originally Posted by Felicity (Post 62621)

Could you elaborate on that a little Bro. Epley?

Originally Posted by Actaeon (Post 62684)

I must be the priest in my home - I keep getting burnt offerings.

Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 62698)

I should be an example in prayer and dedication for my home. I should be praying intercessory prayers for my family. However every person determines their own walk with God I cannot do my wife's praying or childrens.

Originally Posted by Newman (Post 62699)

I sure wish you wife posted! It would be very interesting for sure! :cool:

Originally Posted by Newman (Post 62689)

I did not want to get drawn into this. I agree that men not taking their role in the family is a HUGE isssue and a great hurt to families.

However, that being said... Scripture shows us that a family isn't necesarily doomed if the husband/father is not doing what he is suppose to (providing his wife doesn't just follow his lead).

I point to:

1. Abigail who acted to save her household;

2. The wife of Moses who acted when God was on His way to kill Moses;

3. The mother of the youngest king who must have raised him single handidly to seek God since his father was EVIL;

4. The mother and grandmother of Timothy who taught him to love God and truth;

5. Furthermore; we have some wonderful ministers today that were brought up to love God by their mother not their father's doing.

And the list could continue to go on...

This is not to say that dad is expendable. FAR FROM IT. Society as a whole would benefit tremendously if Dads took their rightful places.
But it is important for wives and mothers to know that there are some places they can't follow their husbands. And they better know that and not think there is some magical umbrella of protection in doing what their husbands want.

Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 62698)

I should be an example in prayer and dedication for my home. I should be praying intercessory prayers for my family. However every person determines their own walk with God I cannot do my wife's praying or childrens.

Originally Posted by Thad (Post 62713)

women today in general wont let the man be in charge in the home.
women are IMO smarter then men and know how to out-talk, out-wit and manipulate with their emotions and other things so the Men often just cave in to save the family or have a little peace of mind. I see it in my church constantly. The men are whipped - i feel for them

Originally Posted by Thad (Post 62713)

women today in general wont let the man be in charge in the home.
women are IMO smarter then men and know how to out-talk, out-wit and manipulate with their emotions and other things so the Men often just cave in to save the family or have a little peace of mind. I see it in my church constantly. The men are whipped - i feel for them

Originally Posted by Thad (Post 62713)

women today in general wont let the man be in charge in the home.
women are IMO smarter then men and know how to out-talk, out-wit and manipulate with their emotions and other things so the Men often just cave in to save the family or have a little peace of mind. I see it in my church constantly. The men are whipped - i feel for them

Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 62698)

I should be an example in prayer and dedication for my home. I should be praying intercessory prayers for my family. However every person determines their own walk with God I cannot do my wife's praying or childrens.

Originally Posted by Felicity (Post 62720)

Do you see it more in the younger generation Thad?

Originally Posted by Newman (Post 62689)

I did not want to get drawn into this. I agree that men not taking their role in the family is a HUGE isssue and a great hurt to families.

However, that being said... Scripture shows us that a family isn't necesarily doomed if the husband/father is not doing what he is suppose to (providing his wife doesn't just follow his lead).

I point to:

1. Abigail who acted to save her household;

2. The wife of Moses who acted when God was on His way to kill Moses;

3. The mother of the youngest king who must have raised him single handidly to seek God since his father was EVIL;

4. The mother and grandmother of Timothy who taught him to love God and truth;

5. Furthermore; we have some wonderful ministers today that were brought up to love God by their mother not their father's doing.

And the list could continue to go on...

This is not to say that dad is expendable. FAR FROM IT. Society as a whole would benefit tremendously if Dads took their rightful places.
But it is important for wives and mothers to know that there are some places they can't follow their husbands. And they better know that and not think there is some magical umbrella of protection in doing what their husbands want.

Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 62721)

Bossy women and henpecked men will not be in the rapture.:tiphat :happydance :happydance

Originally Posted by mfblume (Post 62769)

What about harsh preachers who do not speak truth in gentleness, without striving, in order to allow people to recover themselves from the snare of the devil? :grampa

Oh yeah.

Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 62799)

I will ask my wife and when I get an answer I will get back to you.:tiphat

Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 62611)

Since the man is to be the head thus the leader he should be an intercessor for his family however a leader and an intercessor is not the same as a priest.

Originally Posted by mfblume (Post 62618)

All believers are kings and PRIESTS.

Rev 1:6 KJV And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 62698)

I should be an example in prayer and dedication for my home. I should be praying intercessory prayers for my family. However every person determines their own walk with God I cannot do my wife's praying or childrens.

Originally Posted by Carpenter (Post 62639)

The priest is a subjective term, but everyone has their position in the role of the family. Men better know and fulfill their roles in leadership or the family is on their way to having the same significance and effectiveness as the Whig party.

Originally Posted by Actaeon (Post 62684)

I must be the priest in my home - I keep getting burnt offerings.

Originally Posted by Actaeon (Post 62707)

She can't -- she's too busy with tending to my robes. :tiphat

Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 62721)

Bossy women and henpecked men will not be in the rapture.:tiphat :happydance :happydance

Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 62799)

I will ask my wife and when I get an answer I will get back to you.:tiphat

Originally Posted by Newman (Post 62689)

But it is important for wives and mothers to know that there are some places they can't follow their husbands. And they better know that and not think there is some magical umbrella of protection in doing what their husbands want.

Originally Posted by Carpenter (Post 62843)

...what in the wide wide world of sports are you talking about?

What are these places they can't follow their husbands? We are talking of course about husbands, assumedly that are submitted to God...right?

Originally Posted by Actaeon (Post 62866)

:aaa

The "MEN'S" room for one. :grampa
:aaa

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 62493)

I believe they are to lead spiritually.

Where did the "Husband is Priest" derive from?

Originally Posted by Joelel (Post 62893)

Originally Posted by Thad (Post 62713)

women today in general wont let the man be in charge in the home.
women are IMO smarter then men and know how to out-talk, out-wit and manipulate with their emotions and other things so the Men often just cave in to save the family or have a little peace of mind. I see it in my church constantly. The men are whipped - i feel for them

Originally Posted by Actaeon (Post 62866)

:aaa

The "MEN'S" room for one. :grampa
:aaa

Originally Posted by Carpenter (Post 62986)

...there are some places we would rather them not follow.

Originally Posted by Newman (Post 62689)

I did not want to get drawn into this. I agree that men not taking their role in the family is a HUGE isssue and a great hurt to families.

However, that being said... Scripture shows us that a family isn't necesarily doomed if the husband/father is not doing what he is suppose to (providing his wife doesn't just follow his lead).

I point to:

1. Abigail who acted to save her household;