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Has anyone heard or seen the new U.S. one dollar coin? I heard through the "grape vine" that it does not have the "In God we trust" logo on it. Does anyone know whether that is true or not?

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Not true. It is stamped on the outer edge.

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Thank you. Are you able to show a picture?

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I have no idea why people are so stupid that they say things like that to make others believe it. Gotta love hoaxes to get people stirred up away from things that really matter....like discussing standards.....LOL!

Oh, and I'm not talking about Bro. Eastman being stupid, but the people who started the rumor....just wanted to make that clear.

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You haven't seen any of them up close and personal? I have several.

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These?

http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/dollarcoin.asp

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And why does it really matter anyhow?

He's not an American God. If His name is on the money, no big deal. If it's not, no big deal. He's just so much bigger than this issue. It always makes me kind of wonder if I'm missing something when other's make such a big deal over this.

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:woohoo A more secular America! Perfect! It doesn't affect me any, I don't pledge to the flag, I wouldn't serve in the military, and I might just stop voting :lol! GOD's not interested in America, HE's interested in HIS Holy Nation! I give to Ceasar what is Ceasar's, and I don't bother the US and they don't bother me, and on the coin that JESUS saw in HIS day, it didn't say, "In GOD we Trust" and JESUS didn't seem to mind!

-Bro. Alex

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Actualy it would affect you. You think the rigths we enjoy are always going to be so easliy enjoyed without some involvement?
We would not have them unless someone thought different than you.
THere are those that would totally secularize this nation and ultimatley remaove all vestiges of Christianity and it's (His) influence on our nation and the world.

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I will ALWAYS have the freedom to worship... The early church had the freedom to worship. They were persecuted, but they were still FREE. No one can take the heart out of me that desires to praise my GOD and unless my mouth is stopped I'll continue to praise HIM! Throw me into a Coliseum sure, and you've made my life a testimony to the 20,000 souls surrounded to see the lions eat me. This was the thought of the early church and this is to be our train of thought. Also, I doubt America would get to this point. The USA will probably leave Christians alone, but keep removing GOD from our society, but that's fine, most things that call itself "Christianity" today are not Christian (ie. Nativity scenes, crosses, ect, ect...).

-Bro. Alex

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The loss of your freedom will start somewhere. Don't ever get to the place that you don't care what the world is doing with your freedoms.

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I was watching a special on Hitler and the occult on the History channel today and it reminded me that "they" will often come for people that you may not like yourself before "they" come for you, at which point there is no one left to speak up.

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This is how the 'dumbing down' effect starts...let's start with something small in seemingly insignificant and then we'll blindside them when they aren't looking.

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It's not even that, but the fact that no one should be a target and 'removed'. Many would applaud if gays and communists were rounded up and sent to camps..... but it would be only a matter of time before Christians would follow. In fact, Christians would have been the ultimate target all along but it is well known by most (devils and humans both) that they don't squawk as loud when misfortune happens to those they disapprove of.

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Exactly. This goes along with the intention of my post that it all starts when nobody is really looking or thinks it doesn't matter. That's why I'm not sure why people want to look the other way and make the statements they do as if it doesn't mean anything to them.

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Youth can be so idealistic. You make it sound like what they went through was a picnic. If it happens, so be it. If I can make a difference and vote I definitely will.

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This comment dear Bro. would offend any veteran that reads it. You really need to think before you type. There are reasons why you still have these freedoms in America!

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I buy my daughter a mint set of these every year... it is on there

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All my mom's brothers served in the military, and I have a great-uncle who is a Vietnam veteran, and they know my thoughts and they respect them because I'm not some "anti-American" nut, I'm just a Amish-Menno Pentecostal who is into nonviolence and a nonresistant lifestyle (for the CHRISTIAN)- the heathens can go and fight, but my battle is on my knees, not with swords or chariots and not with flesh and blood.

Plus, I'm in another nation- the Swiss don't fight in the Spanish army, and the Christian doesn't fight in the army of any earthly nation!

-Bro. Alex

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The loss of freedom started a *long* time ago.

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Wrong Alex, God does care about America!

What do you mean he is not an American God, He loves America, He is not limited to America, He does not belong to America, but He is still American's God. Not all American's claim Him, but many do.

It matters because it is a process of trying to remove God from America. Many of us Christians do not want to see that happen.

And yes it is a big deal. It was a big deal when they took prayer out of schools. Now see where we have gone from that time. Spiraling down in a major way.

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Prayer in schools is a form of godliness without any power... I went to a Catholic school, we prayed and GOD never moved. Maybe Baptists can pray a bit better, but apostolics are in the minority and we DO NOT want religion in the public sphere or else we are outnumbered and the religion will be some false Christian/trinitarianism. Why can't we just worship the LORD with our lives, and not put HIM in a box and let HIM spill over into things. When I was in grammar school (public), I always kept a Bible in my locker, I prayed, I witnessed (sure I was just a wee trinitarian Charismatic/AOGer, but I did the best I could). I didn't need a formalized prayer in my classes- I loved the LORD and it shew forth! Putting GOD in the public sphere is unnecessary because then we are forcing HIM upon those who... believe it or not... do have the right to be atheists and not bothered by the government (that doesn't mean I won't witness to them, but Ceasar shouldn't bother them for their atheism).

-Bro. Alex

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I believe that God cares about America as long as America follows Godly precepts, of which she doesn't. Judgment is coming to this nation! You cannot do what she has done without God judging! God is not mocked....ETC.

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And look where we are today. Could it be that it started because people didn't care back then either?

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Care about what? Some formalized, dead, prayer before a class or a football game?

-Bro. Alex

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You are too young to remember what life was like back then. You might think it was meaningless, but that's where the downhill slide started.

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ahhh the exuberance of youth. I remember it well.


My prayer for the young is that they find wisdom without having to suffer the taskmaster of experience.

And Alex, your liberty to come on AFF and say what ever you like was secured by those of us who stood in that gap and served in the military. By those of us who marched off to war to do what ever it took to secure your freedom.

You get to bluster about what ever nation you belong to by the service and sacrifice of others. Son you need to remember that. more than a million men have died for your right to serve your god as you see fit. Millions more have suffered both physically and mentally in war so you can stand up and bluster about rendering to Caesar but not being part of "America"

You've been unshackled by heathens. You've been given the liberty to lambaste by those who stood on the line and refused to allow someone else to secure their freedom. So say on. Speak of what ever nation you want to belong to. We took the hit for you.

Alex, let me give you a bit of advice. You need to seek some wisdom son, because the day is coming when your going to learn some unpleasant lessons.

I pray your spared. I fear you wont be.

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I don't think God cares anymore about America than he does Finland or Kazakhstan. As a US American I tend to care more about the US than I do Canada (sorry Canadian's... I still like you!) but as a Christian, God cares about people.

If a nation is judged by God, it is because the people are corrupt and evil. As long as there are enough "Lots" in the USA... the sodomites, God-haters and baby murderers get a pass (at least where this life is concerned). When we go away... they are up the creek with no paddle, no boat and no creek.

The unregenerate soul is going to gravitate towards evil. In reality, "In God we Trust" doesn't really mean much. Every German soldier, including the SS, had "Gott Mitt Uns" (God with us) on their belt buckle. But it is a remnder that there is a God.

All the things that have been taken away though... Prayer in School, even dead empty ones left a reminder of the acknowledgment of the creator in the heart of a kid. The ten commandments in the courthouse, even though disobeyed by most, from the judge to the defendant, were a visible reminder that we are all subject to God's law.

The more reference to God is removed, the more evil people feel at liberty to do the wild thing. Whenever a Christmas display showing the savior is put up now, the antichrist spirit is demanding, and receiving equal billing.

about all I can say is:

Luke 21:28 KJVR
(28) And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.

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My thought pattern is not new or something I invented- I am not a "rebel" in that sense (as if I am some 19 year old rebel-punk kid with a lip ring, :lol). Thousands before me have thought the same way throughout the centuries.

-Bro. Alex

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Alex it isnt what you think. its what you say. and the way you say it.


but thats ok. so long as someone is here to point out, your liberty to say it the way you say it, was secured by the heathens who stood on that thin red line for you.

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I'd still say it even if it meant being thrown to the lions! I could go on with this all day- I stopped saying the pledge of allegiance at 10 (and then again at 15, I "backslid" from my non-patriotic stance between the ages of 12-14), I know it was the LORD that I heard 9 years ago, and HE still speaks just as strong today!

-Bro. Alex

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Alex - are you new to the oneness/apostolic faith? There is a difference between standing up for what you believe and being totally offensive - you my dear obviously do not know the difference. You need to read the scripture about not offending your brother.

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Who is God's holy nation?

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Does anyone remember when "In God We Trust" began to appear on our currency? Here's a hint. It wasn't put there by our founding fathers. :)

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People seem to say this phrase with such ease when they aren't in front of the lions.

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I am finishing an honors course at my university on torture... I don't mind so much the thought of being: shot, fed to lions, beheaded (I'd pick that way to go over the rest) or a couple other forms of dying. I think I would be good at dissociating, and I have a few morbid tendencies.

-Bro. Alex

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[[[strums on the guitar]]] "Well, who is Israel but we..."

Answer: The church is GOD's holy nation, royal priesthood and peculiar people.

-Bro. Alex