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COOPER 04-03-2007 01:41 PM

Do you think Two Church services a month is enough?
 
Do you think Two services a Month would suffice?

Michlow 04-03-2007 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by COOPER (Post 62822)
Do you think Two services a Month would suffice?

Yes. That is about how often I go to church, so I give that amount a hearty two-thumbs up :thumbsup :thumbsup

:D

Steve Epley 04-03-2007 01:44 PM

I doubt if two services a week is enough. Maybe I just need more church? I am in at least bare minimum of 4 services of week.

Blubayou 04-03-2007 01:45 PM

When we do not go to church for some reason, I miss being there. We missed about a week and a half of services just a short while ago, and it felt so good to be back at church.

COOPER 04-03-2007 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Michlow (Post 62827)
Yes. That is about how often I go to church, so I give that amount a hearty two-thumbs up :thumbsup :thumbsup

:D

Church has turned into a very busy place that requires and demands too much time.

Pastors want to keep you saved by keeping you to busy to think.:nah

originalsecretplace 04-03-2007 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by COOPER (Post 62822)
Do you think Two services a Month would suffice?

In what way?

Actaeon 04-03-2007 01:48 PM

Once a year would be nice... on a Tues night from 7 to 7:15. Then the rest of the year they could rent out the building to people that thought they needed church 3 or 4 times a week -- you know - to Christians.

Michlow 04-03-2007 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by COOPER (Post 62836)
Church has turned into a very busy place that requires and demands too much time.

Pastors want to keep you saved by keeping you to busy to think.:nah

To be honest, if I enjoyed church, I probably would want to go more often. But I see it more as a duty or a chore than any real enjoyment. I can't stand to see the focus on programs and fund-raisers and all that junk. I am just not interested in that. Call me selfish if you want (you would certainly not be the first).

Michlow 04-03-2007 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Actaeon (Post 62847)
Once a year would be nice... on a Tues night from 7 to 7:15. Then the rest of the year they could rent out the building to people that thought they needed church 3 or 4 times a week -- you know - Christians.

Are you saying that one cannot be a Christian and only go to church twice a month?

Actaeon 04-03-2007 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Michlow (Post 62852)
Are you saying that one cannot be a Christian and only go to church twice a month?

yep

Steve Epley 04-03-2007 01:49 PM

I am glad I have always loved church and it has never been a burden to go. My schedule-life-habits revolve around church and not me. Always has always will. It is MY CHIEF joy.

Newman 04-03-2007 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by COOPER (Post 62822)
Do you think Two services a Month would suffice?

Cooper- Do you really believe that 2 services a month can innoculate your children against the influence of our multimedia society and humanist thinking schools? REALLY??? :nah

Steve Epley 04-03-2007 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Newman (Post 62856)
Cooper- Do you really believe that 2 services a month can innoculate your children against the influence of our multimedia society and humanist thinking schools? REALLY??? :nah

Could two services a day innoculate his children from the influence of him???:friend :friend :friend Just funning or was I?? I plead the 5th.:aaa

Michlow 04-03-2007 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Actaeon (Post 62854)
yep

Well at least you are honest about it ;)

I am pretty sure that even if my church attendance didn't disqualify me in your eyes, there would be many other things, such as my TV habits or my cut hair. But I still love ya anyway.

Ron 04-03-2007 01:51 PM

Even the Devil is more faithful to Church!
He is the first one there, and the last to leave.
He never misses a service.:winkgrin

Steve Epley 04-03-2007 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Michlow (Post 62863)
Well at least you are honest about it ;)

I am pretty sure that even if my church attendance didn't disqualify me in your eyes, there would be many other things, such as my TV habits or my cut hair. But I still love ya anyway.

Maybe if you was in church more these other things wouldn't bother you as bad? Just a thought.

Hoovie 04-03-2007 01:53 PM

Coop, I really think it greatly depends on what level of commitment and devotion the family has at home. If there is none at all then it matters little how often they attend.

Actaeon 04-03-2007 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Michlow (Post 62863)
Well at least you are honest about it ;)

I am pretty sure that even if my church attendance didn't disqualify me in your eyes, there would be many other things, such as my TV habits or my cut hair. But I still love ya anyway.

Well in that case...forget my former remarks.... :friend

Michlow 04-03-2007 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 62868)
Maybe if you was in church more these other things wouldn't bother you as bad? Just a thought.

Those things don't bother ME, but they seem to both some of the more conservative.

Just out of curiousity, in your book, why should I go to church anyway, since God doesn't hear my prayers? :)

Coonskinner 04-03-2007 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 62861)
Could two services a day innoculate his children from the influence of him???:friend :friend :friend Just funning or was I?? I plead the 5th.:aaa

ROFL!!!!!

Although, really it is more sad than funny.

God help them.

Chan 04-03-2007 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by COOPER (Post 62822)
Do you think Two services a Month would suffice?

What else is being done the rest of the time to equip the saints to do the work of serving God?

COOPER 04-03-2007 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Michlow (Post 62849)
To be honest, if I enjoyed church, I probably would want to go more often. But I see it more as a duty or a chore than any real enjoyment. I can't stand to see the focus on programs and fund-raisers and all that junk. I am just not interested in that. Call me selfish if you want (you would certainly not be the first).

:hmmm

That yoke is not easy and the burnen is heavy.

COOPER 04-03-2007 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Michlow (Post 62852)
Are you saying that one cannot be a Christian and only go to church twice a month?

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Originally Posted by Actaeon (Post 62854)
yep

:smack Careful, God sees the heart.

Michlow 04-03-2007 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Chan (Post 62929)
What else is being done the rest of the time to equip the saints to do the work of serving God?

And once the saints are equipped? I mean, honestly, how long does the spoon-feeding needs to go on? Then need to be trained and then released to work. Just my opinion of course, and such worth very little.

COOPER 04-03-2007 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Coonskinner (Post 62895)
ROFL!!!!!

Although, really it is more sad than funny.

God help them.

Coon pebbles are falling from the tree top again.

COOPER 04-03-2007 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Newman (Post 62856)
Cooper- Do you really believe that 2 services a month can inoculate your children against the influence of our multimedia society and humanist thinking schools? REALLY??? :nah

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 62861)
Could two services a day inoculate his children from the influence of him???:friend :friend :friend Just funning or was I?? I plead the 5th.:aaa

But the statistics are Too many Holiness or UPC children go astray at driving age anyway.

I guess all of the Bible quiz teams, youth camps, Three days a week at church really is the answer.

Straightline 04-03-2007 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by COOPER (Post 62822)
Do you think Two services a Month would suffice?


Most new converts beg for more services than are scheduled. Who moved?

"...And so much the more as you see the day approaching.."

Do you see that day approaching?

Consistant contact with The Ruler will draw a
Straightline

Michlow 04-03-2007 02:25 PM

Well Coop....I guess you and I are the only two that think its OK. I guess we are gonna have to start our own Church. We can be known as the twice-a-month'ers.

Can I be Pastor? It will fit my new roll as an Apostolic Feminist. Pretty Please??? :toofunny

COOPER 04-03-2007 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Michlow (Post 62970)
And once the saints are equipped? I mean, honestly, how long does the spoon-feeding needs to go on? Then need to be trained and then released to work. Just my opinion of course, and such worth very little.

Exactly, as much preaching and teaching I have heard in 17 years how much does someone need?

17 years, 52 weeks a year, 3 times a week, 1-1/2 hour a lesson equals: 3,978 hours of learing.

Michlow 04-03-2007 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by COOPER (Post 63009)
Exactly, as much preaching and teaching I have heard in 17 years how much does someone need?

17 years, 52 weeks a year, 3 times a week, 1-1/2 hour a lesson equals: 3,978 hours of learing.

Keep in mind that you were only allowed to listen, not to ask questions or participate. That's not learning, that memorizing. Scripture is one thing. But the Pastor's opinion is another. :nah

Steve Epley 04-03-2007 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Michlow (Post 62875)
Those things don't bother ME, but they seem to both some of the more conservative.

Just out of curiousity, in your book, why should I go to church anyway, since God doesn't hear my prayers? :)

Ever hear of preaching and conviction????????????????? And help-strength-fellowship?????????????
Nearly all serial killers were and are loners. Just a thought.

Steve Epley 04-03-2007 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by COOPER (Post 63009)
Exactly, as much preaching and teaching I have heard in 17 years how much does someone need?

17 years, 52 weeks a year, 3 times a week, 1-1/2 hour a lesson equals: 3,978 hours of learing.

There is a difference between teaching and learning they are not the same.
Some learn faster other slower much slower and some sad to say never learn.

Michlow 04-03-2007 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 63023)
Ever hear of preaching and conviction????????????????? And help-strength-fellowship?????????????
Nearly all serial killers were and are loners. Just a thought.

Oh Bro. E that cracked me up! :toofunny

I appreciate your concern, but I don't think I am a danger to myself or others ;)

Steve Epley 04-03-2007 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Michlow (Post 63029)
Oh Bro. E that cracked me up! :toofunny

I appreciate your concern, but I don't think I am a danger to myself or others ;)

Last famous words of Ted Bundy................................:tiphat

Chan 04-03-2007 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Michlow (Post 62970)
And once the saints are equipped? I mean, honestly, how long does the spoon-feeding needs to go on? Then need to be trained and then released to work. Just my opinion of course, and such worth very little.

What kind of vile, wicked, evil thing is in your heart that you would DARE call the purpose of the "five-fold ministry" (to equip the saints to do the work of serving God) "spoon-feeding"? You're saying that GOD'S PURPOSE for apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors, and teachers (or, perhaps more correctly, pastor-teachers) is spoon-feeding!

The problem, more often than not, is that the saints don't want to be equipped, they want to sit on their blessed assurance and be spoon-fed. They want to be blessed, made to feel good about themselves, to be ministered to.

Some saints take longer to equip than others (usually because of the saints themselves). As for releasing them, they're to be released when God says to release them (an example is when the Holy Ghost told certain prophets and teachers in Antioch to send Paul and Barnabas on what we call Paul's first missionary journey).

Chan 04-03-2007 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by COOPER (Post 63009)
Exactly, as much preaching and teaching I have heard in 17 years how much does someone need?

17 years, 52 weeks a year, 3 times a week, 1-1/2 hour a lesson equals: 3,978 hours of learing.

And what are you DOING with all that you have been taught?

Michlow 04-03-2007 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Chan (Post 63037)
What kind of vile, wicked, evil thing is in your heart that you would DARE call the purpose of the "five-fold ministry" (to equip the saints to do the work of serving God) "spoon-feeding"? You're saying that GOD'S PURPOSE for apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors, and teachers (or, perhaps more correctly, pastor-teachers) is spoon-feeding!

The problem, more often than not, is that the saints don't want to be equipped, they want to sit on their blessed assurance and be spoon-fed. They want to be blessed, made to feel good about themselves, to be ministered to.

Some saints take longer to equip than others (usually because of the saints themselves). As for releasing them, they're to be released when God says to release them (an example is when the Holy Ghost told certain prophets and teachers in Antioch to send Paul and Barnabas on what we call Paul's first missionary journey).

Oh Chan, you are so easy to get riled up, and for once I wasn't even trying!

yes, I do think there is a point where what should be "equipping" turns into spoon-feeding. Call me wicked or vile or what have you. (Or course I am sure you already think I am all that just for being a woman who dares to speak her mind...)

I really could care less about what others do. But perhaps I feel that I have been adequately equipped? That is if you think women are even smart enough to understand the Bible, or spiritual enough to have a relationship with God.

Oh well, at least you are predictable.

Chan 04-03-2007 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Michlow (Post 63044)
Oh Chan, you are so easy to get riled up, and for once I wasn't even trying!

yes, I do think there is a point where what should be "equipping" turns into spoon-feeding. Call me wicked or vile or what have you. (Or course I am sure you already think I am all that just for being a woman who dares to speak her mind...)

I really could care less about what others do. But perhaps I feel that I have been adequately equipped? That is if you think women are even smart enough to understand the Bible, or spiritual enough to have a relationship with God.

Oh well, at least you are predictable.

If you think you've been equipped, then what are you doing about it?

My strong objection was to your equating the BIBLICAL function of equipping the saints with spoon-feeding.

Steve Epley 04-03-2007 02:58 PM

I am glad I have noi lost my first love for God-church-the man of God-Bible-fellowship. He is my dwellingplace no where I occationally visit.

COOPER 04-03-2007 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Michlow (Post 63012)
Keep in mind that you were only allowed to listen, not to ask questions or participate. That's not learning, that memorizing. Scripture is one thing. But the Pastor's opinion is another. :nah

:toofunny


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