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Apostolic or Not?
Understanding the rules between these forums better now.
If it is YOUR opinion that someone is teaching false doctrine then you can talk about them and it is not preacher bashing. It has always been my understanding that K Phillips is Apostolic, however it seems maybe he is not. |
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Not at all.
I have much respect for him. However, I do not understand how other Apostolic's can throw him down. |
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at about 28 seconds he says "you're saved when you do all three" (repentance, baptism in Jesus name, infilling of the HG)
sounds Apostolic to me. |
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NO ONE can deny that he still preaches Acts 2:38 as the "plan of salvation"
He is a 3-stepper, by his own admission. He's never changed that about him. Claims to have baptized over 18,000 people in Jesus name (woner if anyone else can make that claim...or even get close to that number) but alas, he let go of some outward standards...that's where the "labels" start being applied or taken off of KP. |
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The Apostolic movement was not based on "holiness standards" or "the mighty God in Christ" (the revelation of the mighty God in Christ came later)
we became a movement when we embraced and preached Jesus name baptism... the schisms came later.... |
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The best definition of Apostolic would be as the Apostle's taught. That includes not only Peter's response on the day of Pentecost, but Paul's teaching on holiness and right living as well. The Bible is not multiple choice, pick what I like and exclude the rest if I don't feel it relevant to my "culture". |
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those red letters remind me of someone....
except his red letters are bolded and always centered. |
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IMO Phillips could come right back into the UPC and not have to change much at all...
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It concerns me when ministers talk bad about others ministers. It is as though they are exempt. Just this week brothers have voiced their concern over this issue, yet they are the very ones discrediting ministers. |
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I am learning that. God would not be pleased. |
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i wish ministers wouldn't do this to one of their own. sad. |
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Where did this label "Apostolic" come from?
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That's why many people use Peter's teaching about modest apparel to ONLY preach against ear rings and anything other than a wedding ring, but totally ignore the modest apparel and braided hair part! Oh, yeah, and it's ok for a woman to pin a broach to her dress, but not her ears. That's why many folks use Deuteronomy 22 to preach against a woman wearing pants, but have no issue when she puts her husband's suit coat on in church when it's a bit chilly! |
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There does seem to be a double standard at times - - I have noticed that even here.
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People are reading more into what you wrote than what you actually said. I'm sure KP would agree with all of your statements above. I know I do. :santaclaus |
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The video clip sounds like he is still preaching "the truth" as they see it. His wife still holds to those traditions as she always has. |
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Is this the same church that J.Suber went to?
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What set us apart to start with from the trinitarian world? baptism........ then came the full revelation of who HE is.... (I did not mean to call this a schism, my apologies, wrong word used) |
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But the apostles had some harsh things to say about false teachers. I don't know enough about him to say one way or another. |
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More to you're liking? Elder? |
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:christmasjig |
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The Same One who gave the wisdom and authority to the leadership of the Church 2,000 years ago still does it today dear Brother. How did they know back then? The Spirit and the Word. |
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Not tradition. |
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Sarcasm is still a put down. Not to pick on this post, but there's always something like this in every single thread. A wise guy poster, that throws little jabs in to demean another brother. Then when the barbs get thrown back, we are appalled. Okay, not in the fighting mood today. In the loving mood. I know, this should be our permanent mood. You have to admit though, sometimes on hear people make you want to put the gloves on. In an intellectual way of course! :christmoose |
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However the Church having traditions is not wrong per se, Brother. If the world is used to seeing a certain look as being 'holy' or 'Christian' why should that be opposed? What is wrong with Christians looking Christ-like, modest and moderate? |
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AND "preachers" obsessed over everything from Christmas trees to Easter eggs. And "preachers" preaching against homosexuality while committing adultery. Couldn't we play this game all night? It does not change the Word, or sound doctrine. |
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