Are you sure you're saved?
 

Someone recently commented about people who think they are saved, but aren't. Interesting concept! I suppose nearly every OP here thinks they are saved. And most everyone, I suppose, is pretty sure they're not in that boat with people who think they are but aren't. (You following this? ;)) I think it would be interesting to find out how many of you guys are absolutely 100% sure that you're saved.

Before you answer, consider the implications. First, you must be 100% sure that the source of your chosen method of being saved is correct. For you guys, that's the Bible, of course. You must be 100% sure that the Bible is God's word (at least the parts that tell you how to be saved). And that it has the correct method of salvation spelled out.

Further, you must be 100% sure that you understand it correctly. If some people disagree with your interpretation in a significant way, you're right and they are wrong. Obviously. And if those other guys are wrong, and they check "100% sure", well, that's their problem! :winkgrin

Then, of course, you must know beyond a shadow of doubt that you have followed its instructions well enough to be saved.

And that you haven't messed up bad enough that you have lost your salvation (as of now).

Speaking of which, let's just consider the present moment. As of right now, if you died, are you sure you'll make it to Heaven? (I might later ask you if you are 100% sure you will never lose your salvation, never ever ever! ;))

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Three votes! Whoohoo!

And a bunch of 'views'! Come on, vote, you guys!

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I wonder how the vote would go on, say, a Trinny forum. :hmmm

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Okay, okay, I voted. I voted Other (please explain). Now..I will explain.

I hope I will be saved. I cannot say with certainty that I am saved for this reason: I cannot judge whether or not a person is saved. That includes myself.

Satisfied?

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Thanks!

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How can we have chosen method of being saved?

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In the poll? Don't need to. The method doesn't matter -- just how sure you are that you know the correct one! :santathumb

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80 views, 6 votes. Ya know, one might assume that a non-vote is the equivalent of "No idea! Never really thought of it that way, and I can't start now!".

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Well Timmy, I'm more saved then you, that gives me much comfort .....;)

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I like this. Yes, I'm 100% sure I'm saved. Yes, I'm 100% sure I understand the Bible correct. Yes, I'm 100% sure a person can backslide and lose everything including their salvation, and God and end up in hell.

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Timmy, when you count the votes remember I voted 100% sure, but your wording is misleading for me. I'm 100% sure I'm saved unless I backslide which would mean I would be 100% lost and hear the word depart form me.

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Hey, everybody can say that! :toofunny

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The long-winded explanation pointed out that this applies to right now, whether or not you might lose your salvation later. ;)

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Ya, something like that. Noted that your 98, 99, and 100% are each a different category! Some of us cannot divvy up our certainty-sensitivity to that degree.

And some of us don't trust the results of any online poll, anywhere. That I am 100% certain about. Admittedly, it's still entertaining to witness the more eager, certain people.

"Faith that is seen is not faith." I hope I only need to be certain enough to act upon what I'm supposed to do, such as to pull out a sword and slaughter Isaac upon God's command, even if I'm shaking a bit up to the last minute. Any more certainty than that has to come from God, not me.

SOS
:usa

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I'm 100% saved as long as Christ is 100% a savior!!!

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:dogpat

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Sure, but most folks should have at least some idea of their level of certainty. But yeah, might be hard to put a number on it.

Yep!

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I'm 100 percent sure I'm saved
but
I doubt if any of you guys are.

I go by the UPC Manual, the tradition of the elders, and the KJV in that order.

My favorite Scripture passage is:

We are God's chosen few.
All others will be damned.
There is no place in Heaven for you.
We can't have Heaven crammed.




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ROFL!

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OK, 100 percenters (eight, so far), a question for you: what if you're wrong???

:toofunny

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I was once saved.

The problem is, no one knocked me in the head at that time which would have guaranteed my heavenly trip.

But, since no one knocked me in the head within five or ten minutes after I was saved, that means I am going to have to walk in the light until He comes. Walking in the light means that His blood will continue to do what it started doing when no one knocked me in the head...when I was first saved.

If I fail to walk in the light, darkness will overtake me and His blood will no longer cleanse me from sin and I will no longer have fellowship with him.

"...and the blood of Jesus His son, cleanseth us from all sin."

Anyone want to adopt the "knock 'em in the head after they get saved," doctrine? :D

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Had a preacher friend that always carried a hammer with him(so he told everybody). He said the only way to get there was just as you said. Send them on their way before something happened to them. We always joked where is the hammer. :jolly

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I don't mean to be rude, but one might as well be a Muslim with the kind of thinking that they aren't sure or don't know. Do you have faith? In Jesus? I am confidant in my Lord to keep me to the very end, saved and sanctified.

Act 23:1 And looking intently at the council, Paul said, "Brothers, I have lived my life before God in all good conscience up to this day."

2Th 3:3 But the Lord is faithful, who shall establish you, and keep you from evil.

Jud 1:24 Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy

Why even reach out to lost souls if we don't know they will be saved? Are we just hoping we will be saved or do we have a great Hope we ARE saved. Salvation is not a lottery

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I remain confident as long as I remain in Him.

"If our hearts condemn us not, we have confidence..."

I don't believe in the eternal security doctrine. I have no confidence in anyone's salvation nor that of my own if I do not keep his commandments and daily walk in the light.

I know of no scripture that gurantees me or anyone salvation without walking in the light and keeping His commandments.

Furthermore, Jesus said that "He that ENDURETH to the END, the same shall be (future tense) saved. The fear of God is an important element in being saved in the end, which notion is easily preempted by the doctrine of perverted grace.

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enduring til the end has nothing to do with salvation but with the tribulation spoken of in matt 24. Paul clearly taught the saints they were saved because of the gospel.

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:lol:

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Since I didn't say anything about Once saved always saved there isn't anything here for me to reply to

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...I am not ashamed...I know whom I have believed and am pursuaded that He is able...

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I don't know about you.

When I depart this life, I hope I am still asking God for his goodness and 'Mercy'.

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The question is not whether He is able or not...that's a given.

The question is whether or not you and I will continue to walk and seek after Him, keeping His commandments and walking in His light as He leads. Are you and I able?

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No, Timmy's question was Am I 100% sure I'm saved... I know HE is able to keep that which I've committed.

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I know I'm saved
and I'm so glad about it.

I found the joy my Spirit craved

It is so real
that I can never doubt it

Oh thank the Lord I know I'm saved

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I know not why God’s wondrous grace
To me He hath made known,
Nor why, unworthy, Christ in love
Redeemed me for His own.


But I know Whom I have believed,
And am persuaded that He is able
To keep that which I’ve committed
Unto Him against that day.


I know not how this saving faith
To me He did impart,
Nor how believing in His Word
Wrought peace within my heart.


But I know Whom I have believed,
And am persuaded that He is able
To keep that which I’ve committed
Unto Him against that day.


I know not how the Spirit moves,
Convincing us of sin,
Revealing Jesus through the Word,
Creating faith in Him.


But I know Whom I have believed,
And am persuaded that He is able
To keep that which I’ve committed
Unto Him against that day.


I know not what of good or ill
May be reserved for me,
Of weary ways or golden days,
Before His face I see.


But I know Whom I have believed,
And am persuaded that He is able
To keep that which I’ve committed
Unto Him against that day.


I know not when my Lord may come,
At night or noonday fair,
Nor if I walk the vale with Him,
Or meet Him in the air.


But I know Whom I have believed,
And am persuaded that He is able
To keep that which I’ve committed
Unto Him against that day.

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We used to sing that in the Baptist Church.

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How does that song go...something like "I have decided to hold out till the end. Jesus is with me, on Him I can depend...."

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This is the foggy memory of a song I probably haven't heard in half a century.

I think it had some words like

When I first found Jesus something o'er me stole
Like lightening it went through me and glory filled my soul
Salvation made me happy and took my cares away
And when I meet old satan, to him I always say:

I am determined to hold out 'till the end
Jesus is with me, on Him I can depend
And I know I have salvation for I feel it in my soul
I am determined to hold out 'till the end.

One verse says something like
Satan sure was angry, said he'd soon be back
Just let his feet grow weary or narrow grow the track
But I'm so full of glory, my Lord I always find
And I say to old satan, old man get thee behind

I think that was a couple of verses and a chorus but it's been a long time since I've sung that as a congregational song. We sang that at Bethel Tabernacle UPC in Racine, Wisconsin when I was going there in late 1955 and for 8 months or so in 1956 until I left for St. Paul, MN to go to Bible School.

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I just Googled that song and found these lyrics:

I Am Determined To Hold Out
C.S. and T.P. Hamilton

vs.1)
When I first found Jesus something o'er me stole, like lightning it went thro' me, and glory filled my soul; salvation made me happy, and took my fears away, and when I meet old Satan to him I always say:

Chorus)
I am determined to hold out to the end, Jesus is with me, on Him I can depend, and I know I have salvation for I feel it in my soul, I am determined to hold out to the end.

Vs. 2)
Satan, he was angry, said he'll soon be back, just let the path get narrow, and he will lose the track; but I'm so full of glory, my Lord I always find, and I just say to Satan, "Old man, get thee behind."

Vs. 3)
This old-time religion makes me sometime shout, I don't have time to gossip nor any time to pout; They say that I'm too noisy, but when these blessings flow, I shout, O hallelujah, I want the world to know.

Vs. 4)
When I hear the trumpet sounding in the sky, and see the mountains trembling, to heaven I will fly; For Jesus will be calling, there'll be no time to mend, with joy I'll go up singing, "I've held out to the end."

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11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
12 He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.
13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.
i John 5:11-14 KJV

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Awesome. Thanks Bro

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No Muslim believes they are saved. They never know if they will be good enough in Allah's eyes to make it. That is sad.